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Yanks_Todd 06-10-2013 10:40 AM

Does Snowden seem Lee Harvey Oswald-ish?
 
The more I read about Snowden (as currently reported), the more he seems Lee Harvey Oswald-ish. Standoffish with the neighbors, unremarkable in many way, ex-cia but not a standout, ex-military for a short time and while he takes issue with this country he seeks asylum in a country with a more questionable track record.

I am not sure how I feel about what he did yet to be honest, however it will be interesting to see how this plays out and what turns out to be true or not.

Rochard 06-10-2013 10:50 AM

This article says it all...

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The Guardian said Snowden is so worried about surveillance that he pads his hotel room door with pillows to prevent eavesdropping and drapes a hood over his head and laptop to avoid password detection by hidden cameras.
He's a fucking whack job.

purecane 06-10-2013 10:53 AM

he will be dead before he hits a courtroom boys.

dyna mo 06-10-2013 10:55 AM

here are 2 good articles that shed some light on the sort of type working for these top secret private intelligence agencies contracted by the us government

http://www.salon.com/2013/06/10/digi...personal_data/

http://blogs.wsj.com/corporate-intel...ret-workforce/


he seems like the typical employee there.

Bman 06-10-2013 10:57 AM

My first instinct is that their is no way to record all of that info
they would have the recordings from the boston bombing suspects then...:2 cents:

Manfap 06-10-2013 11:01 AM

chinas probably one of the safest places for him to be no?

_Richard_ 06-10-2013 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bman (Post 19663412)
My first instinct is that their is no way to record all of that info
they would have the recordings from the boston bombing suspects then...:2 cents:

hmmm

8char

dyna mo 06-10-2013 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 19663416)
chinas probably one of the safest places for him to be no?

it's odd, i was reading that hong kong does have an extradition treaty with us, excluding some political reasons. i was surprised.

JFK 06-10-2013 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by purecane73 (Post 19663406)
he will be dead before he hits a courtroom boys.

Yup, that's the only thing Oswaldish about him:winkwink:

dyna mo 06-10-2013 11:08 AM

isn't the wikileaks whistle blower being tried as of recently? irony.

PR_Glen 06-10-2013 11:17 AM

did they kill assange? no? why? Oh right, he's a public figure and it would only make them look bad.. Same reason they don't go after that conpiracy clown in texas..

if there's nothing to be gained and everyone expects it they don't do it. You guys watch far too many movies...

winter_ 06-10-2013 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 19663416)
chinas probably one of the safest places for him to be no?

i would say so.

china is watching this, there is still bad feeling between the two. you have two countries now, superpowers, and a man in the middle who is clearly out for himself. now it is over to the media how much they think it is appropriate to sensationalise this story and make money.

nowadays i look at headlines though and i ask myself how much of it is just spin. i think it could also be safe to say that while i presume this is true, it could be just as i said, spin. :Oh crap

Rochard 06-10-2013 11:30 AM

I watched the video on the article I posted above... He said that "anyone with his level of clearance can tap any phone or any email". Yeah, but to do so without a court order or a warrant is completely illegal.

Yanks_Todd 06-10-2013 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19663419)
it's odd, i was reading that hong kong does have an extradition treaty with us, excluding some political reasons. i was surprised.

They do, however I think it will be China's call, which from their standpoint why wouldn't they agree to give this guy room and board in exchange for any info they can give him.

_Richard_ 06-10-2013 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by winter_ (Post 19663454)
i would say so.

china is watching this, there is still bad feeling between the two. you have two countries now, superpowers, and a man in the middle who is clearly out for himself. now it is over to the media how much they think it is appropriate to sensationalise this story and make money.

nowadays i look at headlines though and i ask myself how much of it is just spin. i think it could also be safe to say that while i presume this is true, it could be just as i said, spin. :Oh crap

:2 cents::2 cents:

_Richard_ 06-10-2013 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19663461)
I watched the video on the article I posted above... He said that "anyone with his level of clearance can tap any phone or any email". Yeah, but to do so without a court order or a warrant is completely illegal.

you actually think this or are you being factitious?

dyna mo 06-10-2013 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Yanks_Todd (Post 19663462)
They do, however I think it will be China's call, which from their standpoint why wouldn't they agree to give this guy room and board in exchange for any info they can give him.

which to me reveals the bigger issue here. we have privatized intel companies, like booz, gathering data that they then provide, in essence, sell to, to the government.

that's truly insane.

Yanks_Todd 06-10-2013 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19663473)
which to me reveals the bigger issue here. we have privatized intel companies, like booz, gathering data that they then provide, in essence, sell to, to the government.

that's truly insane.

I totally agree with you there.

bronco67 06-10-2013 12:52 PM

He was sworn to protect government secrets and he broke the oath. You don't get to be a crusader because you disagree with the politics. There has to be some kind of mental disorder for this type of character.

JFK 06-10-2013 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19663469)
you actually think this or are you being factitious?

I wonder? :1orglaugh

Bman 06-10-2013 01:33 PM

phone companies are incompetent do you honestly think they US gov can run a program like this?
Anybody worked for the gov or ever use a US government service?

dyna mo 06-10-2013 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bman (Post 19663632)
phone companies are incompetent do you honestly think they US gov can run a program like this?
Anybody worked for the gov or ever use a US government service?


another reason for shutting the program down!

Mutt 06-10-2013 01:49 PM

damned if you do damned if you don't.

everybody cries about government spending - now people want them to do all their high tech spy research and development in house?

globofun 06-10-2013 02:12 PM

http://jamespattonfuneraldirectors.f...amespatton.jpg

Lee still looks good! :thumbsup

eroticfem 06-10-2013 02:23 PM

I think he did the right thing, no goverment should spy on its residents!

Joshua G 06-10-2013 02:25 PM

the murder thingy - where JFK's head exploded - kinda puts oswald in a different class then snowden.

books that detail oswald show we was a loony tunes on par with school shooters. snowden's spin sounds more sensible & perhaps patriotic, depending on your perspective.

Relentless 06-10-2013 03:14 PM

Rank and file CIA people tend not to be the most socially interconnected sorts...


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