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SlammedMedia 11-14-2013 10:44 AM

Georges St. Pierre -- Who's Betting Against Him This Weekend?
 
His 11 fight win streak was a good one, but I think the stars are well aligned for Johny Hendricks to take the title.

From his powerful left hand, to his ground game, St. Pierre has yet to be tested the way he will be Saturday night. However, defensively I'd give the edge to St. Pierre, but as overwhelmed as I see him potentially being, I don't think it'll matter.

As far as heart goes it's pretty even, you don't see many fights with the amount of heart that will be on full display when these two step in the ring Saturday night.

Who are you picking?

SlammedMedia 11-14-2013 11:26 AM

Does anyone know if you can bet on single fights anywhere online?

BAKO 11-14-2013 11:28 AM

U check out superbook.com ?

BAKO 11-14-2013 11:30 AM

Georges St Pierre -240


Johny Hendricks +180

Not a bad payout if he wins. No way in hell that would happen lol

PR_Glen 11-14-2013 11:36 AM

sounds like more hype to me more than anything.. plus hendricks sounds overly confident which is usually telling.

both are good fighters though so i guess anything can happen. I still think st pierre's cautious style is going to work out for him though.

SlammedMedia 11-14-2013 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BAKO (Post 19873271)
Georges St Pierre -240


Johny Hendricks +180

Not a bad payout if he wins. No way in hell that would happen lol

How do you think St. Pierre will beat him? Hendricks is the better wrestler and St. Pierre doesn't knock anyone out. If he wins it'll have to be a lucky submission I think, or he sits back and picks up some points with that annoying jab.

SlammedMedia 11-14-2013 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19873276)
sounds like more hype to me more than anything.. plus hendricks sounds overly confident which is usually telling.

both are good fighters though so i guess anything can happen. I still think st pierre's cautious style is going to work out for him though.

Hopefully we get a real fight, and not another joke like the Silva vs. Weidman match.

MrBottomTooth 11-14-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SlammedMedia (Post 19873277)
How do you think St. Pierre will beat him? Hendricks is the better wrestler and St. Pierre doesn't knock anyone out. If he wins it'll have to be a lucky submission I think, or he sits back and picks up some points with that annoying jab.

He has faced supposed better wrestlers / grapplers before and always made them look silly. It'll be another 5 round wrestlefuck with neither man doing any major damage and St Pierre pulling off a unanimous decision like always. Then I wouldn't be surprised if you seen him retire.

SlammedMedia 11-14-2013 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 19873296)
He has faced supposed better wrestlers / grapplers before and always made them look silly.


I've yet to hear anything stating Hendricks "isn't" the best wrestler he's ever faced -- No one St. Pierre has fought has the wrestling credentials Hendricks does. He's won two NCAA Division I wrestling titles and it should have been 3.

MrBottomTooth 11-14-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SlammedMedia (Post 19873363)
I've yet to hear anything stating Hendricks "isn't" the best wrestler he's ever faced -- No one St. Pierre has fought has the wrestling credentials Hendricks does. He's won two NCAA Division I wrestling titles and it should have been 3.

Koscheck was no slouch in the wrestling department, also a NCAA Division I wrestling champ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Koscheck

Thing is these wrestlers get in there and think they can throw bombs all night and knock people out. Maybe if they actually used their wrestling to their full advantage instead of trying to be Clubber Lang then they might make St Pierre look silly for a change. I predict Hendricks goes in there and throws his left all night and ends up wrestlefucked himself just like Diaz.

PR_Glen 11-14-2013 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SlammedMedia (Post 19873281)
Hopefully we get a real fight, and not another joke like the Silva vs. Weidman match.

Since when does st. pierre take any fight lightly? Even the suggestion of him not being prepared or not taking it seriously is nuts..

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 19873375)
Koscheck was no slouch in the wrestling department, also a NCAA Division I wrestling champ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Koscheck

Thing is these wrestlers get in there and think they can throw bombs all night and knock people out. Maybe if they actually used their wrestling to their full advantage instead of trying to be Clubber Lang then they might make St Pierre look silly for a change. I predict Hendricks goes in there and throws his left all night and ends up wrestlefucked himself just like Diaz.

this pretty much sums it up right there.

JustDaveXxx 11-14-2013 01:03 PM

It will be a good fight either way.

Hendricks TKO in the 2nd or Frenchi in a decision.


Just Dave

Jman 11-14-2013 01:08 PM

Go George St-Poutine!!!!!!!

edgeprod 11-14-2013 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SlammedMedia (Post 19873265)
Does anyone know if you can bet on single fights anywhere online?

I will cover a $1,000 straight-up bet if you reply by 5pm EDT on Friday November 14, 2013.

Payment via PayPal or in person at Internext.

DAMNMAN 11-14-2013 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 19873296)
He has faced supposed better wrestlers / grapplers before and always made them look silly. It'll be another 5 round wrestlefuck with neither man doing any major damage and St Pierre pulling off a unanimous decision like always. Then I wouldn't be surprised if you seen him retire.


What he said!!!

RevSand 11-14-2013 01:35 PM

I have Johny in 3. I think he will get a good left or two in then submit GSP on the ground.

SlammedMedia 11-14-2013 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19873420)
I will cover a $1,000 straight-up bet if you reply by 5pm EDT on Friday November 14, 2013.

Payment via PayPal or in person at Internext.

Friday the 14th huh?

PR_Glen 11-14-2013 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19873420)
I will cover a $1,000 straight-up bet if you reply by 5pm EDT on Friday November 14, 2013.

Payment via PayPal or in person at Internext.

a straight up bet for whom? He didn't even say who'd he'd bet on...

new money or what?

SlammedMedia 11-14-2013 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19873420)
I will cover a $1,000 straight-up bet if you reply by 5pm EDT on Friday November 14, 2013.

Payment via PayPal or in person at Internext.


Just to confirm, by a $1000 straight-up bet, do you mean you'd pay me $1000 if St. Pierre lost?

SlammedMedia 11-14-2013 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 19873375)
Koscheck was no slouch in the wrestling department, also a NCAA Division I wrestling champ.


and Hendricks beat him.

AllAboutCams 11-14-2013 02:07 PM

Georges St Pierre 1.33
Johny Hendricks 3.30

Georges St Pierre By KO 7.50
Georges St Pierre By Submission 11.00
Georges St Pierre By Decision 1.60
Johny Hendricks By KO 3.75
Johny Hendricks By Submission 17.00
Johny Hendricks By Decision 11.00

Georges St Pierre By KO or Submission 6.00
Georges St Pierre By KO or Decision 1.44
Georges St Pierre By Submission or Decision 1.50
Johny Hendricks By KO or Submission 3.25
Johny Hendricks By KO or Decision 2.95
Johny Hendricks By Submission or Decision 8.00

Georges St Pierre In Round 1 11.00
Georges St Pierre In Round 2 15.00
Georges St Pierre In Round 3 21.00
Georges St Pierre In Round 4 27.00
Georges St Pierre In Round 5 33.00
Georges St Pierre By Decision 1.60
Johny Hendricks In Round 1 6.50
Johny Hendricks In Round 2 13.00
Johny Hendricks In Round 3 17.00
Johny Hendricks In Round 4 23.00
Johny Hendricks In Round 5 29.00
Johny Hendricks By Decision 11.00
Fight Drawn 51.00

Over 4.5 Rounds 1.53
Under 4.5 Rounds 2.35

MrBottomTooth 11-14-2013 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SlammedMedia (Post 19873497)
and Hendricks beat him.

If I remember correctly that was a very close split decision, and some people even felt kos was robbed. When st pierre faced koscheck he humiliated him for 5 rounds and mangled his eye so bad he couldnt see out of it and put him out of commission for 6 months.

georgeyw 11-14-2013 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 19873375)
Koscheck was no slouch in the wrestling department, also a NCAA Division I wrestling champ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Koscheck

Thing is these wrestlers get in there and think they can throw bombs all night and knock people out. Maybe if they actually used their wrestling to their full advantage instead of trying to be Clubber Lang then they might make St Pierre look silly for a change. I predict Hendricks goes in there and throws his left all night and ends up wrestlefucked himself just like Diaz.

Was just about to post Josh too. That cocky fucker was in St Pierre's face for so long and he was severely fucked up by jabs. Cracked his eye socket from memory.

GSP for the win and good luck to him if he retires after that. I find him to be one of the only fighters who has his ego in check.

iwiiiiiiiiii 11-14-2013 02:21 PM

My heart is with GSP, nonetheless it should be a great fight and the winner will just deserve it. I like Hendricks too, and I so fucking can wait for that 167!!!

edgeprod 11-14-2013 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SlammedMedia (Post 19873465)
Friday the 14th huh?

Haha, I'm not good with dates.


Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19873473)
a straight up bet for whom? He didn't even say who'd he'd bet on...

new money or what?

I swear sometimes you just pretend to be slow in order to troll. :winkwink: You act like it's $25k, LOL.


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Originally Posted by SlammedMedia (Post 19873475)
Just to confirm, by a $1000 straight-up bet, do you mean you'd pay me $1000 if St. Pierre lost?

And you'd pay me $1,000 if St. Pierre wins. Straight up, no side bets, no types of finishes, etc. Bet is yours if you want it, I personally think Hendricks has a great shot, and putting a small bet on it makes it more interesting to watch.

SlammedMedia 11-14-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19873537)
And you'd pay me $1,000 if St. Pierre wins. Straight up, no side bets, no types of finishes, etc. Bet is yours if you want it, I personally think Hendricks has a great shot, and putting a small bet on it makes it more interesting to watch.

I'd like to, but it makes no sense for me to bet with you, when I could put up $1000 on Hendricks on SuperBook and walk away with $1800 net.

edgeprod 11-14-2013 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SlammedMedia (Post 19873541)
I'd like to, but it makes no sense for me to bet with you, when I could put up $1000 on Hendricks on SuperBook and walk away with $1800 net.

So no? I just like to bet with people I know, not some sportsbook. I understand, though. If it's because the bet is too small, we can do $5k, I just need to know today.

SlammedMedia 11-14-2013 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19873546)
So no? I just like to bet with people I know, not some sportsbook. I understand, though. If it's because the bet is too small, we can do $5k, I just need to know today.

No lol, it's not because it's too small, it's because it doesn't make sense for me.

edgeprod 11-14-2013 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SlammedMedia (Post 19873558)
No lol, it's not because it's too small, it's because it doesn't make sense for me.

No worries, man! Good luck with the sportsbook.

Jim_Gunn 11-14-2013 05:24 PM

I watched the three-part Primetime show with GSP & Hendricks. No way GSP is retiring win or lose. He just invested in a full size cage for Tri-Star gym in Montreal. His head coach said he was mis-quoted on that retirement rumor.

In any case GSP appears to be takings Hendricks very seriously. I predict a GSP win, by decision most likely. I've been wanting to start betting MMA since I keep track of my picks in a spreadsheet for every card recently and I usually get like 8 out of 13 correct or 7 out of 11 correct for example.

I've been looking at the online sports books, 5Dimes.eu looks like the most popular book online for U.S. citizens with the best odds. I don't want this kind of money going through my Bank of America visa debit card so I'm probably going to courier them a money order at some point.

edgeprod 11-14-2013 06:23 PM

The key to MMA betting is similar to other sports: don't bet the whole card, bet the fights that you think the oddsmakers have wrong, and you have an edge.

Jim_Gunn 11-14-2013 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19873780)
The key to MMA betting is similar to other sports: don't bet the whole card, bet the fights that you think the oddsmakers have wrong, and you have an edge.

I'm relatively new to MMA betting but that makes sense. It's also important to note that the odds always vary between different sports books and even at different times at the same sports book. For example, today GSP is anywhere between -312 down to -220 at several different major online sports books right now. The odds fluctuate quite a bit week to week and sometimes day to day. And especially as it gets closer to a fight I believe they tend to even out for both sides, meaning heavy favorites become less heavy favorites and heavy underdogs become quite a bit less so. So if you really believe in an underdog fighter, it often pays to lock in the generous rates early before the oddsmakers come to their senses as the masses make their feelings known with their bets.

edgeprod 11-14-2013 09:15 PM

The odds are affected by the action on a particular fighter, as well as the actual chance of a specific outcome. By successfully deciding which bets are "value" bets, you can maximize your gains and mitigate some of your losses. Same with football, which is a profitable bet for a lot of guys here.

Jim_Gunn 11-14-2013 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19873857)
The odds are affected by the action on a particular fighter, as well as the actual chance of a specific outcome. By successfully deciding which bets are "value" bets, you can maximize your gains and mitigate some of your losses. Same with football, which is a profitable bet for a lot of guys here.

Which online sports book do you use or like for MMA if you use one? Unfortunately I don't live in Vegas so have to play online.

HerPimp 11-15-2013 01:28 AM

Greasy st pierre will win by a decision. He will do his best to tie him up and land soft shots to win the rounds.

ManicaMark 11-15-2013 01:32 AM

My money is firmly on St. Pierre even though I know it's going to be a total WAR!
Also looking forward to Rashad Evans Vs Sonnen

Jim_Gunn 11-15-2013 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ManicaMark (Post 19873945)
My money is firmly on St. Pierre even though I know it's going to be a total WAR!
Also looking forward to Rashad Evans Vs Sonnen

I like Chael over Rashad this time at +160.

edgeprod 11-15-2013 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 19873905)
Which online sports book do you use or like for MMA if you use one? Unfortunately I don't live in Vegas so have to play online.

I don't use them -- been fucked too many times by those shady things. I like to bet with friends; makes it more exciting and personal. Plus, you can make a $1,000 or a $500 bet with a friend and not be laughed at for "playing peanuts", unlike at many sports books. I've been in lines where they've yelled out "anyone under $5,000, get out of line and move to window 7" etc. Not much tolerance for small-timers like me.

AllAboutCams 11-15-2013 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19874174)
I don't use them -- been fucked too many times by those shady things. I like to bet with friends; makes it more exciting and personal. Plus, you can make a $1,000 or a $500 bet with a friend and not be laughed at for "playing peanuts", unlike at many sports books. I've been in lines where they've yelled out "anyone under $5,000, get out of line and move to window 7" etc. Not much tolerance for small-timers like me.

Where the fuck do you go to bet?

Paul 11-15-2013 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 19873296)
He has faced supposed better wrestlers / grapplers before and always made them look silly. It'll be another 5 round wrestlefuck with neither man doing any major damage and St Pierre pulling off a unanimous decision like always. Then I wouldn't be surprised if you seen him retire.

Exactly :2 cents:

I'm hoping Hendrix can connect with a knockout punch in the first 30 seconds though. He leaves himself far too open to attack but the guys is entertaining to watch!

GSP is the most boring fighter in UFC history and I'd love to see anyone take his title!

Paul 11-15-2013 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 19873516)
I find him to be one of the only fighters who has his ego in check.

That's a very good point! Credit where it's due!

Evil Chris 11-15-2013 09:46 AM

If anyone can beat GSP, it's Hendricks. Hard to take a side here.

edgeprod 11-15-2013 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AllAboutCams (Post 19874175)
Where the fuck do you go to bet?

Online sportsbooks are the ones that fuck me, and OTC/electronic sportsbooks are the ones who look down their nose at the small-timers, in my experience.

Jim_Gunn 11-15-2013 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19874225)
Online sportsbooks are the ones that fuck me, and OTC/electronic sportsbooks are the ones who look down their nose at the small-timers, in my experience.

I wish I had a local casino with a sportsbook that could look down their nose at my $1000 bet. I'd just put my wager in early in the day when hardly anyone was there and go home. Those of you in Vegas or other cities with full service casinos are lucky. Which online sportsbook ripped you off? I read a ton of reviews online and 5Dimes.eu and Bovada.lv seem to be the best reviewed for U.S. players.

edgeprod 11-15-2013 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 19874443)
I wish I had a local casino with a sportsbook that could look down their nose at my $1000 bet. I'd just put my wager in early in the day when hardly anyone was there and go home. Those of you in Vegas or other cities with full service casinos are lucky. Which online sportsbook ripped you off? I read a ton of reviews online and 5Dimes.eu and Bovada.lv seem to be the best reviewed for U.S. players.

I've had a couple of bad experiences with online sportsbooks. One closed to U.S. bettors, and took all of the money in the account. Another failed to pay out on wins, but sure as shit took the money for the losses. Chalked it up to glitches. Another one decided that certain fights were "ineligible" for payouts because there wasn't enough action in the fight (I didn't even know this was a thing).

Biggest loss I took was when Bradley took out Pacquiao (I had bets on it going to the distance, and in Bradley winning) -- the sportsbook invalidated the bets because they felt the judge's decision was B.S. ... well, no shit, but still, they should have been paid out.

I also took a hit on JDS beating Cain for the Heavyweight championship, where the sportsbook decided that "US players violates our rules" and even told my bank I was making bets. The bank closed the account, too. :disgust

I'm not a fan of the online books, it's a risk. But I'm still open to $1,000 on GSP if anyone wants that action. Just let me know in the next hour or two.

fuzebox 11-15-2013 09:35 PM

Books will also adjust lines to even out their action. They don't lose money no matter which side wins.

Jim_Gunn 11-15-2013 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 19874492)

I'm not a fan of the online books, it's a risk. But I'm still open to $1,000 on GSP if anyone wants that action. Just let me know in the next hour or two.

Holy fuck, those are five outright cases of fraud and/or stealing bettor's money. Why won't you name each of the sports books that did that? Were they some rinky dink places? The major ones that advertise for U.S. players and get the most action are usually backed by brick and mortar concerns and have reputations to uphold in the gaming community so I would be surprised to hear any of them did that.

Spunky 11-15-2013 10:58 PM

Go Georges,but everybody falls now and then..could be this time.

BaliPimp 11-16-2013 05:55 AM

I think Hendricks knocks him out before the end of the 2nd round. Guy hits too hard and can wrestle like a mofo. Pound for pound the most dangerous fighter out there.

x-rate 11-16-2013 07:51 AM

Every fight we see people writing that GSP will loose because the opponent have 'this or that' much better than GSP.... I remember lot of people saying that Alves would beat GSP because he was punching much harder like it's seem Hendricks will do tonight....

Gonna believe it when I'll see it! :)


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