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wehateporn 08-09-2013 05:14 PM

Is Zishy Zach a Photographic Genius?
 
What are your thoughts, how does he compare with the other leaders in this industry? I have a feeling that he'll be snapped up by some big company

mikesouth 08-09-2013 05:37 PM

who?

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Rochard 08-09-2013 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19753671)
who?

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What he said.

Who?

wehateporn 08-09-2013 05:43 PM

http://www.zishy.com/

SilentKnight 08-09-2013 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19753658)
how does he compare with the other leaders in this industry?

So...what places him amongst the "leaders"?

Seems to be competent with a camera...however nothing outstanding or special.

JP-pornshooter 08-09-2013 05:51 PM

he did work for digital desire before..
he has been on my set a few times, zach is a good guy.

EddyTheDog 08-09-2013 05:55 PM

You are 'Zishy Zach' aren't you?....

wehateporn 08-09-2013 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 19753684)
So...what places him amongst the "leaders"?

Seems to be competent with a camera...however nothing outstanding or special.

This is why I'm running a poll, I want to see what people think. I see an incredible amount of imagination going into his work, that's what I feel makes him stand out from the crowd :2 cents:

wehateporn 08-09-2013 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter (Post 19753689)
he did work for digital desire before..
he has been on my set a few times, zach is a good guy.

Seems like a good chap on email :thumbsup

wehateporn 08-09-2013 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19753691)
You are 'Zishy Zach' aren't you?....

Cameras aren't my thing I'm afraid, though sometimes I play a numbers game and take 117 random photos knowing that at least one will be a gem

wehateporn 08-09-2013 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19753674)
What he said.

Who?

Get Zishy on Rochard's Bunny Ranch, you're leaving sales on the table :2 cents: :thumbsup

mikesouth 08-09-2013 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19753678)

looks ok but i see nothing to put him in the Dean Cature/Ken Marcus/Steven Hicks/Holly Randall category

just run of the mill photography there

wehateporn 08-09-2013 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19753671)
who?

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His site is gradually appearing on the RADAR, but no skeletons in the closet (I don't think) :winkwink:


wehateporn 08-09-2013 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19753706)
looks ok but i see nothing to put him in the Dean Cature/Ken Marcus/Steven Hicks/Holly Randall category

just run of the mill photography there

Thanks for your input Mike, it's interesting to see what different people think :thumbsup

wehateporn 08-09-2013 06:20 PM

Perhaps it's a niche-specific Genius, that's what I'm interested to see

mikesouth 08-09-2013 06:21 PM

ya i mean its decent photography but i wouldnt call it genius like I would ansel adams

wehateporn 08-09-2013 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19753736)
ya i mean its decent photography but i wouldnt call it genius like I would ansel adams

Have you got a sample from ansel?

EddyTheDog 08-09-2013 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19753709)
His site is gradually appearing on the RADAR, but no skeletons in the closet (I don't think) :winkwink:


Put your reading glasses on and look again...

wehateporn 08-09-2013 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19753743)
Put your reading glasses on and look again...

His site is growing fast, that's clear, how big will it get? We shall see

MagicWand 08-09-2013 06:35 PM

JFK shoots the "Best"

EddyTheDog 08-09-2013 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19753746)
His site is growing fast, that's clear, how big will it get? We shall see

What happened at the end of July?

http://i.imgur.com/TeU3IXi.png

It will be interesting to see if this bump in GFY traffic will create a peak...

wehateporn 08-09-2013 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19753756)
What happened at the end of July?

http://i.imgur.com/TeU3IXi.png

It will be interesting to see if this bump in GFY traffic will create a peak...

The general trend from month-to-month is up :2 cents:

marcop 08-09-2013 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19753678)

I was talking to a retired porn chick yesterday who is now working as a madam/pimp, and she showed me a list of her girls and their rates. A number of the girls this genius has shot and put on his site are available for outcall or incall starting at the low, low price of $1,000.

wehateporn 08-09-2013 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by marcop (Post 19753778)
I was talking to a retired porn chick yesterday who is now working as a madam/pimp, and she showed me a list of her girls and their rates. A number of the girls this genius has shot and put on his site are available for outcall or incall starting at the low, low price of $1,000.

Amazing what money can buy

His Infernal Majesty 08-09-2013 09:51 PM

I think he does great work! I have been a fan of his work since I stumbled upon that site a year or so ago after he shot Mia Malkova. I was running a site somewhat similar, coincidentally, and after I saw his site, I gave up! lol Everything about that site is exactly the way it needs to be, and it shows that he is passionate about what he's doing.

Spunky 08-09-2013 10:17 PM

I dig his photography ,very talented

Pseudonymous 08-09-2013 10:22 PM

Not sure if this thread is serious or youre trying to give a little bump in business to a friend of yours.

But this is a softcore site (basically non nude), this site would have been great 10 years ago.

And not in the same sense solo girl sites aren't the same as they were 10 years ago, the sales of solo girl sites has decreased but if you are really good at what you do, they make very good money

Non nude on the other hand, not only is it not what people want these days, there is no affiliates to push non nude content.

The only reason this site is up is because he had all this content shot because he enjoys working with women and being a photographer and it doens't cost alot because they aren't doing anything risque. So there isn't much reason not to launch it and make the few bucks on it. But this is site will be extremely small and even with the best photographer and best marketing, has an extremely low ceiling when it comes to potential earnings.

Even the mightiest in non nude are realizing this, the ones who have built their non nude member base at a time when it was easy and have a long hill to go down before they consider closing up. So for one to build one now makes no sense to me. I surely wouldn't continue shooting for it. Time is money and i rather spend my time and put my skills towards nude content that has the potential to obtain than a couple hundred members.

There is nobody in adult who is creating non nude content that isn't extremely raunchy (toys, very graphic shots, etc) and full of interaction, webcam shows, etc (solo girl sites) ... and IMO, those programs are even leaning more towards nude now

If its true and the Zishy guy is an ex photographer for digital desire and enjoys shooting models. There is alot of potential for him, very surprised hes shooting a very small time non nude tease site. Hopefully hes got fully nude projects coming in the future

And regarding his traffic sites, that isn't monthly fluctuation. Thats affiliates getting on board. Pushing some traffic with all the new promo galleries. Members checking it out and leaving. Every website gets that spike at the beginning (whether its a failed project or not), as long as YDG, BFTM and a couple others get on board, which they did.. That site will not stay within Alexa's radar after a couple more months. Feel free to quote me

As far as the photography goes. High end? Not at all.. but that might possibly be his style hes going for. Still good though. Its exactly the style Solo requires

Mutt 08-09-2013 10:44 PM

I like Zishy a lot, started promoting it a few weeks ago and it's made a lot of sales - unfortunately the price he's charging is unneccessarily low, affiliate's cut is 4 dollars, i've done a few 19 dollar sales. What he should do is set up another tour, as simple as just copying his tour to a sub-domain for affiliates and charging at least 19.95 a month. So while it's sold better than new sites will for me the overall revenue isn't much better than a new site that converts decently.

Pseudonymous 08-09-2013 10:45 PM

I hope everybody takes into account Mutt runs one of the only couple sites that has non nude traffic so it will convert half decently on his site. You would need about 25 other sites like his to be able to maintain a respectable member count.

And its no secret alot of people who visit these sites expect more nudity inside and are disappointed and dont return.

Alot of paysites continue to grow because they get returning customers. Non nude sites will never have the same return rate, atleast back in the day with non nude solo girl sites, they interacted and they always hoped she'd show a little more and a little more and actually , most of them did. But they aren't falling for anyone on that site, theres no model theyre obsessed with stringing them along

Pseudonymous 08-09-2013 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter (Post 19753689)
he did work for digital desire before..
he has been on my set a few times, zach is a good guy.

You should be more specific, he was on the web side of digital desire apparently.

Makes sense now. I was wondering why he'd go backwards. Atleast hes starting somewhere, gives him a chance to learn, as soon as he figures out there isnt anything to make in non nude, he can use his experience with Zishy on the nude side.

PornDiscounts-V 08-09-2013 11:25 PM

I like that he shoots real girl next door photos.

Slutboat 08-09-2013 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pseudonymous (Post 19753888)
as soon as he figures out there isnt anything to make in non nude, he can use his experience with Zishy on the nude side.

Your fantasy that you are an authority on this biz is pure delusion.

I predict he makes more money on this nn site than all of your solo sites combined.

Captain Kawaii 08-09-2013 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19753691)
You are 'Zishy Zach' aren't you?....

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Babee needs attention. Maybe ok stuff but nothing special. Maybe.

Pseudonymous 08-09-2013 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Slutboat (Post 19753905)
Your fantasy that you are an authority on this biz is pure delusion.

I predict he makes more money on this nn site than all of your solo sites combined.

:1orglaugh

His Infernal Majesty 08-10-2013 12:45 AM

The more I read this thread, the more I think Zishy Zach Venice is a genius! :)

No homo.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8cwg9NceFco

jimmycastor 08-10-2013 02:40 AM

i agree hes a great photographer and he should raise his price to 29,95 month, that low price is the only thing that keeps me away from pushing it and im sure this stuff sells nice , compared to lots of crap content that is floating arround and constantly spammed in here...

but i guess hes clever, hes collecting a big growing paid memberbase and will bank out on another occasion.
and why not , talent should be rewarded...good luck to him

DVTimes 08-10-2013 02:52 AM

pics seem nice, but thats about it.

wehateporn 08-10-2013 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by His Infernal Majesty (Post 19753854)
I think he does great work! I have been a fan of his work since I stumbled upon that site a year or so ago after he shot Mia Malkova. I was running a site somewhat similar, coincidentally, and after I saw his site, I gave up! lol Everything about that site is exactly the way it needs to be, and it shows that he is passionate about what he's doing.

For sure, it can't just be a job for Zach, like you say it's more likely to be a passion :thumbsup

wehateporn 08-10-2013 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmycastor (Post 19753977)
but i guess hes clever, hes collecting a big growing paid memberbase and will bank out on another occasion.
and why not , talent should be rewarded...good luck to him

Quite possible, at the rate his site is growing in two years from now he'll have a mighty fine database :thumbsup

wehateporn 08-10-2013 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by His Infernal Majesty (Post 19753925)
The more I read this thread, the more I think Zishy Zach Venice is a genius! :)

No homo.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8cwg9NceFco

Now I've seen a number of comments here, there are enough people agreeing to conclude that Zach is at the very least a gifted photographer. :2 cents:

wehateporn 08-10-2013 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Pseudonymous (Post 19753871)
Not sure if this thread is serious or youre trying to give a little bump in business to a friend of yours.

But this is a softcore site (basically non nude), this site would have been great 10 years ago.

And not in the same sense solo girl sites aren't the same as they were 10 years ago, the sales of solo girl sites has decreased but if you are really good at what you do, they make very good money

Non nude on the other hand, not only is it not what people want these days, there is no affiliates to push non nude content.

Like you say Pseudonymous, there are far easier niches to make money in, non nude is one of the hardest niches to crack. A non nude site has no nudity to sell, so they've really got to use their brains and find a way of being better than a clothing catalog. It takes imagination, brains and talent to crack this niche, most would fail, most do fail, sites which were non nude gave up and added nudity. However, Zach's site is growing very fast despite being non nude. Like you say 10 years ago it was possible to do this, but in 2013 surely only a genius or someone gifted can create a hugely popular non nude site

rogueteens 08-10-2013 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19753880)
I like Zishy a lot, started promoting it a few weeks ago and it's made a lot of sales - unfortunately the price he's charging is unneccessarily low, affiliate's cut is 4 dollars, i've done a few 19 dollar sales. What he should do is set up another tour, as simple as just copying his tour to a sub-domain for affiliates and charging at least 19.95 a month. So while it's sold better than new sites will for me the overall revenue isn't much better than a new site that converts decently.

I just tried to click on the webmaster link on the bottom of the page - took me ages, every time I tried to click, new pics loaded up and pushed the link down! :D

Dankasaur 08-10-2013 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 19754068)
I just tried to click on the webmaster link on the bottom of the page - took me ages, every time I tried to click, new pics loaded up and pushed the link down! :D

You have to go to a non-front page link.

Grapesoda 08-10-2013 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pseudonymous (Post 19753871)
If its true and the Zishy guy is an ex photographer for digital desire and enjoys shooting models.

not a shooter, worked in the office... editing maybe... wasn't supposed to talk to the models, yet hit on the models to shoot for him :2 cents:

pornguy 08-10-2013 07:17 AM

Nothing special from what I see.

dyna mo 08-10-2013 08:00 AM

genius is a term that gets bandied about way too much these days, we need to keep the bar high re: genius status.

that said, zishy has moments of excellence. the outdoor stuff = wow.

wehateporn 08-10-2013 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 19754068)
I just tried to click on the webmaster link on the bottom of the page - took me ages, every time I tried to click, new pics loaded up and pushed the link down! :D

That's the IQ test to filter potential affiliates :winkwink:

Seth Manson 08-10-2013 04:29 PM

http://www.zishy.com/uploads/thumbs/...e_IMG_5149.jpg

he should be a little more respectful

wehateporn 08-10-2013 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 19754445)

he should be a little more respectful

The best artists a drawn towards pushing the limits :2 cents:

MediumPimpin 08-10-2013 06:03 PM

Started pushing the site a few months back, I really like his style.


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