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brassmonkey 07-12-2013 09:51 AM
Breaking News: At least eight are dead in train derailment near Paris
 
PARIS (Reuters) - An intercity train headed for the central French city of Limoges derailed south of Paris on Friday, the national rail company SNCF said.

The Le Parisien newspaper said up to eight people were dead but the Interior Ministry official said it could not confirm whether there were any deaths.

A photo on the website of the Le Parisien daily, taken from Twitter, showed a train carriage completely off its rails and smashed against a platform at the station of Bretigny-sur-Orge, located about 26 km (16 miles) south of Paris.

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Fat Panda 07-12-2013 09:51 AM
breaking and developing

Rochard 07-12-2013 10:00 AM
Riding on trains just sounds dangerous...

Scott McD 07-12-2013 10:01 AM
It isn't breaking news if DVTimes isn't revealing it...

brassmonkey 07-12-2013 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 19714240)
It isn't breaking news if Brass isn't revealing it...
got that right :2 cents:

Barry-xlovecam 07-12-2013 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19714235)
Riding on trains just sounds dangerous...
Right ...

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...Boeing-008.jpg

Crash and burn SFO this week.

Planes, ships, trains, buses ... People die when they crash -- passenger ferry ship sinkings seem the worst lately IMO.

Worst thing is that I was considering maybe Amsterdam to Paris and further south 1st Class train -- they are as fast time-wise as airports and planes really and a lot more relaxing. When your number is up, your number is up :Oh crap

brassmonkey 07-12-2013 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 19714266)
Right ...

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...Boeing-008.jpg

Crash and burn SFO this week.

Planes, ships, trains, buses ... People die when they crash -- passenger ferry ship sinkings seem the worst lately IMO.

Worst thing is that I was considering maybe Amsterdam to Paris and further south 1st Class train -- they are as fast time-wise as airports and planes really and a lot more relaxing. When your number is up, your number is up :Oh crap
last month a lady was run over at a bus stop :helpme sitting there waiting and bam some drunk and high bitch killed her :( her bag of groceries laying near by

Captain Kawaii 07-12-2013 10:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 19714266)
Right ...

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...Boeing-008.jpg

Crash and burn SFO this week.

Planes, ships, trains, buses ... People die when they crash -- passenger ferry ship sinkings seem the worst lately IMO.

Worst thing is that I was considering maybe Amsterdam to Paris and further south 1st Class train -- they are as fast time-wise as airports and planes really and a lot more relaxing. When your number is up, your number is up :Oh crap
Now the pilot is claiming he was hit with a big flash of light on approach. Said it through an interpreter. Engrish not so good. Unbelievable.

_Richard_ 07-12-2013 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 19714283)
Now the pilot is claiming he was hit with a big flash of light on approach. Said it through an interpreter. Engrish not so good. Unbelievable.
what was the word on the low approach?

globofun 07-12-2013 10:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19714235)
Riding on trains just sounds dangerous...
Nah....I'm always on a train!

Captain Kawaii 07-12-2013 11:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19714295)
what was the word on the low approach?
In a word, "noob." - NTSB is asking how could 4 pilots not be paying attention though. Further info from Korea suggests many passengers were disembarking themselves...the pics of people with baggage exiting, for example.

Prayers go out to the passengers in France as well. Seems when shit happens, it really happens. :(

Danny Deepwood 07-12-2013 12:46 PM
These aircraft are almost fully automated in regards to many things. I heard on one news report that the auto throttle was controlling the speed until they over rode it too late. The truth is we will never hears the NTSBs findings until possibly years later. Right now its all speculation.

I was licenced aircraft mechanic for 12 years, and I have known many pilots and still do. To get a Co-Captain job on any 777 at any airline you have to pay your dues royally. You often need a University degree and thousands of hours flying time on big aircraft. No noobs get that job, a 777 cost is 250 to 300 million with over 300 souls on board. True they say he was still training for that "type" but guarantee that he had 1000s of hours on heavys of many varieties.

This clip was the Paris Airshow with the first "fly by wire" airbus meaning no control cables to the flight controls, only wires to actuators trough a computer, pilot tried everything to get control but the computer was frozen. All these aircraft are fly by wire now.

brassmonkey 07-12-2013 12:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 19714266)
Right ...

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...Boeing-008.jpg

Crash and burn SFO this week.

Planes, ships, trains, buses ... People die when they crash -- passenger ferry ship sinkings seem the worst lately IMO.

Worst thing is that I was considering maybe Amsterdam to Paris and further south 1st Class train -- they are as fast time-wise as airports and planes really and a lot more relaxing. When your number is up, your number is up :Oh crap
:offtopic :disgust

Danny Deepwood 07-12-2013 12:52 PM
Looks like this thread got "derailed":1orglaugh:1orglaugh

brassmonkey 07-12-2013 12:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny Deepwood (Post 19714540)
Looks like this thread got "derailed":1orglaugh:1orglaugh
yeah :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Captain Kawaii 07-12-2013 01:23 PM
Thread derailing is racist! :upsidedow

Captain Kawaii 07-12-2013 01:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny Deepwood (Post 19714527)
These aircraft are almost fully automated in regards to many things. I heard on one news report that the auto throttle was controlling the speed until they over rode it too late. The truth is we will never hears the NTSBs findings until possibly years later. Right now its all speculation.

I was licenced aircraft mechanic for 12 years, and I have known many pilots and still do. To get a Co-Captain job on any 777 at any airline you have to pay your dues royally. You often need a University degree and thousands of hours flying time on big aircraft. No noobs get that job, a 777 cost is 250 to 300 million with over 300 souls on board. True they say he was still training for that "type" but guarantee that he had 1000s of hours on heavys of many varieties.

This clip was the Paris Airshow with the first "fly by wire" airbus meaning no control cables to the flight controls, only wires to actuators trough a computer, pilot tried everything to get control but the computer was frozen. All these aircraft are fly by wire now.
It is a FACT the Pilot was new to 777. It is a FACT he had never flown into SFO. It is a FACT his trainer had never trained anyone in a real flight scenario for 777.

Now back to the train carnage. Sounds like more and more deaths will be piling up.

Sad news for trains. :Oh crap

_Richard_ 07-12-2013 01:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny Deepwood (Post 19714527)
These aircraft are almost fully automated in regards to many things. I heard on one news report that the auto throttle was controlling the speed until they over rode it too late. The truth is we will never hears the NTSBs findings until possibly years later. Right now its all speculation.

I was licenced aircraft mechanic for 12 years, and I have known many pilots and still do. To get a Co-Captain job on any 777 at any airline you have to pay your dues royally. You often need a University degree and thousands of hours flying time on big aircraft. No noobs get that job, a 777 cost is 250 to 300 million with over 300 souls on board. True they say he was still training for that "type" but guarantee that he had 1000s of hours on heavys of many varieties.

This clip was the Paris Airshow with the first "fly by wire" airbus meaning no control cables to the flight controls, only wires to actuators trough a computer, pilot tried everything to get control but the computer was frozen. All these aircraft are fly by wire now.
yea heard 3/4 had over 10k hours.. interesting about the auto throttle.. remember seeing someone mention that a lot of these accidents seem to have some connection to 'automated services'

brassmonkey 07-12-2013 01:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 19714583)
Thread derailing is racist! :upsidedow
ok then.........

videobunch 07-12-2013 02:53 PM
I push we ban all buses, planes and trains.


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