Bongacams or bongaScams?
 

Long story short, I signed up with their program and approved for their pay per free sign ups.I made almost $800 and then on the pay day instead of payment I've got an email asking me about source of my traffic.I had a conversation with them on skype and $800 turned to $1.40 because of their terms and conditions.I don't mind at all and $800 is not killing me but I just want to share my story with you guys and warn you guys about this scam.my biggest question is if there is low quality traffic what's happening to sign ups from high quality traffic? and why they are not doing anything and exactly on payday the will stop payment and switch the program? simply they don't wanna pay for traffic! boncash and bongacams is nothing but scam.stay away from them. you've been warned.

Never had this problem on the PSS. If they can prove you that your users just sign up and don't even spend their bonus tokens... What's there to add? Your traffic must have sucked big time.

inb4 damagecontrol and accusing of fraudulent signups and bla bla bla

Your story is similar with more others story. I don't promote them and i'll never do it! Switch to another sponsor because they are weast of time, money and traffic!
Good luck!

So what sources were you sending traffic from?

The most important question in this story. :thumbsup

if your converting 1:1 there must be something sneaky with your traffic sources.

Dear shahvatnak, your statistics looked very suspicious, so our Affiliate Program Manager has contacted you to get some explanation where is your traffic coming from. Your answers made us confident in fact that you are cheating.

The main reason why we believe you have attempted to cheat is that 99% of your registrations are made through proxy servers and every third attempt was using the IP address that was already used within a short period of time. And secondary - 1,650 TOP QUALITY registrations that you've sent to BongaCash has produced enormous amount of purchases! Two.. two sales, total of $9,29.

P.S.: when affiliate is starting to work on PerSignup program, he is going through the conversation with our Affiliate Program Manager and being informed that we are not allowing low quality traffic on PerSignup campaigns.

haha that's .005 cent per registration

Added you to skype :pimp

Lol he was put in his place m

That's what we get too 8 or 9 every 10 new affiliates of our ppl/cpa cam program. In other words, only 1 or 2 every 10 new affiliates is not cheating. Especially when someone (not us) posts our wm program link in botnet/blackhat/fraudsters boards, or rapidworkers/ microworkers/ minuteworkers/ odesk/elance (offer job paying $1 every signup, so they think they make $2 profit per signup due to difference...) the cheaters come in clusters (or, clusterfucks).

However it is not required to be rude with cheaters. They have human rights too, and maybe are nice guys, who may get offense and revenge writing bad reviews in forums or such. I am always as friendly as possible with cheaters, if they cheat well I even give them something, and try to bust them the first 1 or 2 days, asking them to stop, so they do not waste a whole week cheating.

didn't answer my question and using my honest respond against myself
 

in my OP I asked him if there is a fraud sign ups ( that's what they are addressing the non-valid sign ups) why you guys not contacting publisher at all and just waiting until exact very last moment then on the pay day you're coming up with your self made,self protector T.O.S? and what's happening to valid sign ups? why you are not paying for that? about the proxy issue I honestly told him about possible issue which I'm explaining here as well.I have one website in "Farsi" or persian and as everyone knows Iranian government filtering the internet.so people of Iran have no choice but using proxy or anti-filter softwares to access internet. bongacash is claiming for pay for sign ups from any country ( and specially for Iran is 5 cents per free sign up). if bonga people were honest and honored their word at list they could pay 5 cents for those sign ups by knowing that and pay for valid sign ups as they promised.or at least ignore those sign ups and just pay for so called valid sign ups.they didn't and I'm sure they don't. dear bongacams,you will lose your business faster than you even imagine.you're hiding yourself in cyprus ( the country) and on skype it shows you are located in christmas Island!! why? I can't insert a link here yet because number of my posts are under 30 but if you guys who read this post search google for "ripoff reports bongacams" and click on the first link it might explain why! ( I just found this when I was searching for more complaints again bongacam ).why there is not even one bongacams payment proof in entire web? everyone should know about you guys and decide. so far Crackrevenue is the best based of my experience ,they are rock.and you are...

Iranian government=no pay for you

Fuck Iranian government we are talking about people of Iran. beside what I'm saying is bongacams is actually paying for signups from Iran (it's 5 cents per free sign up) or if they don't wanna pay for that personally I don't mind but they say they do! at the end,I'm saying why they didn't pay at least for valid sign ups. need more explain?

I am cheating? you mean all of those sign ups made by me? and you're saying only two sales? how do I know you are not lying? based of what proof? you never paid anyone yet calling me a cheater? I tell you who is the cheater.cheater is a scam who is waiting for maximize stealing the free traffic then comes up with bullshit T.O.S. not running business from United states and hide in a remote island in order to protect himself from legal issues. as I said in my previous post people need to search this words "ripoff reports bongacams" on google and check the first link. if it's true,I hope you pay for what you doing.and can I ask you HONEST! bongaguys why there is not even one bongacash payment proof on entire web or even here? I suggest you prepare some fake payment proof and post it here at least ASAP.
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I just wanted to share my experience with you readers, not wasting my time with this people. good luck and if you wanna choose cam program,choose wisely. Crackrevenue,Thanks again for your existence.
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looks legit

Please let me know your username on crakrevenue.
You got me curious.

The guy signups iranian guys and you're paying that as US leads :)

Been myself there too regarding "suspicious statistics" at Bonga. After i granted access to google analytics and my traffic sources been checked everything was okay.
Im working with rev-share btw however Bonga not works very good for me.

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my websites,blogs,facebook and twitter.never mind I don't even need and think about their money after I read about them in "ripoff reports"... it is horrible,shocking and disgusting.

Dear Sir,

It's not true.millions of Iranians ( like myself) left a country as a refugee and we are living mostly in north America and europe but we still interested in Farsi contents as well as english and other language cotents. almsot about 10 million Iranians are living in North America,Eroupe,Australia and some other countries. people of inside of Iran rarely trying to access porn websites first because of heavy filtering and super slow internet (it 256 kbps ,yes!) and second if regime catch them there is big punishment is waiting for them. with that internet speed no one can even listen to internet radio,watching cams is impossible! so what I answered to the bongaguy about non-valid sign up was just my honest guess and like everyone else I have no control who is visiting my websites but what he did is just took that as a excuse to cut my revenue immediately. but Iranians outside of Iran still interested in porn like other people and visiting adult websites based of their taste.we have high speed internet ,no filtering or harsh big brother style islamic regime,so why not? we are people like you guys,we work,we love,and we watch porn as well. I hope you don't mind that.peace

Please contact us anyway, i may be able to prove your right... Hopefully

You agree there are some Iranians left in Iran, and that emigrated Iranians do not use proxy. Bongacams said most of your traffic it was from proxy, and so it was Iranians in Iran, which the system accounted for payment as US/CA etc. payout, so making $800+ payable. But if you remove (or convert to 5 cents) the proxy signups (Iranians in Iran), may you agree this $800 became much much smaller?

I don't know why anyone serious about traffic would jump on pay per free... The affiliate program is not going to keep paying for free joins if they are not profitable :2 cents:

The problem is the people you hire at microworkers.com to signup don't buy anything :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Nobody is going to pay for shit traffic, muslim countries are shit traffic. Those customers are all in violation of the sites TOS already becasue adult content is illegal in muslim countries, and any boiler plate TOS will state that you cant access the site in places where it's illegal.

I don't know if bongacams is a scam or not but I def. wound't pay the OP either. As soon as I saw signups from proxies I would ban his account.

" Bongacam said" but where is the proof? what I can see as a webmaster is just IP addresses but if you guys have more advance systems can he show proof to us here or at least he could email me some proof before asking me questions and use my words against me? and with all do respect I don't agree with you it could be bigger amount ( not much much smaller) because that $800 ($857 to be exact) was for valid sign ups and he was talking about none valid sign-ups so if there system wanted to pay for non-valid sign ups from Iran it had to be $857 + 5 cents for each one of those sign ups. beside of all of them they had one section on their daily sales report as N/A sign ups!!! like %20 of the sales was N/A ! and of course no pay for N/A sign ups. I suggest you try their system by yourself ( without telling them who you are) and see what's gonna happen for yourself.if you did,please let us know here.thank you Sir

Exactly! that's the point!! why they didn't? why they waited until very last moment to collect all of those so called useless proxy sign ups? ( not talking about valid sign ups based of their own report which collected me over $800) they couldn't see anything until the payday then all of a sudden they realise all of the sign ups are invalid? you tell me please

This is why my network is very picky about who we let in. One filter we do is we require a screenshare of an active affiliates earnings.

This easily gets rid of the majority of the fakes and keeps the traffic quality of our network high. More payouts on the offer = more money to REAL affiliates and no money to fraudsters.

So should they immediately tell the scammer that his signups are fake? No. They should waste their time for as long possible, delay payment and make them think they are getting paid.

seems you're very happy with them,or maybe you are one of them,OR maybe it's you and hide yourself behind another username like a pussy? just bring on the proof or shut your mouth. there is not even one payment proof from them on entire web,but you saying their just running this (S)cam business to punish cheaters? note a very good joke. what happened to valid sign ups? were they fake as well? what are they (or possibly you) gaining from that? collecting fake accounts and hanging them on the wall? or stealing free traffic and not showing up to show the proof? none of you losers are worthy to talk back. I'm just spending my time to warn others to stay away from you scammers.

I'm done here so feel free to post your bullshits as much as you want.don't forget to mask your ass with another username. also many thanks for the supporters.

You see that join date, faggot? This is my one and only account here.

even if it's true,and if it's your only (or first?) username,an asshole is an asshole regardless of 12 years fucking around.

If I send shit traffic and I didn't get paid I would tell them I'm sorry I wasted their time.

Not if company claims they can convert it. I don't know what this guys Farsi site did but I had similar situation with AFF. They told me about taking Chinese traffic, so I pushed them shit load of it from hotlink substitution image. Had all hotlinked images on chinese boards display image with add "See more asian porn at domain(dot)com" So they manually had to put URL in, fuck around on my chinese site and then go to asian friend finder. Baaaammmm.. right at payout they converted me to some shit-fuck rate of 1 cent per join. :321GFY

AFF:1orglaugh What where you thinking?:helpme

And scammers are gonna scam...carry on fool.

Totaly agreed! Maybe Bongacash is not the best cam program but trying to cheat is dumb, and that kind of scamers must waste their time! I never send traffic on PPS I use only rev and share, and I got some sales from poor countries!

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is that the bongascams payment proof you posted? or proof of being an assleaker who doesn't have anything but this to support his assfucker? I just feel sorry for you. poor retarded worm... I'm really done here.I should've known supporter of bongascam can't be better than this. keep posting your childhood memories and try to look cool with that. last word from me to others who need to know about bongacams. just search "ripoff reports bongacams" and also search about bongacams scam then decide by yourself.

[QUOTE=shahvatnak;19829248]Would you mind providing me with your user name on crakrevenue.
I then will be able to confirm or not that your traffic is good.

I don't think he will provide you his crakrevenue user name!

This,
But in this case he did not hired microwokers/odesk people to signup. He converted Iranians as US signups. Iranians use proxy on their own because porn is banned by their ISPs, so they are not "in agreement" with the affiliate, simply they are natural fake US signups.

This,
For example in our affiliates instruction page we warn about not to send mostly proxy signups as that is not payable. If an affiliate is warned beforehand, that's ok.

And This.
It would be interesting to know what another affiliate thinks of your traffic.
About mine cam program, I tell you in advance NOT to signup as you will be NOT paid for iranians under US/CA proxy. So no one wastes time.

I have shahvatnak OP as affiliate since 4 days, traffic comes from shahvatnak.com.
I can confirm this traffic should NOT be paid by any CPA/PPL network as US/CA/AU traffic.

Of all the signups, I could find NO ONE made from an ISP, they are 100%, from proxy, all of them. List of IP's:

192.30.86.197-IP-Static-VISPERAD.COM
192.30.86.198-IP-Static-VISPERAD.COM
h88-150-247-210.host.redstation.co.uk
h88-150-130-108.host.redstation.co.uk
195.93.60.7 cache-frr-aa07.proxy.aol.com
46.165.232.214 hosted-by.leaseweb.com
95.211.199.76 hosted-by.leaseweb.com
212.71.237.127 li666-127.members.linode.com
212.71.253.245 li626-245.members.linode.com
178.79.184.84 li353-84.members.linode.com
212.71.249.108 li622-108.members.linode.com
206.190.147.184.static.midphase.com
206.190.135.212 206.190.135.212.static.midphase.com
207.182.145.234 ea.91.b6.static.xlhost.com
...

Now, either iranians use proxy even when outside Iran (why so?), or these are Iranians 100% in Iran today. Which is not payable, even if geotarget (maxmind) reported it as US/CAN/UK leads automatically. US/CA/UK is the place of the proxy server, but the PPL CPA offer is for people FROM (currently in) US/CA/UK - also there is mention about proxies in "instructions" page, at least in our program.

Isn't pornography extremely illegal in Iran anyways? Proxy or not, I don't blame programs for not taking that traffic.

Guess who else uses proxies? - Scammers!

found his account 0 conversions on 500$ of raw leads wisely spread around all our programs.

no wonder you did not reply with your account Id.

I highly suggest you to start a site in another language...like english ... or find a sponsor who can convert Iran.

Well not only that but most payment processors wont take transactions from Iran anyway so its worthless traffic, it can't convert.

guys,I'm living outside Iran and I run couple of adult websites... %100 Iranian visitors from Iran is a bit unbelievable because no one can see cams in Iran ( according of 256kbps legal speed of internet in Iran) . I do understand all of you guys want to make money and if it's not making money for you guys or not enough money I don'e blame you . supporting each other is not a shame as well.I'm no longer promoting cams on my Farsi websites and I'm gonna leave only revshare links on facebook,twitter,and my english websites.I'm brave enough to apology if I caused any problem. I can see just IP addresses and what made me post this topic was I didn't get any proof. I still didn't see any bongacams payment proof on the web but again I do apology if I bothered anyone.