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srockhard 10-16-2013 10:53 AM

SexCamAffiliates.com v1.0 BETA - Join Now!
 
I am proud to finally announce the BETA testing phase of SexCamAffiliates.com! This BETA test is a prelude toward our goal of becoming a very unique and viable live cam affiliate program. Currently in union with Sliiing, I am seeking 10 qualified affiliates to join our live cam affiliate program. The BETA testing is running now and will run through November. During BETA testing we will pay all affiliates a flat rate of up to $5 per FREE join for Tier 1 traffic. The FREE join requires email and credit card from the member.

In addition to regular earnings and payouts we will be giving away a Microsoft Surface RT (MRSP $349) at the end of our BETA test to the affiliate with the most signups. The rewards during BETA testing are not calculated on total revenue but only by the total amount of signups via Tier 1, 2 or 3.

What is special about SexCamAffiliates? Our program uses proven methods to target your traffic so that you will convert more often and make more money! Specifically we target your traffic by geo location and lead them one of our sites depending on their location and/or the niche content they enjoy most! For instance if you have traffic coming from New York area then our geo tools will show them our New York specific sites! Or if you have big tits traffic then why not send them to a big tits cam site?

Unfortunately we can only accept the first 10 qualified affiliates to join our BETA test. Once the BETA testing is complete (December and into 2014) we will open up to all affiliates. The main reason for running this BETA test is to make sure that we don't jump out of our boots too fast. We aim to provide excellent customer service and currently this is going to be run by just myself and JoeC. the former affiliate manager for FattyPass.

Go now and signup as an affiliate!

Zeiss 10-16-2013 11:17 AM

OK. Signed up. Let's see it...

adultforum 10-16-2013 11:21 AM

Crack guys pay the same amount for a simple profile email registration on the same cam program as you do. What makes you special?

Zeiss 10-16-2013 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by adultforum (Post 19836830)
Crack guys pay the same amount for a simple profile email registration on the same cam program as you do. What makes you special?

Good question there!!

lazycash 10-16-2013 11:23 AM

Going to be difficult attracting beta testers when you're only paying $5 for a free cc join on a streamate cobrand affiliate program when affiliates can just promote streamate directly and get paid $40 for the same join.

srockhard 10-16-2013 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by adultforum (Post 19836830)
Crack guys pay the same amount for a simple profile email registration on the same cam program as you do. What makes you special?

Good question. Crack is a great program no doubt. SexCamAffiliates offers many more site designs that will capture your traffic better based on their geo location and/or your niche. We will be working toward a TRUE per free payout (no credit card required) but at this point credit card (no charge made) is the best we can do.

AllAboutCams 10-16-2013 11:32 AM

Will you be adding rev share?

ITraffic 10-16-2013 11:39 AM

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srockhard 10-16-2013 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 19836836)
Going to be difficult attracting beta testers when you're only paying $5 for a free cc join on a streamate cobrand affiliate program when affiliates can just promote streamate directly and get paid $40 for the same join.

Very true but we wouldn't have started this uphill battle if we didn't think we could compete. Promoting Streamate directly is great if you don't know your niche. SexCamAffiliates will also send your traffic to a geo specific cobranded site which has been very successful in our trials.

srockhard 10-16-2013 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by AllAboutCams (Post 19836850)
Will you be adding rev share?

Yes. We have been working with Marco to incorporate revenue sharing into our program however it will not be available during beta.

LouiseLloyd 10-16-2013 11:52 AM

Interesting concept, didn't realise you could do this via mtree or is this a special arrangement?

Good idea and good luck!

srockhard 10-16-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by LouiseLloyd (Post 19836895)
Interesting concept, didn't realise you could do this via mtree or is this a special arrangement?

Good idea and good luck!

Thank you Louise! Technically this is not part of MTree but is done with the help of Streamates white label department and Sliiing Solutions.

lazycash 10-16-2013 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by srockhard (Post 19836869)
Very true but we wouldn't have started this uphill battle if we didn't think we could compete. Promoting Streamate directly is great if you don't know your niche. SexCamAffiliates will also send your traffic to a geo specific cobranded site which has been very successful in our trials.

The most difficult part of starting a streamate cobrand is offering the affiliates something unique in terms of promo tools while keeping payouts close to what streamate offers. There's been plenty over the years and most eventually fizzle out. Probably the most successful was Epiccams, often they would run promos paying out more than streamate on free cc joins because they would make double that on revshare returns. Hotcams was another that had some unique payout programs and promo tools that streamate didn't offer, but they never really got going and eventually fizzled and are now back into Slickcash.

Initially you need some startup capital to keep payouts competitive, starting a streamate cobrand affiliate program with little cash and insulting affiliates with a $5 payout vs the $40 they could receive, is a surefire way to fizzle out soon.

Streamate already offers direct niche linking, I'm not really seeing what your geo specific sites offer. For example, going to your New York cobrand brings me a page of camgirls, none of which are from New York. Your big tit cobrand offers the same thing a busty niche site could link to streamate directly and bring up the same niche page. The only thing that appears uniquely targeted is the domain name.

At least start your beta with a $20 to $25 payout, that will give you plenty of room for profit still and you might attract a few affiliates who are willing to sacrifice the lower payout for a chance to win the contest. As it stands now, the only affiliates I see you attracting are the naive ones who don't realize they are accepting a payout 85% less than what they could receive. Not trying to be a hater, just think maybe you need to rethink your launch.

srockhard 10-16-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 19836936)
The most difficult part of starting a streamate cobrand is offering the affiliates something unique in terms of promo tools while keeping payouts close to what streamate offers. There's been plenty over the years and most eventually fizzle out. Probably the most successful was Epiccams, often they would run promos paying out more than streamate on free cc joins because they would make double that on revshare returns. Hotcams was another that had some unique payout programs and promo tools that streamate didn't offer, but they never really got going and eventually fizzled and are now back into Slickcash.

Initially you need some startup capital to keep payouts competitive, starting a streamate cobrand affiliate program with little cash and insulting affiliates with a $5 payout vs the $40 they could receive, is a surefire way to fizzle out soon.

Streamate already offers direct niche linking, I'm not really seeing what your geo specific sites offer. For example, going to your New York cobrand brings me a page of camgirls, none of which are from New York. Your big tit cobrand offers the same thing a busty niche site could link to streamate directly and bring up the same niche page. The only thing that appears uniquely targeted is the domain name.

At least start your beta with a $20 to $25 payout, that will give you plenty of room for profit still and you might attract a few affiliates who are willing to sacrifice the lower payout for a chance to win the contest. As it stands now, the only affiliates I see you attracting are the naive ones who don't realize they are accepting a payout 85% less than what they could receive. Not trying to be a hater, just think maybe you need to rethink your launch.

We appreciate you taking a look and providing feedback. Make no mistake that this is not a fly by the seat of your pants program. We have been at this awhile as affiliates ourselves and manage hundreds of blogs, tubes, paysites etc. as well as involvement in many other facets of the biz. We have paid close attention to other programs by watching their successes and failures. Our payouts are competitive based on trials ratios and do not reflect our startup capital.

lazycash 10-16-2013 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by srockhard (Post 19836979)
We appreciate you taking a look and providing feedback. Make no mistake that this is not a fly by the seat of your pants program. We have been at this awhile as affiliates ourselves and manage hundreds of blogs, tubes, paysites etc. as well as involvement in many other facets of the biz. We have paid close attention to other programs by watching their successes and failures. Our payouts are competitive based on trials ratios and do not reflect our startup capital.

If you have the experience you say you do, then you would know that a streamate free cc verify join will average out over time to be worth $xxx. Your payout is not competitive whatsoever and equals what most affiliates are earning for a simple email join. Extend the lag before first payout and min payout amount so you can raise your payout, you won't get any affiliate traffic with your current offering. Your offering is equivalent to me asking if anyone wants to promote my crakrevenue $4 mfc link, I'm paying out .50.

xNetworx 10-16-2013 01:26 PM

$5? The program in my sig pays $45 for the same thing. I don't get it man.

srockhard 10-16-2013 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 19836989)
If you have the experience you say you do, then you would know that a streamate free cc verify join will average out over time to be worth $xxx. Your payout is not competitive whatsoever and equals what most affiliates are earning for a simple email join. Extend the lag before first payout and min payout amount so you can raise your payout, you won't get any affiliate traffic with your current offering. Your offering is equivalent to me asking if anyone wants to promote my crakrevenue $4 mfc link, I'm paying out .50.

Free cc joins take about 2 years to be worth $xxx. Our valuation of free cc join is based on 12 months so is not $xxx but actually $xx and like I said in trials our conversion was much higher with niche and geo specific sites.

If you like fat girls you and I asked you to signup only for one of these sites:

http://streamate.com
http://foxxycams.com

Our trials say that you would likely sign up with FoxxyCams nearly 80% of the time.

If you live in Las Vegas and I asked you to signup for only one of these:

http://streamate.com
http://vegascamgirls.com

Our trials say that you would likely sign up with VegasCamgirls about 65% of the time.

I hope this helps to make sense of our approach.

lazycash 10-16-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by srockhard (Post 19837040)
Free cc joins take about 2 years to be worth $xxx. Our valuation of free cc join is based on 12 months so is not $xxx but actually $xx and like I said in trials our conversion was much higher with niche and geo specific sites.

If you like fat girls you and I asked you to signup only for one of these sites:

http://streamate.com
http://foxxycams.com

Our trials say that you would likely sign up with FoxxyCams nearly 80% of the time.

If you live in Las Vegas and I asked you to signup for only one of these:

http://streamate.com
http://vegascamgirls.com

Our trials say that you would likely sign up with VegasCamgirls about 65% of the time.

I hope this helps to make sense of our approach.

They are worth $xxx in 6 months with high volume, the lower the volume the longer it takes obviously. Your trials wouldn't give you accurate data of what a 100 affiliates pushing traffic to your program would do for that average join value.

Again, I really don't understand any advantage to your targeted cobrands. If I own a bbw site, I'm not going to send my traffic to the streamate default page as you used in your example. I'm going to send directly to the bbw niche landing page as you have directed on foxxycams. With Streamate I can also display niche specific iframes with live camgirls directly on my site, do you offer that?

I would have liked your streamate multi site cobrands idea a bit more before streamate cobrands started getting penalized in the serps for dup content last week. I think you could have built up some decent geo niche cam traffic, but don't think that will happen now. At least now I know why you were buying up streamate white labels months back.

DutchTrafficService 10-16-2013 02:23 PM

2 issues here,

1: I see exactly zero value added here, even after attempts to explain why we should join this, i see no value added whatsoever.


2: the payouts are almost an insult, and your so called "tier 3" countries contain a ton of highpaying actuall tier 1 countries which you pay a whole...wait for it.... 1$ for.. :error

srockhard 10-16-2013 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 19837068)
They are worth $xxx in 6 months with high volume, the lower the volume the longer it takes obviously. Your trials wouldn't give you accurate data of what a 100 affiliates pushing traffic to your program would do for that average join value.

Again, I really don't understand any advantage to your targeted cobrands. If I own a bbw site, I'm not going to send my traffic to the streamate default page as you used in your example. I'm going to send directly to the bbw niche landing page as you have directed on foxxycams. With Streamate I can also display niche specific iframes with live camgirls directly on my site, do you offer that?

I would have liked your streamate multi site cobrands idea a bit more before streamate cobrands started getting penalized in the serps for dup content last week. I think you could have built up some decent geo niche cam traffic, but don't think that will happen now. At least now I know why you were buying up streamate white labels months back.

(*mobileResponse)
I am not sure if increased volume would equate increased conversion ratios. Our estimates infact were lower conversion rates with increased volume.

Yes we offer niche specific iframes infact you can use all the same ones that Streamate offers via Mtree or WL Affiliate panel as well as our custom tools.

Not sure why the serp of our sites would be important to affiliates but as it is we sit pretty well with a few of our sites.

DutchTrafficService 10-16-2013 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by srockhard (Post 19837115)
(*mobileResponse)
I am not sure if increased volume would equate increased conversion ratios. Our estimates infact were lower conversion rates with increased volume.

Yes we offer niche specific iframes infact you can use all the same ones that Streamate offers via Mtree or WL Affiliate panel as well as our custom tools.

Volume has absolutely nothing to do with conversions, all things being equall, a percentage is a percentage, the only thing that changes is that you will get a more accurate idea of the average user value on higher volumes, i don't see how you can't understand this.

Quote:

Not sure why the serp of our sites would be important to affiliates but as it is we sit pretty well with a few of our sites.
Obviously the serp is important, an average internet user that revisits a certain website, will look for it in google quite often by its 'brandname' excluding the domainextension, your site possibly not being there with other results showing up, means a potential lost customer == not good.

thumbuilderic 10-16-2013 02:30 PM

Just joined. Eager to check it out. (@thumbuilder on twitter; I tweeted you)

lazycash 10-16-2013 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srockhard (Post 19837115)
(*mobileResponse)
I am not sure if increased volume would equate increased conversion ratios. Our estimates infact were lower conversion rates with increased volume.

Yes we offer niche specific iframes infact you can use all the same ones that Streamate offers via Mtree or WL Affiliate panel as well as our custom tools.

Not sure why the serp of our sites would be important to affiliates but as it is we sit pretty well with a few of our sites.

Not once did I ever talk about conversion ratios, I was referring to your average revshare return per cc verify join, 2 completely different things. Volume won't have much impact on the first, could have a major impact on the second. I was referring to the possible serps advantage of having multiple niche streamate white labels from your perspective, since they offer zero added value to the affiliate, even though you continue to say otherwise. Of course now that the streamate white labels are getting killed in the serps, its a moot point.

srockhard 10-16-2013 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mastersmodeling (Post 19837120)
Just joined. Eager to check it out. (@thumbuilder on twitter; I tweeted you)

Great thank you. I will take a look when I return to my desk this evening.

lazycash 10-16-2013 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService (Post 19837119)
Volume has absolutely nothing to do with conversions, all things being equall, a percentage is a percentage, the only thing that changes is that you will get a more accurate idea of the average user value on higher volumes, i don't see how you can't understand this.


Exactly, problem is with this payout he's not going to increase his traffic volume so he won't really see the true potential value of a streamate cc verify join. I've seen about 20 streamate cobrand affiliate programs open up over the last decade, most of them were cam program add ons to the major adult paysite affiliate programs. The lowest payout I ever saw out of all of these was $20 and that tiered up with higher volume. Heck you can promote Crakrev's streamate cobrand and get paid the same payout for just an email join with no cc required.

whOaKemosabe 10-16-2013 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by srockhard (Post 19837157)
Great thank you. I will take a look when I return to my desk this evening.

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adultmobile 10-16-2013 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultforum (Post 19836830)
Crack guys pay the same amount for a simple profile email registration on the same cam program as you do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 19836836)
you're only paying $5 for a free cc join on a streamate cobrand affiliate program when affiliates can just promote streamate directly and get paid $40 for the same join.

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lazycash 10-16-2013 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19837347)
Originally Posted by adultforum View Post
Crack guys pay the same amount for a simple profile email registration on the same cam program as you do.
Quote:
Originally Posted by lazycash View Post
you're only paying $5 for a free cc join on a streamate cobrand affiliate program when affiliates can just promote streamate directly and get paid $40 for the same join.

You pointed out Crak's email join payout and I pointed out Streamate's cc verify join payout of $40, not sure what your point is.

maximiweb 10-16-2013 09:24 PM

I try to enroll

srockhard 10-21-2013 11:40 PM

Thank you to everyone who has applied! We have 3 spots left at this time so go now to http://sexcamaffiliates.com to get started! For those of you concerned with our low payouts please note that this is being discussed between JoeC and I and before the end of our beta trials we will make a decision about possibly increasing payouts.

ErectMedia 10-22-2013 06:44 AM

I debated adding an affiliate program myself as I have a few general white labels that do well and a couple niche specific cam domains I could put to use for a few more. Then realized most people suck so built a stack of niche sites myself for the primary purpose of sending traffic to niche specific pages on my own white labels. lazycash makes a few good points but ya seem like a decent guy so bump for ya and finding the formula that works :thumbsup

adultmobile 10-22-2013 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 19837354)
not sure what your point is.

I just wanted to post my signature with some funny meme pics.

whOaKemosabe 11-21-2013 10:44 PM

so how is the cam program going?

srockhard 11-21-2013 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by whOaKemosabe (Post 19881842)
so how is the cam program going?

I got a few affiliates but no traffic. I must need increased payouts...what other failures do I have?

ls101 11-21-2013 11:11 PM

Do you accept social media traffic and opt-in?


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