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wehateporn 11-16-2013 05:39 PM

Russia to Ban US Dollar as it's a 'Ponzi Scheme' due for collapse in 2017?
 
Russian lawmaker seeks to ban US dollar, predicts 2017 collapse


Full Story http://rt.com/business/russian-lawmaker-dollar-ban-663/

"To protect Russians against the ?collapsing US debt pyramid?, a Russian legislator has filed a draft bill to ban circulation of the currency in Russia.

Once a Moscow mayoral hopeful, Mikhail Degtyarev, 32, likens the US dollar to a worldwide ponzi scheme which he says is scheduled to end in 2017.

?If US national debt continues to grow at its current rate, the dollar system will collapse in 2017,? the submitted draft legislation says.

?In light of this, the fact that confidence in the US dollar is growing among Russian citizens is extremely dangerous,? Degtyarev wrote in his explanatory note attached to the bill.

The bill would impose a ban on dollars within a year of its passage, and any private citizen holding accounts in dollars would either need to spend the money or convert it to another currency. There is no proposed ban on the euro, British pound, yen, or yuan.

If one doesn?t exchange or transfer dollars within a year, the dollars will be seized by officials, and reimbursed in rubles within 30 calendar days.

Under the proposed legislation, Russians would still be able to use dollars abroad and have foreign bank accounts, as well as buy goods on the Internet in dollars.

The Russian government, Central Bank, Foreign Ministry, Federal Treasury, Federal Security Service, and other state branches would be exempt from the law.

To protect Russian nationals, Degtyarev proposes to end dollar transactions and deposits at Russian banks, which would give rise to the ruble, and end dependence on the world?s dominant currency.

Part of the bill aims to restore the prestige of the ruble, which has weakened as the Russian economy battles inflation and slow growth.

Raising the prestige of the ruble by nixing foreign currency isn?t a novel idea- it was practiced during the Soviet Union when holding foreign currencies was illegal. A similar ?anti-dollar? proposal was filed by Duma deputies in 2003, but completely flopped.

Moscow, a developing financial center, is home to several international corporations, and many companies pay their employees in dollars, or ruble salaries pegged to the dollar.

If the bill garners enough support, it will continue onto as many as three preliminary hearings before being passed into law.

Degtyarev has made a name for himself with his outlandish proposals- from giving women extra holidays during menstruation, to his declaration Russia would lead the fight in defeating the antichrist. He serves as the head of the science and technology committee in the lower house of the Duma.

The populist Liberal Democratic Party (LDPR) is a political platform for Vladimir Zhirinovsky, who is famous for political antics and outlandish bills.

On the same day, November 13, Belarus issued a statement denying rumors they were mulling a similar currency ban, after an opposition group reported a currency circulation ban that would get rid of dollars and euros in two months.

Citing Alexander Timoshenko, a representative of the Belarus?s National Bank, Interfax reported the rumors were ?absolute nonsense? for a country with an open economy."

Story continued http://rt.com/business/russian-lawmaker-dollar-ban-663/

Mr. Garibaldi 11-16-2013 05:40 PM

nobody will ban shit, stfu

DutchTrafficService 11-16-2013 05:42 PM

Good move if they do this.

crockett 11-16-2013 05:45 PM

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The Russian government, Central Bank, Foreign Ministry, Federal Treasury, Federal Security Service, and other state branches would be exempt from the law.

In other words that are just trying to pump up the stumbling rubble, by forcing their people to use it..

DutchTrafficService 11-16-2013 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19875453)
In other words that are just trying to pump up the stumbling rubble, by forcing their people to use it..


How are they not 100% correct by stating the us dollar is a ponzy scheme? :error

The state the US is in right now is a total clusterfuck, if only just Japan or China decides to offload some US debt, the US is in total anarchy by tomorrow.

wehateporn 11-16-2013 06:00 PM

Business idea for MrDeiz, think of a new Ponzi scheme for Russian webmasters to be paid in, needs to be ready by 2017 :thumbsup :2 cents:

$5 submissions 11-16-2013 06:01 PM

Everytime the Dow hits a new high, the realization kicks in that the crash might get even more painful :(

wehateporn 11-16-2013 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Garibaldi (Post 19875445)
nobody will ban shit, stfu

Sometimes stuff does get banned, even I got banned once :2 cents:

wehateporn 11-16-2013 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService (Post 19875447)
Good move if they do this.

US will be even more pissed about their NGO's getting kicked out of Moscow, they wanted to bring 'Democracy' to Russia and put their own puppet in charge. There will be a Plan B, surely Putin will be assassinated to save the $ Ponzi Scheme :2 cents:

wehateporn 11-16-2013 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19875453)
In other words that are just trying to pump up the stumbling rubble, by forcing their people to use it..

Bit of this too, a lot of this, but at the same time the US $ is a Ponzi Scheme :2 cents:

wehateporn 11-16-2013 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 19875467)
Everytime the Dow hits a new high, the realization kicks in that the crash might get even more painful :(

Wealth Transfer :2 cents:

crockett 11-16-2013 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService (Post 19875454)
How are they not 100% correct by stating the us dollar is a ponzy scheme? :error

The state the US is in right now is a total clusterfuck, if only just Japan or China decides to offload some US debt, the US is in total anarchy by tomorrow.

If China or Japan decided to offload debit, they would be in just as much or more trouble than the us. Both depend on a good us economy to survive.

wehateporn 11-16-2013 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService (Post 19875454)
The state the US is in right now is a total clusterfuck, if only just Japan or China decides to offload some US debt, the US is in total anarchy by tomorrow.

Would need to set off some nukes or something :upsidedow

directfiesta 11-16-2013 06:10 PM

Anybody/country that tries to ''leave'' the usage of the US$ either gets invaded and/or its head of state killed :2 cents:

DutchTrafficService 11-16-2013 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 19875483)
Anybody/country that tries to ''leave'' the usage of the US$ either gets invaded and/or its head of state killed :2 cents:

I want to see the US invade half of the world when they decide to dump the dollar...because there will be a point when enough is enough, the dollar is steadily losing it's status as a reserve currency for the last few years already, which is accelerating as we speak.

DTK 11-16-2013 06:16 PM

edit: self-ownage

DutchTrafficService 11-16-2013 06:21 PM

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YTyPGaEsBc....%2BDollar.jpg

wehateporn 11-16-2013 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19875495)
Wehateporn - this is the problem with many of your posts. You start with this inflammatory title "Russia to Ban US Dollar blah blah" as if it's occurring now. Then it turns out that a Russian legislator has filed a draft bill

You do this shit a lot. While you do post some thought-provoking stuff from time to time, this kind of hyperbolic crap doesn't help.

Look closer for the '?' at the end of the title :2 cents:

DTK 11-16-2013 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19875505)
Look closer for the '?' at the end of the title :2 cents:

I appropriately edited my post :winkwink:, but it is something I've seen you do.

wehateporn 11-16-2013 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19875517)
I appropriately edited my post :winkwink:, but it is something I've seen you do.

I generally copy the title of the video/article, though maybe there has been an odd case where I've knowingly misrepresented information, not sure off the top of my head (if it did happen I must have been bored) :2 cents: :thumbsup

mineistaken 11-16-2013 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19875470)
surely Putin will be assassinated to save the $ Ponzi Scheme :2 cents:

Too bad we have to wait until 2017 to confirm that another one of your predictions were wrong.

wehateporn 11-16-2013 06:39 PM

YouTube feeding me this, chap says $ dead by 2020


wehateporn 11-16-2013 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19875531)
Too bad we have to wait until 2017 to confirm that another one of your predictions were wrong.

Putin is a hard man to assassinate, anyone can know that the banker's want him dead, that's not up for debate, the question is will they succeed? :2 cents:

DWB 11-16-2013 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19875531)
Too bad we have to wait until 2017 to confirm that another one of your predictions were wrong.

Even Stevie Wonder can see a US currency collapse in the somewhat near future. It is literally going to take a miracle for it not to happen. Mathematically, what they are doing is unsustainable.

Deputy Chief Command 11-16-2013 06:51 PM

how long till the UK stops using the pound and starts using the EURO ?

wehateporn 11-16-2013 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command (Post 19875546)
how long till the UK stops using the pound and starts using the EURO ?

When it no longer benefits the powers that be, at the moment they like having the £ as they can manipulate it for easy profit :2 cents:

directfiesta 11-16-2013 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command (Post 19875546)
how long till the UK stops using the pound and starts using the EURO ?

the day they drive on the right side of the road :2 cents:

DTK 11-16-2013 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command (Post 19875546)
how long till the UK stops using the pound and starts using the EURO ?

We had a British speaker at Econ class one day. According to him, the british people said "no fucking way" (my words lol) because they were fucked in a devaluation scheme in 1992. Thus, they were wary of any currency-type moves.

mineistaken 11-16-2013 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19875543)
Even Stevie Wonder can see a US currency collapse in the somewhat near future. It is literally going to take a miracle for it not to happen. Mathematically, what they are doing is unsustainable.

I was talking about Putin assassination, not about dollar collapse.

tony286 11-16-2013 08:12 PM

Its like this internet fantasy the dollar isnt going anywhere.

DutchTrafficService 11-16-2013 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19875610)
Its like this internet fantasy the dollar isnt going anywhere.

:1orglaugh

It's a mathematical fact, sorry. :error

bronco67 11-16-2013 08:23 PM

If anyone knows a scam, it Russia -- so I believe it.

L-Pink 11-16-2013 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService (Post 19875447)
Good move if they do this.

You're an idiot.

DutchTrafficService 11-16-2013 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19875630)
You're an idiot.

Good argument, wouldn't expect anything else from such an "exceptional" american like you. :thumbsup

L-Pink 11-16-2013 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DutchTrafficService (Post 19875634)
Good argument, wouldn't expect anything else from such an "exceptional" american like you. :thumbsup

Take your anti-American bullshit somewhere else.

Only a fucking idiot would come to this forum with your comments. Like one of the most successful posters here pointed out to your stupid ass, "Don't shit where you eat"

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DutchTrafficService 11-16-2013 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19875642)
Take your anti-American bullshit somewhere else.

Only a fucking idiot would come to this forum with your comments. Like one of the most successful posters here pointed out to your stupid ass, "Don't shit where you eat"

.

Yet another masterpiece :thumbsup

And about your "don't shit where you eat", i'm not a "bro-licker" here, i don't need anyone here, nor do i need to sell anything to anyone, i can save myself just fine, thank you. :thumbsup

DWB 11-17-2013 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19875576)
I was talking about Putin assassination, not about dollar collapse.

Ah. Then I would agree with you.

Markul 11-17-2013 05:22 AM

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