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clickhappy 06-23-2013 04:59 PM

Computertards: is this safe to do?
 
I have mostly 2 pronged outlets and i have 3 computers, is it safe to use this adapter with my computer? Or is it a really bad idea
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/412pIG5PhpL.jpg

I would only use it when im there and when Im now I would take it out.
http://www.amazon.com/Prong-prong-gr.../dp/B000I96AUM

Spunky 06-23-2013 05:11 PM

As long as you use the ground.

MrBottomTooth 06-23-2013 05:13 PM

If you use that screw terminal to ground the adapter then it would be reasonably safe, though certainly not ideal. If you just plug it in as is, you take on the risk of electrical shock, death or fire if something goes wrong with your pc and the case gets electrified.

clickhappy 06-23-2013 05:24 PM

I don't understand what grounding it means

Spunky 06-23-2013 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickhappy (Post 19683642)
I don't understand what grounding it means

If something shorts out in the box you can get shocked if you touch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_(electricity)

signupdamnit 06-23-2013 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickhappy (Post 19683642)
I don't understand what grounding it means

Bottom line: Unless you don't have $200 don't even take a chance. It's a bad idea. Call an electrician. If you don't have $200 then get it and call an electrician. If you absolutely can't get $200 and must do it then go for it but you could get electrocuted, ruin your computer, or even burn down your home. You're taking your chances.

Webmaster Advertising 06-23-2013 05:38 PM

Yeah it's fine, just be sure to stand it in a small bowl of water every couple of days and gentle splash it across the computer tower to cool it, you should have no issues at all :)

woj 06-23-2013 05:39 PM

wtf guys, no one has ever died from getting electrocuted by an ungrounded computer... in the worst case the fuse in the power supply will blow, or the whole power supply will get fried, but chances of anything seriously going wrong are slim to none... :2 cents:

signupdamnit 06-23-2013 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 19683653)
wtf guys, no one has ever died from getting electrocuted by an ungrounded computer... in the worst case the fuse in the power supply will blow, or the whole power supply will get fried, but chances of anything seriously going wrong are slim to none... :2 cents:

There is always a chance though. It's not worth it. Safety features are there for a reason and should not be defeated or bypassed.

Quote:

Computer fire damages an apartment building
August 27, 2003

GLENVIEW ? A personal computer that caught fire Tuesday apparently ignited a blaze that destroyed part of an apartment building in unincorporated Glenview and left 10 people temporarily homeless, authorities said.

A North Maine Fire Protection District firefighter, who was not identified, was treated for heat exhaustion at Lutheran General Hospital in Park Ridge.

The fire began at 12:07 p.m. in a third-floor residence of the six-unit, three-story apartment building at 4141 Williamsburg Ct., Glenview Fire Chief Dan Bonkowski said.

"We saved about 95 percent of the building," he said.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...-fire-glenview

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So, I just finished playing some Napoleon: Total War and decided to check email/Facebook before I went to bed. As I was checking those, my PC suddenly shut down for seemingly no reason... I hit the power button, but it only stayed on for a few seconds. I hit the power button again (probably a stupid thing to do) and the next thing I know my pc is glowing like a signal flare and smoke is rising up from the top exhaust fans! I quickly hit the power switch on the back of my PSU, which killed the glow, but my room was full of smoke and my PC is dead...
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=514092&mpage=1

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I have a 15 month old Gateway notebook computer that caught fire when plugged into the 110v outlet for charging. My 10 year old son was using the notebook at the time, when it caught fire. I heard yelling from him in the family room and at the same time smelt burning electrical. I found him in the corner of the room half filled with smoke. I'm glad I was home! I have no doubt that I would lost my home and the family pets, if no one were home while the computer was charging. Where is Consumer Product Testing? From further internet investigation, I found this is not an isolated occurance! PS; It is a Gateway notebook model# MA2 and its battery was not on the recall list.
http://mythreecents.com/showReview.cgi?id=17670

woj 06-23-2013 05:56 PM

you are probably right, that's why I always shower with a helmet on just in case I slip and crack my skull open... :)

signupdamnit 06-23-2013 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 19683661)
you are probably right, that's why I always shower with a helmet on just in case I slip and crack my skull open... :)

He'd probably be okay, yeah, but even with well grounded power sources I've heard of things like capacitors suddenly exploding and starting fires. It's just not worth it. And then if you have kids or pets it's even worse because say the dog pisses on it or the kid spills a drink,etc.


24/7 Blogging Crew 06-23-2013 06:25 PM

been using those plugs for years no issues don't have a clue this wasn't answered in second post.

Matt 26z 06-23-2013 06:43 PM

I use those all the time and never screw the ground in.

Another option is to use pliers to rip the third prong out of the cord so you don't even need the adapter. I did that to the refrigerator.

clickhappy 06-23-2013 06:43 PM

i went to Frys and got this
http://images.frys.com/art/product/3...48.01.prod.jpg
http://www.frys.com/product/1509948

And I got a surge protector, so I plug this adapter into the wall? then the surge protector into the adapter?

and then the computer into the surge protector?
is this ok?

Spunky 06-23-2013 07:10 PM

The surge protector has to be plugged into a grounded outlet in order to work properly. If you live in a house get a grounding rod and run a cable to your ground.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_70860-28781-70860_0__
https://youtube.com/watch?v=xJ-pwp0PyHg

420 06-23-2013 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickhappy (Post 19683683)
i went to Frys and got this
http://images.frys.com/art/product/3...48.01.prod.jpg
http://www.frys.com/product/1509948

And I got a surge protector, so I plug this adapter into the wall? then the surge protector into the adapter?

and then the computer into the surge protector?
is this ok?

take a screw out of your wall plate and reattach it through the hole in the adapter

iwantchixx 06-23-2013 08:28 PM

So long as house wiring isn't totally fucked, it's "safe" for you. However, if the outlet box is not properly grounded, the ground portion of the plug will do nothing... it'll still be ungrounded.

bronco67 06-23-2013 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickhappy (Post 19683632)
I have mostly 2 pronged outlets and i have 3 computers, is it safe to use this adapter with my computer? Or is it a really bad idea
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/412pIG5PhpL.jpg

I would only use it when im there and when Im now I would take it out.
http://www.amazon.com/Prong-prong-gr.../dp/B000I96AUM


haha who's the tard now?

Barry-xlovecam 06-23-2013 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickhappy (Post 19683642)
I don't understand what grounding it means

In single phase grounded electrical systems there are 3 wires: ~phase, neutral and ground (black, white and bare copper), all of the bare copper connect to a terminal in the breaker box then go out of the building via a cable to a steel grounding rod pounded into the earth.

If there is a short and the power cord of the device is grounded; the electrical current takes the path of least resistance -- to the ground as the earth has less resistance than the human body or the device plugged in. If there is a short in the computer it usually fries. I have heard of many computers fried even when they were on a surge protector (the condom broke...).

If lightning hits your house's electric system the 50,000 volts goes thru to the grounding rod and you don't fry and burn from the resulting electrical fire.

On 120V systems, 3 wire grounded power has been code since the late 1960's.

adulttraffic 06-23-2013 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickhappy (Post 19683632)
I have mostly 2 pronged outlets and i have 3 computers, is it safe to use this adapter with my computer? Or is it a really bad idea
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/412pIG5PhpL.jpg

I would only use it when im there and when Im now I would take it out.
http://www.amazon.com/Prong-prong-gr.../dp/B000I96AUM

Don't listen to all the gfy "computertard's" you dont need to use the ground at all. The best way is for you to connect all this is right out of the shower, preferably on a concrete floor.
With your hands and feet soaking wet plug in everything while making sure water drips into all connections. This will ensure all connections are connected correctly.

clickhappy 06-23-2013 10:02 PM

ok i plugged it in and its fine. on my laptop on it now yay

vdbucks 06-23-2013 11:02 PM

Meh, I've been breaking the ground prong off pc cables for the longest time and have never had an issue. Half the countries I spend time in have no grounding code whatsoever so even using one of those adapters is pointless.

I do however run everything important through a UPS and Voltage Regulator, but I haven't used or worried about the ground prong at all for at least the past 15 years... If I ever settle down and build/buy a house, then I'll worry about proper grounding, but until then... not worried in the slightest.

Google Expert 06-23-2013 11:10 PM

what could go wrong? :1orglaugh

24/7 Blogging Crew 06-23-2013 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Getsu (Post 19683849)
what could go wrong? :1orglaugh

http://www.clearsimpleliving.com/wp-...bles-cords.jpg


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