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mardigras 06-26-2013 02:29 PM

Browser snobs
 
WTF is with webmasters blocking people using a browser other than the one they like?

Yesterday I went to a site that had an unclosable overlay saying that I couldn't use their site unless I got a "modern" browser with links to ones they would accept. I could see the site properly loaded behind it. Other sites will completely redirect you if you are using a browser the site owner personally dislikes. I've had sites block me because they detected I was using Android (in desktop mode).

I can see not optimizing for a browser and letting the surfer know why the site may not function properly and let load what will load, but where is the logic in barring a browser that over half of the people online use? While it may be L337 to hate on IE I certainly can't imagine turning away over half of my potential customers.:eek2

_Richard_ 06-26-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mardigras (Post 19688235)
I've had sites block me because they detected I was using Android (in desktop mode).

normally id agree, but this feature is SO annoying..

'your mobile page is broken'

'no, no it's not'

georgeyw 06-26-2013 02:46 PM

Drives me wild when a page is auto redirected purely because you are using a mobile device. So many adult sites do it, cannot tell you how many sites i've tried browsing on my tablet from gfy and they simply redirect.

mardigras 06-26-2013 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 19688258)
Drives me wild when a page is auto redirected purely because you are using a mobile device. So many adult sites do it, cannot tell you how many sites i've tried browsing on my tablet from gfy and they simply redirect.

What really sucks is when they do that although your browser is in desktop mode, then you click the "view full site" link that they actually put on their own page and it brings up the mobile version again.:Oh crap

acctman 06-26-2013 03:35 PM

crappy web designers. probably couldn't figure out how to get a feature to work on all platforms so they just block the ones that don't work

georgeyw 06-26-2013 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mardigras (Post 19688279)
What really sucks is when they do that although your browser is in desktop mode, then you click the "view full site" link that they actually put on their own page and it brings up the mobile version again.:Oh crap

Yes, that is a pet hate of mine too. Local news site I visit doesn't even give you the choice and you are automatically forced onto their horribly shitty mobile version of their site. :mad:

mardigras 06-26-2013 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 19688370)
Yes, that is a pet hate of mine too. Local news site I visit doesn't even give you the choice and you are automatically forced onto their horribly shitty mobile version of their site. :mad:

I have a local news site that does that too. It wouldn't be so bad if the mobile site had access to all or even most of the site's content, but they don't have access to video nor to all of the articles/sections, and the articles that they do have don't display the comments. Total crap.:disgust

mardigras 06-26-2013 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by acctman (Post 19688323)
crappy web designers. probably couldn't figure out how to get a feature to work on all platforms so they just block the ones that don't work

Yeah, probably true for many, but there are many that are just being browser nazis:upsidedow

It's one thing for "fanboy" or personal sites but I can't fathom doing it on a commercial site.

All1 06-26-2013 04:59 PM

Active X those mother fuckers

Babaganoosh 06-26-2013 08:00 PM

stop using ie 6.;)

mardigras 06-27-2013 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 19688631)
stop using ie 6.;)

LOL... that site blocked all IE.

Babaganoosh 06-27-2013 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mardigras (Post 19688948)
LOL... that site blocked all IE.

Yikes. That's kind of a dick move. :2 cents:

Dankasaur 06-27-2013 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by acctman (Post 19688323)
crappy web designers. probably couldn't figure out how to get a feature to work on all platforms so they just block the ones that don't work

Bingo.

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Originally Posted by mardigras (Post 19688948)
LOL... that site blocked all IE.

I only block IE7 and lower... Nobody should be using a browser older than IE8... Preferably they should be using IE9+

PR_Glen 06-27-2013 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 19688258)
Drives me wild when a page is auto redirected purely because you are using a mobile device. So many adult sites do it, cannot tell you how many sites i've tried browsing on my tablet from gfy and they simply redirect.

because a large % of surfers don't own gigantic iphones and ipads to view desktop domains properly. Why would someone who is interested in sales ever take the chance of a potential customer not being able to use the features on your site?

Yes, peoples mobile devices are getting better on average and this may be outdated in the future, but not yet.

mardigras 06-27-2013 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19689191)
because a large % of surfers don't own gigantic iphones and ipads to view desktop domains properly. Why would someone who is interested in sales ever take the chance of a potential customer not being able to use the features on your site?

So you would turn away all of the potential customers who can use all of the features on your site?

If a site owner wants to have that much control why not narrow the redirects to browsers that actually don't work on the site? I've seen NO this or that browser more often than I see NO this or that browser below version x, then again I'm always using the latest version of whatever browser I'm on.

Dankasaur 06-27-2013 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mardigras (Post 19689223)
So you would turn away all of the potential customers who can use all of the features on your site?

If a site owner wants to have that much control why not narrow the redirects to browsers that actually don't work on the site? I've seen NO this or that browser more often than I see NO this or that browser below version x, then again I'm always using the latest version of whatever browser I'm on.

Because some of us care about furthering the web and using a 12 year old browser, or a browser that likes to render things how it wants and not to the standards, is detrimental to the furthering of the web.

Telling people to upgrade to newer browsers hasn't been very successful, resorting to blocking them has... Can't view the site, what do you do? Upgrade your old system.

mineistaken 06-27-2013 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by acctman (Post 19688323)
crappy web designers. probably couldn't figure out how to get a feature to work on all platforms so they just block the ones that don't work

You mean developers, not designers. And why block it, just give notice that "this site may/will not load correctly with your browser"

mineistaken 06-27-2013 08:25 AM

ps: I believe google analytics or webmaster tools became unavailable to opera browser few months ago. If I remember correctly.

Rochard 06-27-2013 11:59 AM

LOL, I remember back in the day when we would put links up to our favorite browser and say "best viewed in...."

FlowerKid 06-27-2013 12:54 PM

Fuck webdesigners who aren't able to create a design that doesn't work on all used browsers.

defunk 06-27-2013 02:24 PM

I hate when I'm on my ipad looking for trades (or just porn) and I get redirected from the site I want to the mobile site of a less good site.

or have my iphone slam into a badoink ad (no offense if anyone runs that here lol ).

mardigras 06-27-2013 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19689233)
You mean developers, not designers. And why block it, just give notice that "this site may/will not load correctly with your browser"

Exactly.

Why worry how a site looks on their browser if they like it enough to sign up or buy something?

mardigras 06-27-2013 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19689645)
LOL, I remember back in the day when we would put links up to our favorite browser and say "best viewed in...."

Ah a simpler time indeed:upsidedow

mardigras 06-27-2013 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dankasaur (Post 19689229)
Telling people to upgrade to newer browsers hasn't been very successful, resorting to blocking them has... Can't view the site, what do you do? Upgrade your old system.

Or go on to one of the other billion pages that want your business:winkwink:

mardigras 06-27-2013 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FlowerKid (Post 19689733)
Fuck webdesigners who aren't able to create a design that doesn't work on all used browsers.

It's an extremely rare occasion that I actually switch browsers while surfing because the site owner said so.


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