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Sly 07-09-2013 04:43 PM

What do you think of Atlas Shrugged?
 
Please share your thoughts. Thank you.

The Porn Nerd 07-09-2013 04:56 PM

Atlas Shrugged: A work of lesser fiction misunderstood and absolutely misapplied by greedy, selfish Baby Boomers/Republicans looking for moral excuses to do whatever they want to do to whomever they want to do it to (and then blame the others as if it's they're fault).

Ayn Rand: A Godless/asocial/meglomanical Russian hypocrite (Ayn Rand received SS benefits, remember) who's book "The Virtual Of Selfishness" explains every vile disgusting thing you need to know about the wraith whore.

But I'll break it down for y'all: "If everyone took care of themselves there would be no need in this world. Therefore, if you're not taking care of yourself then you're a burden to others and part of the problem. Your exterminaton/extinction would be best for the world." Fuck the handicapped, the disabled, the weak, the old, the poor - some of those things Ayn Rand were herself, BTW - just worry about yourself. So, you know, fuck her/it.

More or less. LOL

Far-L 07-09-2013 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 19710088)
Atlas Shrugged: A work of lesser fiction misunderstood and absolutely misapplied by greedy, selfish Baby Boomers/Republicans looking for moral excuses to do whatever they want to do to whomever they want to do it to (and then blame the others as if it's they're fault).

Ayn Rand: A Godless/asocial/meglomanical Russian hypocrite (Ayne Rand received SS benefits, remember) who's book "The Virtual Of Selfishness" explains every vile disgusting thing you need to know about the wraith whore.

More or less. LOL

I love when you get all collegiate... kind of sexy... even better if you wear the herringbone blazer with the leather elbow patches when you do it... :winkwink::thumbsup

CaptainHowdy 07-09-2013 05:04 PM

A great marketing book ...

MediumPimpin 07-09-2013 05:17 PM

I hated it I just keep waiting for something to happen, for it to tie in, something fuck Christs sake, more wasted time I will never get back.

L-Pink 07-09-2013 05:37 PM

MrPeabody: I enjoy your reviews.

kane 07-09-2013 06:03 PM

I enjoyed the book although there are some parts that are very dry and rough to get through.

It has some good ideas in it, but many of them are oversimplified and don't take many factors into account. In the end it was a good story that could have used a good editor to cut a few hundred pages out of it.

baddog 07-09-2013 06:11 PM

That was the book about Japan's earthquakes and tsunamis, right?

The Porn Nerd 07-09-2013 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 19710096)
I love when you get all collegiate... kind of sexy... even better if you wear the herringbone blazer with the leather elbow patches when you do it... :winkwink::thumbsup

As I've told you in the Private Smoking Room (:rasta) at the local University MSU (Make Shit Up, where I teach Ethics In Purgery) several times before, I only wear the jacket with the leather elbow patches when I masturbate to....


Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19710146)
MrPeabody: I enjoy your reviews.

....L-Pink's GFY posts. :drinkup

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 07-09-2013 06:31 PM

I read Atlas Shrugged, as well as a few other Ayn Rand books (Anthem and Fountainhead) while I was in high school...I enjoyed them, but in the end I shrugged, since I had also been reading books by other writers who had philosophies more compatible with my own (I like to explore out of my comfort zone - it makes life more interesting). :winkwink:

It also helps to understand the psyche of many tea party and libertarian types who have adopted Ayn Rand as some sort of patron saint. :helpme

http://endofthenet.org/wp-content/up...nd-Truth-2.gif

:stoned

ADG

d-null 07-09-2013 07:35 PM

really a must read and food for thought at the very least, makes one think about the whole concept of "selfishness" in an unusual way :2 cents:

Si 07-09-2013 07:38 PM

Who is John Galt?

Captain Kawaii 07-09-2013 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 19710088)
Atlas Shrugged: A work of lesser fiction misunderstood and absolutely misapplied by greedy, selfish Baby Boomers/Republicans looking for moral excuses to do whatever they want to do to whomever they want to do it to (and then blame the others as if it's they're fault).

Ayn Rand: A Godless/asocial/megalomaniac Russian hypocrite (Ayn Rand received SS benefits, remember) who's book "The Virtual Of Selfishness" explains every vile disgusting thing you need to know about the wraith whore.

But I'll break it down for y'all: "If everyone took care of themselves there would be no need in this world. Therefore, if you're not taking care of yourself then you're a burden to others and part of the problem. Your extermination/extinction would be best for the world." Fuck the handicapped, the disabled, the weak, the old, the poor - some of those things Ayn Rand were herself, BTW - just worry about yourself. So, you know, fuck her/it.

More or less. LOL

QFT! :thumbsup

- Jesus Christ - 07-09-2013 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19710079)
Please share your thoughts.

My thought is that I don't want to debate stupid people on GFY.

Read Murray Rothbard instead.

Relentless 07-09-2013 08:53 PM

Rand always failed to contemplate the strength of numbers.

If the useless outnumber the productive by a wide enough margin, it becomes encumbent on the productive to care for the useless out of ones own selfinterest. When poor people live too badly they revolt in huge numbers and cut the heads off the wealthy. Yet the wealthy never seem to learn that billions of poor people will always be more powerful than any handful of oligarchs during the rare times when te herd is motivated to act.

Social programs, reasonable healthcare, stable food sources, distractions from hardship... Providing that is a very small price to pay for the productive to keep their heads.

d-null 07-09-2013 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 19710313)
Rand always failed to contemplate the strength of numbers.

If the useless outnumber the productive by a wide enough margin, it becomes encumbent on the productive to care for the useless out of ones own selfinterest. When poor people live too badly they revolt in huge numbers and cut the heads off the wealthy. Yet the wealthy never seem to learn that billions of poor people will always be more powerful than any handful of oligarchs during the rare times when te herd is motivated to act.

Social programs, reasonable healthcare, stable food sources, distractions from hardship... Providing that is a very small price to pay for the productive to keep their heads.

I think she was aware of this, and it fits her philosophy therefore to say that giving out welfare is actually a selfish act

mikesinner 07-09-2013 09:37 PM

Ayn Rand had some pretty warped thinking, probably because of her childhood. I say that as a militant atheist.

$5 submissions 07-09-2013 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19710191)

If all the claims made in that toon are real, then:

http://i.imgur.com/mHM3DMk.gif

The Porn Nerd 07-09-2013 09:46 PM

Ayn Rand was a hypocrite because she took help from the worst source of all: government. Yup, she received Medicare and Social Security. Oh, and this was AFTER publication of her most famous works. (You would think a zealot of hers would've helped her out and - oops, nevermind.)

All she's done is give people a ready-made excuse/reason to be cruel, selfish, mean-spirited and short-sighted, all wrapped up in a tidy little "philosophy". You know, many selfish, greedy, cruel and meglomaniacal people in history have come up with tidy little philosophies to justify their anti-humanity behaviours. Nazis and Sadists come to mind. Oh Adolf and Marquis de Sade you philosophers you!!

d-null 07-09-2013 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 19710340)
Ayn Rand was a hypocrite because she took help from the worst source of all: government. Yup, she received Medicare and Social Security. Oh, and this was AFTER publication of her most famous works. (You would think a zealot of hers would've helped her out and - oops, nevermind.)

how does that make her a hypocrite? just because you might say that you don't believe it is right that the government forces you at the point of a gun to pay taxes to then give that money to someone else for free, doesn't make you a hypocrite if you take free money... if the government steals from me and I think it is wrong, I could still take whatever they are giving out for free and it doesn't change my belief that their original stealing is wrong. you still live within the society that is around you and by that society's rules even if you don't agree with all of the rules

The Porn Nerd 07-09-2013 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 19710345)
how does that make her a hypocrite? just because you might say that you don't believe it is right that the government forces you at the point of a gun to pay taxes to then give that money to someone else for free, doesn't make you a hypocrite if you take free money... if the government steals from me and I think it is wrong, I could still take whatever they are giving out for free and it doesn't change my belief that their original stealing is wrong. you still live within the society that is around you and by that society's rules even if you don't agree with all of the rules

And here we have the first of what will surely be many in this thread of what I like to call "the moral pretzelists". See how they twist and turn into a pretzel to make their twisted view of society and morality "fit". Priceless.

"Don't accept handouts from Governments! Help yourself!"
"I need help - where's my Government check?"

Don't forget the mustard.

pornsprite 07-11-2013 08:49 PM

I didn't read the book in school when I should have, but I fully understand what the book was about. I saw both part one and part two of the movie and part one was riveting. The second part used totally different actors and sucked.

arock10 07-12-2013 06:03 AM

Waiting for it to come out on Xbox one

PornDiscounts-V 07-12-2013 07:26 AM

She wrote and it got read, yet she still died broke.

Choopa_Pardo 07-12-2013 09:57 AM

Crummy book. Objectivism is a terrible philosophy.

bigluv 07-12-2013 02:53 PM

Well said Peabody!

I imagine you with your patched elbows, plus a pipe.

marcop 07-12-2013 09:05 PM

I read it in my mid-20's and thought it was lame... the kind of book that I would've enjoyed at 17 or 18, but that made no sense once I was out in the real world and trying to make a living.

TheSquealer 07-12-2013 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by marcop (Post 19715034)
I read it in my mid-20's and thought it was lame... the kind of book that I would've enjoyed at 17 or 18, but that made no sense once I was out in the real world and trying to make a living.

Hopefully the book made more sense than the movies. Part 1 was over 2 hrs of what felt like an eternity of building up to something... then the credits rolled. Part 2 is some sort of shitty super hero feeling movie with no superhero that makes very little sense at all.


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