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mikesouth 06-14-2013 01:14 PM

NEW HIV plus just reported
 
In fairness XBiz broke it...but I will get to the bottom of it ;)

No info on who it is

All they are saying is that he tested positive, he/she worked condom only and they dont think he/she got it on set

Now guess who released that info? if you guessed APHSS “We wont know anyones status” you guessed right.

I will follow up on this.

_Richard_ 06-14-2013 01:15 PM

that's just peachy

Socks 06-14-2013 01:16 PM

Gentlemen, plug your anuses.

Hide your hoes.

fitzmulti 06-14-2013 01:19 PM

The page via XBIZ:
http://www.xbiz.com/news/163936

Grapesoda 06-14-2013 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19670808)
In fairness XBiz broke it...but I will get to the bottom of it ;)

No info on who it is

All they are saying is that he tested positive, he/she worked condom only and they dont think he/she got it on set

Now guess who released that info? if you guessed APHSS ?We wont know anyones status? you guessed right.

I will follow up on this.

sounds like the gay side?

mikesouth 06-14-2013 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19670820)
sounds like the gay side?

or a female...I know of no active male performers working exclusively with condoms

so if its female look to a wicked contract girl (this is really really really unlikely)

but also remember the source is APHSS "Not even we will know your status"

The truth will come out though...always does meantime anyoine that knows anything is welcome to back channel me....your anonymity is guaranteed.

PillWealth 06-14-2013 01:37 PM

wow, that sucks.

Socks 06-14-2013 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19670834)
The truth will come out though...always does meantime anyoine that knows anything is welcome to back channel me....your anonymity is guaranteed.

NSA will know.

DWB 06-14-2013 01:48 PM

So someone caught HIV who only worked with condoms, yet they think it was caught off the set where they obviously didn't have sex with condoms? One then needs to ask, why only work with condoms if you're willing to screw off cam without them?

That makes as much sense to me as girls without dicks.

_Richard_ 06-14-2013 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19670898)
So someone caught HIV who only worked with condoms, yet they think it was caught off the set where they obviously didn't have sex with condoms? One then needs to ask, why only work with condoms if you're willing to screw off cam without them?

That makes as much sense to me as girls without dicks.

could very well have been a 'off the hook night' gone very wrong

mikesouth 06-14-2013 01:51 PM

well consider the source so far is APHSS what does THAT tell you?

APHSS says they dont get results. How did they get this one?

How do they know it didn’t happen on set? was it a gay performer?

Where did APHSS get the idea that it didn’t happen on set? What do they base that on?

You probably know most of these answers as well as I do, apart from the fact there’s another HIV positive performer APHSS pulled the rest out of their ass.

srockhard 06-14-2013 01:58 PM

I'm sorry I didn't see this thread when I posted this... https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1112538

mikesouth 06-14-2013 01:58 PM

from the sword

http://thesword.com/exclusive-gay-po...y-measure.html

According to multiple sources, The Sword can confirm that a male gay porn performer has tested positive for HIV. The positive results came back after routine testing for a scheduled shoot with Men.com.

Given that Men.com’s shoots are condom-only, it’s highly unlikely that the performer contracted HIV while on set. Also, the performer is said to have worked “exclusively” in condom-only productions.

When reached for comment, Free Speech Coalition’s Diane Duke confirmed the single case of HIV:

An adult performer has tested positive for HIV. This performer worked exclusively on condom only sets. As a precautionary measure, APHSS is providing retests for the small number of performers with which the infected individual had performed. All retests have come back negative and there is no indication that any transmission—including that of the positive performer—happened on set.

Duke would not confirm or deny where the performer had worked (or even his gender), but The Sword can confirm that multiple models working for Men.com (including one Men.com exclusive) have been contacted by APHSS and have been asked to come in for a retest. So far, no other results have come back positive.

Again, it’s important to reiterate that all of Men.com’s shoots are condom-only, and they have (quite clearly) a testing protocol in place. Meaning, the system worked and caught what it was supposed to catch.

_Richard_ 06-14-2013 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19670905)

How do they know it didn?t happen on set? was it a gay performer?

Where did APHSS get the idea that it didn?t happen on set? What do they base that on?

You probably know most of these answers as well as I do, apart from the fact there?s another HIV positive performer APHSS pulled the rest out of their ass.

so did you know the answers?

Webmaster Advertising 06-14-2013 02:06 PM

So basically, condom only porn DOESNT protect adult performers from contracting HIV.

But surely AB332 being law should have prevented this from happening, I mean, wasn't that the whole reason behind passing this little law? :helpme

Just Alex 06-14-2013 02:08 PM

Will be waiting.

mikesouth 06-14-2013 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webmaster Advertising (Post 19670938)
So basically, condom only porn DOESNT protect adult performers from contracting HIV.

But surely AB332 being law should have prevented this from happening, I mean, wasn't that the whole reason behind passing this little law? :helpme

I like how people in this biz use logic.

he jumped out of an airplane and his parachute failed to open, therefor you dont need a parachute to safely jump out of a plane because it might not open anyway...WTF?

DWB 06-14-2013 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19670900)
could very well have been a 'off the hook night' gone very wrong

Indeed. One minute you're wearing a condom during a Manwin shoot, then four hours and a buzz later you're at a bareback breeding party, face down, ass up, with 30 strangers blowing loads in your ass. It could happen to anyone.

RandyRandy 06-14-2013 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webmaster Advertising (Post 19670938)
So basically, condom only porn DOESNT protect adult performers from contracting HIV.

But surely AB332 being law should have prevented this from happening, I mean, wasn't that the whole reason behind passing this little law? :helpme

Condom only porn doesn't protect you if you don't use a condom off-set as well, everytime. Piriod!

Webmaster Advertising 06-14-2013 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyRandy (Post 19670952)
Condom only porn doesn't protect you if you don't use a condom off-set as well, everytime. Piriod!

Agreed but the whole 'merit' behind getting that law passed was because it would protect adult performers from contracting HIV.

THAT is why the law got passed... Allegedly... Nothing to do with stifling the industry in Cali...

mikesouth 06-14-2013 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webmaster Advertising (Post 19670960)
Agreed but the whole 'merit' behind getting that law passed was because it would protect adult performers from contracting HIV.

THAT is why the law got passed... Allegedly... Nothing to do with stifling the industry in Cali...

And the flip is that they will say the reason he DIDNT infect anyone else is because men.com is condom only....Its a moot argument and a retarded one to try and put forth to discredit ab332

Webmaster Advertising 06-14-2013 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19670995)
And the flip is that they will say the reason he DIDNT infect anyone else is because men.com is condom only....Its a moot argument and a retarded one to try and put forth to discredit ab332

Not if it can be proven that his infection didn't happen on set.. Which it appears (so far) it is unlikely to have.

Using condoms (or not) on set had nothing to do with this performer being found to be positive, it was the fact he was tested, which the vast majority of the industry has been doing for many, many years.

How exactly did ab332 help protect this performer in this instance?

mikesouth 06-14-2013 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webmaster Advertising (Post 19671008)
Not if it can be proven that his infection didn't happen on set.. Which it appears (so far) it is unlikely to have.

Using condoms (or not) on set had nothing to do with this performer being found to be positive, it was the fact he was tested, which the vast majority of the industry has been doing for many, many years.

How exactly did ab332 help protect this performer in this instance?

Please read my response again....it didnt protect HIM from HIMSELF but it can be argued that it DID protect everyone he worked with

Webmaster Advertising 06-14-2013 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19671025)
Please read my response again....it didnt protect HIM from HIMSELF but it can be argued that it DID protect everyone he worked with

I understand what you are saying.

What *I* am saying is that the law got traction because people who voted on it were under the impression the performers were catching HIV from producing porn... We all know this isn't and hasn't been the case except for what 2 performers in the last... 10 years or so?

DWB 06-14-2013 03:15 PM

So... during a hardcore gay anal sex porn shoot, a condom never broke once? Sounds legit.

But I guess if everyone else tests negative then they can rule that out completely, unless someone has a false negative.

Mike, do you know if the performers (at risk) will do a few rounds of testing, or is it just one?

EddyTheDog 06-14-2013 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webmaster Advertising (Post 19671008)
Not if it can be proven that his infection didn't happen on set.. Which it appears (so far) it is unlikely to have.

Using condoms (or not) on set had nothing to do with this performer being found to be positive, it was the fact he was tested, which the vast majority of the industry has been doing for many, many years.

How exactly did ab332 help protect this performer in this instance?

Condom use is encouraged because it is SAFER not SAFE...

mikesouth 06-14-2013 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19671045)
So... during a hardcore gay anal sex porn shoot, a condom never broke once? Sounds legit.

But I guess if everyone else tests negative then they can rule that out completely, unless someone has a false negative.

Mike, do you know if the performers (at risk) will do a few rounds of testing, or is it just one?

Honestly DWB this was a big deal till it came out it was the gay side...then it died down quickly. I dont know if he has been retested or not...I would presume that the Western Blot confirmed his status prior to them testing his partners, but we are talking about an arm of The FSC so who really knows...

Webmaster Advertising 06-14-2013 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19671111)
Honestly DWB this was a big deal till it came out it was the gay side...then it died down quickly.

Its cause the adult side of the business doesn't really care what happens on the gay side and vice versa... Sad but true...

_Richard_ 06-14-2013 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19671111)
Honestly DWB this was a big deal till it came out it was the gay side...then it died down quickly. I dont know if he has been retested or not...I would presume that the Western Blot confirmed his status prior to them testing his partners, but we are talking about an arm of The FSC so who really knows...

forgive my ignorance here, but doesn't HIV take 6 months to show up?

pornlaw 06-14-2013 04:58 PM

Here's what I find interesting...

from AVN... http://business.avn.com/articles/vid...TE-521362.html

4:25 p.m. update:

AVN received an official comment from Manwin: “Third-party producers creating content for Men.com have been requested to cease all production until further notice. Men.com will wait on the APHSS to confirm when production may resume.”

Manwin has distanced themselves from the director... now he/she is a third party producer... which in legalese means if someone caught HIV on set its not our problem go sue the "third party producer."

Webmaster Advertising 06-14-2013 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19671192)
forgive my ignorance here, but doesn't HIV take 6 months to show up?

Apparently it takes 2-4 weeks...

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...4004422AATmcJx

epitome 06-14-2013 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webmaster Advertising (Post 19671215)

Your first mistake was using Yahoo Answers.

Your second mistake was repeating what it says.

Grapesoda 06-14-2013 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19671111)
Honestly DWB this was a big deal till it came out it was the gay side...then it died down quickly. I dont know if he has been retested or not...I would presume that the Western Blot confirmed his status prior to them testing his partners, but we are talking about an arm of The FSC so who really knows...

uh Mike didn't all the hiv issues come from the gay side?... pretty sure they did. you can say getting fucked in the ass by trannys isn't gay but.... well you know .... just sayin...

mikesouth 06-14-2013 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19671344)
uh Mike didn't all the hiv issues come from the gay side?... pretty sure they did. you can say getting fucked in the ass by trannys isn't gay but.... well you know .... just sayin...

For the most part you are correct but I do believe Darren james always held that he never was a "bottom" but who knows

Due 06-14-2013 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 19671195)
Here's what I find interesting...

from AVN... http://business.avn.com/articles/vid...TE-521362.html

4:25 p.m. update:

AVN received an official comment from Manwin: ?Third-party producers creating content for Men.com have been requested to cease all production until further notice. Men.com will wait on the APHSS to confirm when production may resume.?

Manwin has distanced themselves from the director... now he/she is a third party producer... which in legalese means if someone caught HIV on set its not our problem go sue the "third party producer."

If I was shooting gay porn I would not do that from my main company, would you recommend that? It is very common to use payroll companies or production companies.

Grapesoda 06-14-2013 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19671371)
For the most part you are correct but I do believe Darren james always held that he never was a "bottom" but who knows

only two guys know that for sure :thumbsup:1orglaugh

Trend 06-14-2013 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webmaster Advertising (Post 19670938)
So basically, condom only porn DOESNT protect adult performers from contracting HIV.

But surely AB332 being law should have prevented this from happening, I mean, wasn't that the whole reason behind passing this little law? :helpme


Sometimes it's almost too frustrating to read what's posted here at GFY.

An adult performer has tested positive for HIV. This performer worked exclusively on condom only sets. As a precautionary measure, APHSS is providing retests for the small number of performers with which the infected individual had performed. All retests have come back negative and there is no indication that any transmission?including that of the positive performer?happened on set.

As of this article....

1. We do not know where this performer contracted HIV.

2. We DO know that it did not spread from performer to performer on set.

3. We DO know that testing identified it.


Perhaps this performer contracted HIV from a non industry related partner. Regardless, at this point, this should be viewed as a win / win all the way around.

In the gen pop, according to the CDC there were 47,500 reported new cases of HIV in 2010 and an estimated 1,148,200 persons aged 13 and older were living with HIV infection in the United States, including 207,600 (18.1%) persons whose infections had not been diagnosed.

Source

pr0phet 06-14-2013 10:27 PM

I thought most gay performers had HIV. So this guy is the only one?

Webmaster Advertising 06-14-2013 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19671338)
Your first mistake was using Yahoo Answers.

Your second mistake was repeating what it says.

Maybe the CDC is a better source for the 2-4 week timeframe?

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/basic/

EddyTheDog 06-14-2013 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webmaster Advertising (Post 19671475)
Maybe the CDC is a better source for the 2-4 week timeframe?

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/basic/

Quote:

Most people will develop detectable antibodies that can be detected by the most commonly used tests in the United States within 2 to 8 weeks (the average is 25 days) of their infection. Ninety-seven percent (97%) of persons will develop detectable antibodies in the first 3 months. Even so, there is a small chance that some individuals will take longer to develop detectable antibodies. Therefore, a person should consider a follow-up test more than three months after their last potential exposure to HIV. In extremely rare cases, it can take up to 6 months to develop antibodies to HIV.
You can not be sure for 6 months...

epitome 06-15-2013 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webmaster Advertising (Post 19671475)
Maybe the CDC is a better source for the 2-4 week timeframe?

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/basic/

Your third mistake was not reading the link.

Your fourth mistake was sticking with Yahoo Answers.

DWB 06-15-2013 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19671344)
uh Mike didn't all the hiv issues come from the gay side?... pretty sure they did. you can say getting fucked in the ass by trannys isn't gay but.... well you know .... just sayin...

I think people would be surprised to find out just how many guys secretly are either bi or into shemales and have sex with them regularly, especially guys in the sex industry. I'd wager at least 1/2 of the "straight" guys in the industry fall into this category. And I don't have any problems with that whatsoever, but I don't think people have an idea of just how high risk everyone really is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 19671195)
Here's what I find interesting...

from AVN... http://business.avn.com/articles/vid...TE-521362.html

4:25 p.m. update:

AVN received an official comment from Manwin: ?Third-party producers creating content for Men.com have been requested to cease all production until further notice. Men.com will wait on the APHSS to confirm when production may resume.?

Manwin has distanced themselves from the director... now he/she is a third party producer... which in legalese means if someone caught HIV on set its not our problem go sue the "third party producer."

Rogue gay producers.

jack-exploitedbabysitters 06-15-2013 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19670951)
Indeed. One minute you're wearing a condom during a Manwin shoot, then four hours and a buzz later you're at a bareback breeding party, face down, ass up, with 30 strangers blowing loads in your ass. It could happen to anyone.

hahhahaha

Aidoru 06-16-2013 06:55 PM

HIV is not good.

NemesisEnforcer 06-16-2013 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19671629)
I think people would be surprised to find out just how many guys secretly are either bi or into shemales and have sex with them regularly, especially guys in the sex industry. I'd wager at least 1/2 of the "straight" guys in the industry fall into this category. And I don't have any problems with that whatsoever, but I don't think people have an idea of just how high risk everyone really is.

Actually, that's common knowledge. Like herpes, we don't talk about it.

xxxjay 06-17-2013 06:42 AM

Gay performer, shoot was for men.com...end of story.

Grapesoda 06-17-2013 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 19673956)
Gay performer, shoot was for men.com...end of story.

but we need to be punished for homosexuality Jay

xxxjay 06-17-2013 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19674023)
but we need to be punished for homosexuality Jay

I wasn't even suggesting that.

Anytime ANYONE gets HIV it sucks.

:2 cents:

DWB 06-17-2013 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NemesisEnforcer (Post 19673628)
Actually, that's common knowledge. Like herpes, we don't talk about it.

People think they know, but I don't they really know.

Either way, you know enough to know you're dealing with mostly switch hitters and the fact that everyone is OK with that pretty much says everything about the industry that needs to be said.

nikki99 06-17-2013 10:38 AM

I see more bareback content than ever these days, nobody fucking cares


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