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ctggls 11-25-2013 05:05 AM

For the Obama lovers - see these articles
 
It seems the he and his administration made it quite bad for the Americans

http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...-the-recession

And the Obamacare of course

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2013/11/how-obamacare-undermines-american-values-penalizing-work-marriage-citizenship-and-the-disabled?utm_source=heritagefoundation&utm_medium= heritagefoundation&utm_term=homepage&utm_campaign= headline3_131121

bronco67 11-25-2013 08:13 AM

How about some info from an actual news site, and not a propaganda group....

adendreams 11-25-2013 08:18 AM

wow you must be the biggest dumbfuck walking planet earth to come in here and post "info" from the hate group known as the "Heritage Foundation"

They are barely any better than the Westboro Baptist Church

sperbonzo 11-25-2013 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 19885064)
wow you must be the biggest dumbfuck walking planet earth to come in here and post "info" from the hate group known as the "Heritage Foundation"

They are barely any better than the Westboro Baptist Church

Seriously? They certainly have a point of view, as do all think tanks, right, left, or otherwise, but to call them a "Hate group" is just bizarre. Living inside your brain must be a morass of slogans and tiny slits through which you perceive the world. Anyone with a differing point of view, no matter how intellectually and academically accomplished, is now a "hate group"?

You must spend all your time just despising EVERYONE! LOL. How exhausting....:1orglaugh



Meanwhile.... here is in an opinion piece that is definitely punchy.... Wow.....

http://nypost.com/2013/11/24/obama-h...tured-america/

Obama has no hope to fix fractured America

By Michael Goodwin

As he climbed the political heap, a young Barack Obama roused audiences with promises to unite the nation. He was a Senate candidate in 2004 when he told the Democratic national convention, ?There is not a liberal America and a conservative America. There is a United States of America.?

In 2007, he declared early in his presidential run that ?I don?t want to pit red America against blue America. I want to be the president of the United States of America.?

A year later, after he won the Iowa caucus, he promised, ?We are not a collection of red states and blue states. We are the United States of America.?

And on the November night in 2008 when he was elected president, he insisted his victory proved ?we have never been just a collection of individuals or a collection of red states and blue states. We are, and always will be, the United States of America.?

Oh, well, that was then. Reading those ?yes we can? speeches now is like gawking at museum relics. Obama?s promise to heal a polarized nation has proven to be as big a lie as his promise that you can keep your health insurance.

America is now so divided and demoralized that there is no hope Obama can fix it. As last week proved, he doesn?t even pretend to try any more.

On the same day that he supported his party?s move to neuter Republican power in the Senate by restricting the filibuster, 37 news organizations complained that the White House was acting like the haSoviet Union in manipulating public opinion.

Journalists argued that Obama aides block news photographers from official events, then use government workers to take pictures and videos of him for social-media sites.

?This is just like Tass,? a New York Times photographer told his paper, referring to the Soviet propaganda arm. ?It?s like government-controlled use of the public image of the president.?

Meanwhile, Obama met with a gaggle of far-left pundits to drum up support as he battles record-low polls.

The developments are snapshots in the collapse of a presidency.

More and more people are realizing that Obama?s idea of unity is that everybody must agree with him, and that he has no tolerance for those who don?t. Yet he haresponds to this awakening by hadigging himself deeper into a partisan hole. Step away from the shovel, Mr. President.

Historians, I believe, will conclude that his refusal to roll up his sleeves and honestly engage critics was a character flaw that morphed into a political strategy. Despite the flowery promises to unite the country, or maybe because of them, he boxed himself into a pose of being above politics. His aggrandizing self-regard and contempt for others leaves him incapable of routine compromise.

Confronted with problems, he hadefaults to one of two options: total domination or total surrender. The result is that he is a Caesar wannabe at home and a Chamberlain abroad. As he stiff-arms Republicans and most of the media, he seems ready to accept a nuclear-armed Iran.

Even as his support falls below 40 percent and a majority say they don?t trust him, he paints himself as the victim.

He defended his party?s decision to end the long Senate tradition of requiring 60 votes for most appointments by saying Republicans are determined to ?obstruct everything . . . Just to refight the results of an election.?

See, it?s all about him. Never mind that other presidents struggled with the same rules. Never mind that opponents, including some Democrats, have legitimate differences with him and want him to work harder to build a consensus for the good of the country.

And never mind his obvious hahypocrisy on changing the rules. In his first year in the Senate, with the GOP holding the majority, he warned that one-party rule would mean ?the bitterness and the gridlock will only get worse.?

That Barack Obama was a man to admire. He made history by promising to restore Americans? trust in each other and their government.

?I will always be honest with you about the challenges we face. I will listen to you, especially when we disagree,? he vowed on election night in 2008.

Five years later, Americans finally are being honest with themselves.

They now realize that Barack Obama doesn?t exist anymore, if he ever did.




.:helpme

escorpio 11-25-2013 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19885089)
Seriously? They certainly have a point of view, as do all think tanks, right, left, or otherwise, but to call them a "Hate group" is just bizarre. Living inside your brain must be a morass of slogans and tiny slits through which you perceive the world. Anyone with a differing point of view, no matter how intellectually and academically accomplished, is now a "hate group"?

You must spend all your time just despising EVERYONE! LOL. How exhausting....:1orglaugh



Meanwhile.... here is in an opinion piece that is definitely punchy.... Wow.....

http://nypost.com/2013/11/24/obama-h...tured-america/

Obama has no hope to fix fractured America

By Michael Goodwin

As he climbed the political heap, a young Barack Obama roused audiences with promises to unite the nation. He was a Senate candidate in 2004 when he told the Democratic national convention, ?There is not a liberal America and a conservative America. There is a United States of America.?

In 2007, he declared early in his presidential run that ?I don?t want to pit red America against blue America. I want to be the president of the United States of America.?

A year later, after he won the Iowa caucus, he promised, ?We are not a collection of red states and blue states. We are the United States of America.?

And on the November night in 2008 when he was elected president, he insisted his victory proved ?we have never been just a collection of individuals or a collection of red states and blue states. We are, and always will be, the United States of America.?

Oh, well, that was then. Reading those ?yes we can? speeches now is like gawking at museum relics. Obama?s promise to heal a polarized nation has proven to be as big a lie as his promise that you can keep your health insurance.

America is now so divided and demoralized that there is no hope Obama can fix it. As last week proved, he doesn?t even pretend to try any more.

On the same day that he supported his party?s move to neuter Republican power in the Senate by restricting the filibuster, 37 news organizations complained that the White House was acting like the haSoviet Union in manipulating public opinion.

Journalists argued that Obama aides block news photographers from official events, then use government workers to take pictures and videos of him for social-media sites.

?This is just like Tass,? a New York Times photographer told his paper, referring to the Soviet propaganda arm. ?It?s like government-controlled use of the public image of the president.?

Meanwhile, Obama met with a gaggle of far-left pundits to drum up support as he battles record-low polls.

The developments are snapshots in the collapse of a presidency.

More and more people are realizing that Obama?s idea of unity is that everybody must agree with him, and that he has no tolerance for those who don?t. Yet he haresponds to this awakening by hadigging himself deeper into a partisan hole. Step away from the shovel, Mr. President.

Historians, I believe, will conclude that his refusal to roll up his sleeves and honestly engage critics was a character flaw that morphed into a political strategy. Despite the flowery promises to unite the country, or maybe because of them, he boxed himself into a pose of being above politics. His aggrandizing self-regard and contempt for others leaves him incapable of routine compromise.

Confronted with problems, he hadefaults to one of two options: total domination or total surrender. The result is that he is a Caesar wannabe at home and a Chamberlain abroad. As he stiff-arms Republicans and most of the media, he seems ready to accept a nuclear-armed Iran.

Even as his support falls below 40 percent and a majority say they don?t trust him, he paints himself as the victim.

He defended his party?s decision to end the long Senate tradition of requiring 60 votes for most appointments by saying Republicans are determined to ?obstruct everything . . . Just to refight the results of an election.?

See, it?s all about him. Never mind that other presidents struggled with the same rules. Never mind that opponents, including some Democrats, have legitimate differences with him and want him to work harder to build a consensus for the good of the country.

And never mind his obvious hahypocrisy on changing the rules. In his first year in the Senate, with the GOP holding the majority, he warned that one-party rule would mean ?the bitterness and the gridlock will only get worse.?

That Barack Obama was a man to admire. He made history by promising to restore Americans? trust in each other and their government.

?I will always be honest with you about the challenges we face. I will listen to you, especially when we disagree,? he vowed on election night in 2008.

Five years later, Americans finally are being honest with themselves.

They now realize that Barack Obama doesn?t exist anymore, if he ever did.




.:helpme

Hate speech! :waaaaahh

2012 11-25-2013 10:35 AM

Racist !

bronco67 11-25-2013 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19885089)
Seriously? They certainly have a point of view, as do all think tanks, right, left, or otherwise, but to call them a "Hate group" is just bizarre. Living inside your brain must be a morass of slogans and tiny slits through which you perceive the world. Anyone with a differing point of view, no matter how intellectually and academically accomplished, is now a "hate group"?

You must spend all your time just despising EVERYONE! LOL. How exhausting....:1orglaugh



Meanwhile.... here is in an opinion piece that is definitely punchy.... Wow.....

http://nypost.com/2013/11/24/obama-h...tured-america/

Obama has no hope to fix fractured America

By Michael Goodwin

As he climbed the political heap, a young Barack Obama roused audiences with promises to unite the nation. He was a Senate candidate in 2004 when he told the Democratic national convention, ?There is not a liberal America and a conservative America. There is a United States of America.?

In 2007, he declared early in his presidential run that ?I don?t want to pit red America against blue America. I want to be the president of the United States of America.?

A year later, after he won the Iowa caucus, he promised, ?We are not a collection of red states and blue states. We are the United States of America.?

And on the November night in 2008 when he was elected president, he insisted his victory proved ?we have never been just a collection of individuals or a collection of red states and blue states. We are, and always will be, the United States of America.?

Oh, well, that was then. Reading those ?yes we can? speeches now is like gawking at museum relics. Obama?s promise to heal a polarized nation has proven to be as big a lie as his promise that you can keep your health insurance.

America is now so divided and demoralized that there is no hope Obama can fix it. As last week proved, he doesn?t even pretend to try any more.

On the same day that he supported his party?s move to neuter Republican power in the Senate by restricting the filibuster, 37 news organizations complained that the White House was acting like the haSoviet Union in manipulating public opinion.

Journalists argued that Obama aides block news photographers from official events, then use government workers to take pictures and videos of him for social-media sites.

?This is just like Tass,? a New York Times photographer told his paper, referring to the Soviet propaganda arm. ?It?s like government-controlled use of the public image of the president.?

Meanwhile, Obama met with a gaggle of far-left pundits to drum up support as he battles record-low polls.

The developments are snapshots in the collapse of a presidency.

More and more people are realizing that Obama?s idea of unity is that everybody must agree with him, and that he has no tolerance for those who don?t. Yet he haresponds to this awakening by hadigging himself deeper into a partisan hole. Step away from the shovel, Mr. President.

Historians, I believe, will conclude that his refusal to roll up his sleeves and honestly engage critics was a character flaw that morphed into a political strategy. Despite the flowery promises to unite the country, or maybe because of them, he boxed himself into a pose of being above politics. His aggrandizing self-regard and contempt for others leaves him incapable of routine compromise.

Confronted with problems, he hadefaults to one of two options: total domination or total surrender. The result is that he is a Caesar wannabe at home and a Chamberlain abroad. As he stiff-arms Republicans and most of the media, he seems ready to accept a nuclear-armed Iran.

Even as his support falls below 40 percent and a majority say they don?t trust him, he paints himself as the victim.

He defended his party?s decision to end the long Senate tradition of requiring 60 votes for most appointments by saying Republicans are determined to ?obstruct everything . . . Just to refight the results of an election.?

See, it?s all about him. Never mind that other presidents struggled with the same rules. Never mind that opponents, including some Democrats, have legitimate differences with him and want him to work harder to build a consensus for the good of the country.

And never mind his obvious hahypocrisy on changing the rules. In his first year in the Senate, with the GOP holding the majority, he warned that one-party rule would mean ?the bitterness and the gridlock will only get worse.?

That Barack Obama was a man to admire. He made history by promising to restore Americans? trust in each other and their government.

?I will always be honest with you about the challenges we face. I will listen to you, especially when we disagree,? he vowed on election night in 2008.

Five years later, Americans finally are being honest with themselves.

They now realize that Barack Obama doesn?t exist anymore, if he ever did.




.:helpme

Another propaganda piece. NYPOST is not news. It's FOX news in paper form.

2012 11-25-2013 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19885217)
Another propaganda piece. NYPOST is not news. It's FOX news in paper form.

What "news" do you watch/read/listen to hmmmm ? Or what "news" do you feel is valid "news". I want to be well informed :thumbsup No "news" is good "news".

adendreams 11-25-2013 10:42 AM

Sperbonz - how you can look at a group like the Heritage Foundation and see anything but an all out racist fear mongering lying despicable hate group - that is funded by the Koch Bros - they are anti-gay, anti-women, anti-poor, anti-worker, anti ANYTHING except straight rich white people...dude you must live in a constant Fox News bubble.

They represent everything that is fucked up with this nation..and yes they are just one small step above Westboro - I wouldnt be surprised if they FUND Westboro.

And you think I spend my time despising everyone? Wrong sir..my biggest project right now is a humanitarian mission. You have no fucking clue what I do. I help people in need - what the fuck to you do Mr. "Keep you your dirty brown hands off my property" -Libertarian Credo windbag :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You have the NERVE to come in here and cite an article from the filthy smear and lie RAG the NY POST???

Seriously man...the NY Post. Holy shit you are brainwashed beyond belief.

Minte 11-25-2013 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19885217)
Another propaganda piece. NYPOST is not news. It's FOX news in paper form.

So what part of it isn't true?

slapass 11-25-2013 10:51 AM

I find it odd that anyone cannot see that the USA is getting better. Obama or not the USA is getting stronger. So why read a lengthy piece that denies what you can see and feel in the economy? BTW does anyone love Obama? Or even like the guy? Name the last president you would have wanted to have a beer with? Clinton, maybe.

ilnjscb 11-25-2013 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 19885219)
Sperbonz - how you can look at a group like the Heritage Foundation and see anything but an all out racist fear mongering lying despicable hate group - that is funded by the Koch Bros - they are anti-gay, anti-women, anti-poor, anti-worker, anti ANYTHING except straight rich white people...dude you must live in a constant Fox News bubble.

They represent everything that is fucked up with this nation..and yes they are just one small step above Westboro - I wouldnt be surprised if they FUND Westboro.

And you think I spend my time despising everyone? Wrong sir..my biggest project right now is a humanitarian mission. You have no fucking clue what I do. I help people in need - what the fuck to you do Mr. "Keep you your dirty brown hands off my property" -Libertarian Credo windbag

They really aren't. I'd suggest you are just buying the hype. They have an opinion that leans heavy "right" but they are far from a hate group. For instance, they don't advocate for the death of any given race and there are plenty of those. Just because they frame an opinion that is different from yours (and mine) doesn't mean we need to fall victim to the other side of the pendulum.

2012 11-25-2013 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19885224)
So what part of it isn't true?

I don't think they know. They've been effectively programmed to respond negatively to anything that isn't a state sponsored narrative.

http://media.boreme.com/post_media/2...gic-carpet.jpg

adendreams 11-25-2013 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19885224)
So what part of it isn't true?

Ok so sure enough here comes Minte - the second worst right wing fox brainwash victim on GFY... what part isn't true????

Try this you low life:

"They now realize that Barack Obama doesn?t exist anymore, if he ever did."

sperbonzo 11-25-2013 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 19885219)
Sperbonz - how you can look at a group like the Heritage Foundation and see anything but an all out racist fear mongering lying despicable hate group - that is funded by the Koch Bros - they are anti-gay, anti-women, anti-poor, anti-worker, anti ANYTHING except straight rich white people...dude you must live in a constant Fox News bubble.

They represent everything that is fucked up with this nation..and yes they are just one small step above Westboro - I wouldnt be surprised if they FUND Westboro.

And you think I spend my time despising everyone? Wrong sir..my biggest project right now is a humanitarian mission. You have no fucking clue what I do. I help people in need - what the fuck to you do Mr. "Keep you your dirty brown hands off my property" -Libertarian Credo windbag :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You have the NERVE to come in here and cite an article from the filthy smear and lie RAG the NY POST???

Seriously man...the NY Post. Holy shit you are brainwashed beyond belief.

Thank you for that, you're hilarious!!!



:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


(p.s., did you notice that I titled the NY post article as an "opinion piece")



I wonder if you ever read your own posts and realize how ironic and funny they are... It's AWESOME!


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh



Thanks again! :thumbsup:)




.

ctggls 11-25-2013 11:07 AM

I just love when I see all these Obama lovers brainwashed and incapable of reading the actual facts. If someone would take the time to read the articles you'll see that are well documented facts.

Obama's group starts to feel more and more like our corrupt and incapable EU politicians and Russia's communists.

I really though that USA was going to push the world forward to prosperity but it seems that with Obama is just turning into more lies. I don't think it's really one man's fault but the way Obama tells lies could make some EU officials really feel like small babies.

Better watch out USA , while you think it's ok and the economy is growing you may end just like the old EU : poor, broke and divided by the "we-know-what-is-right-for-you" politicians.

adendreams 11-25-2013 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19885237)
Thank you for that, you're hilarious!!!



:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


(p.s., did you notice that I titled the NY post article as an "opinion piece")



I wonder if you ever read your own posts and realize how ironic and funny they are... It's AWESOME!


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh



Thanks again! :thumbsup:)




.

wow - for a normally smart and articulate guy...you seem to be coming unglued...

that last post with all the giggles is just bizarre man. You have no reasoned logic to refute anything so you pretend to be entertained by my all out assault on your ideology, your very fabric of existence.

Yes I saw that you said "opinion piece" - if you post an opinion piece from a discredited rag like the NYPost (that are used more as toilet paper for the homeless than actually read) then that means you are putting credibility in them and aligning your self with garbage. Expect some mud slung when you cite such a worthless publication.

http://i.imgur.com/aJtcAQb.png

Minte 11-25-2013 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 19885235)
Ok so sure enough here comes Minte - the second worst right wing fox brainwash victim on GFY... what part isn't true????

Try this you low life:

"They now realize that Barack Obama doesn?t exist anymore, if he ever did."

You must work for Amazon, right?

Amazon workers face 'increased risk of mental illness'

adendreams 11-25-2013 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctggls (Post 19885253)
I just love when I see all these Obama lovers brainwashed and incapable of reading the actual facts. If someone would take the time to read the articles you'll see that are well documented facts.

You are far too uninformed to debate with, and if youre not in the US why would you think your opinion matters to any of us... you apparently don't even know who is behind the Heritage Foundation and you confused it with real news - but any "facts" in those articles are absolute slanted garbage...and graphs in those articles don't show anything except the negative spin they want you to see - and also don't take into account the freefall nose dive wreckage that Bush handed off to Obama.

You know nothing about this country or it's economy - you dont even know what a real news agency is. You're excused.

adendreams 11-25-2013 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19885325)
You must work for Amazon, right?

Amazon workers face 'increased risk of mental illness'

This is an incredibly hypocritical statement from someone as anti-worker, anti-union, pro Scott Walker as yourself.

This Amazon shit is the exact reason people like you shouldn't be allowed to run companies and donate large sums of monies to elect politicians who will make it possible for worker conditions like these.

Minte 11-25-2013 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 19885333)
This is an incredibly hypocritical statement from someone as anti-worker, anti-union, pro Scott Walker as yourself.

This Amazon shit is the exact reason people like you shouldn't be allowed to run companies and donate large sums of monies to elect politicians who will make it possible for worker conditions like these.

I'm anti-union. The people that work for me don't want a union. They are paid competitively, have better than average benefits and work their shift in a safe and pleasant environment. Last year we gave 2 across the board raises and the largest Christmas bonuses we ever gave.
This year we doubled the bonus.

There is a precise reason why people like me do run companies. You'd not understand even if it were explained. So you are excused.

adendreams 11-25-2013 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19885338)
I'm anti-union. The people that work for me don't want a union. They are paid competitively, have better than average benefits and work their shift in a safe and pleasant environment. Last year we gave 2 across the board raises and the largest Christmas bonuses we ever gave.
This year we doubled the bonus.

There is a precise reason why people like me do run companies. You'd not understand even if it were explained. So you are excused.

I believe you probably treat your workers well..although I may look into it to see for myself...just for fun.

And your statement that your workers don't want a union is based on...what exactly?

However if you support Scott Walker you are directly supporting the policies that allow Amazon to treat workers atrociously.

Minte 11-25-2013 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 19885372)
I believe you probably treat your workers well..although I may look into it to see for myself...just for fun.

And your statement that your workers don't want a union is based on...what exactly?

However if you support Scott Walker you are directly supporting the policies that allow Amazon to treat workers atrociously.

Our employees had two organizers here a few years ago that got hired. They spent weeks trying to entice the employees to unionize. When it came time to vote the only votes *for* were the two union organizers. They both quit without giving notice the same day.

The only thing you need to know about Scott Walker is that he ran on balancing a budget here in Wisconsin. He was subjected to a recall vote based entirely on his neutering the state employee labor unions. He won that recall easily. He didn't do a thing with private unions.
They came to Wisconsin and spent millions trying to get Walker recalled.

And today, We are one of the few states in the nation that has a budget surplus. None of the state union employees lost their jobs. They only now pay out of their own salary what the rest of us here have always paid for.

Go ahead and look into my business if you want,just for fun. I already know everything I need to know about you.

edit: Scott Walker is the governor of a state. He has absolutely no impact or authority over private unions. NONE..

adendreams 11-25-2013 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19885393)
The only thing you need to know about Scott Walker is that he ran on balancing a budget here in Wisconsin. He was subjected to a recall vote based entirely on his neutering the state employee labor unions. He won that recall easily. .

well now I know something about you - you live in bubble and its not clear it's opaque...I wonder how you would feel if you had a public worker job instead of being handed the keys to a company from daddy...

Scott Walker had to have the national far right saved his ass by dumping millions and millions of dollars into a smear campaign that BARELY saved his job - which by the way has a pathetic record as one of the worst in the nation for job creation.

Will be interesting to see where this investigation goes too:
http://host.madison.com/news/local/r...7da64f0f8.html

PornoMonster 11-25-2013 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 19885372)
I believe you probably treat your workers well..although I may look into it to see for myself...just for fun.

And your statement that your workers don't want a union is based on...what exactly?

However if you support Scott Walker you are directly supporting the policies that allow Amazon to treat workers atrociously.

Kind of off topic, but I would like to see this Amazon stuff. Can you please post some links.

I deal (as a worker) with this company, on a big scale and would like to read up on it.

adendreams 11-25-2013 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 19885427)
Kind of off topic, but I would like to see this Amazon stuff. Can you please post some links.

I deal (as a worker) with this company, on a big scale and would like to read up on it.

just google amazon news - its major headlines today

just curious but how does a "worker" deal with them on a big scale?

ctggls 11-25-2013 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 19885327)
You are far too uninformed to debate with, and if youre not in the US why would you think your opinion matters to any of us... you apparently don't even know who is behind the Heritage Foundation and you confused it with real news - but any "facts" in those articles are absolute slanted garbage...and graphs in those articles don't show anything except the negative spin they want you to see - and also don't take into account the freefall nose dive wreckage that Bush handed off to Obama.

You know nothing about this country or it's economy - you dont even know what a real news agency is. You're excused.

If my opinion does not matter why do you comment on my posts... ? Yes, I'm not from the US, I know nothing of the US economy except from what I see in the news

BUT what happens now in the US is kinda of piece-by-piece copy of what happened to EU that made it the ruin that it is now - politicians covering up bad facts under numbers , so they can look good ...

adendreams 11-25-2013 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctggls (Post 19885434)
If my opinion does not matter why do you comment on my posts... ? Yes, I'm not from the US, I know nothing of the US economy except from what I see in the news

BUT what happens now in the US is kinda of piece-by-piece copy of what happened to EU that made it the ruin that it is now - politicians covering up bad facts under numbers , so they can look good ...

You know what GDP is? Well what happened there won't happen here because of it. Example:
249.1 billion USD (2012) Greece
15.68 trillion USD (2012) USA


And what you see in the "News" coming from America...may not be news so careful what you believe.

Minte 11-25-2013 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 19885472)
You know what GDP is? Well what happened there won't happen here because of it. Example:
249.1 billion USD (2012) Greece
15.68 trillion USD (2012) USA


And what you see in the "News" coming from America...may not be news so careful what you believe.

He didn't say Greece, He said Europe.

And what is the US national debt today? Answer. $17T and rising by the second..Now you do the math.

adendreams 11-25-2013 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19885488)
He didn't say Greece, He said Europe.

And what is the US national debt today? Answer. $17T and rising by the second..Now you do the math.

I know he didn't say Greece but thats what I hear from righties all the time, scare tactics about how we are going to be Greece soon.

Funny how the Conservative Money Hoarders like you like to bitch and moan about the National Debt - but I bet you would let it triple if it meant paying another dime in taxes right?

How are Corporate profits doing these days (nationwide) Mr. Lambo man?

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You think its cool to abolish unions and destroy the middle class so CEO's and Board members can add a couple more Yachts to their flotilla.

How can you possible reconcile the OUTRAGEOUS success of Wall Street and Large Corporations and sit there with a strait face and say how proud you are of your Slimefuck Governor who is taking money out of teachers pockets to make his budget "Surplus" look good...hahaha jesus just talking to a guy like you makes me feel slimy.

Hey why don't you surprise us and auction off one of your vintage guitars worth thousands and donate the proceeds to The Philippines where there are mothers pulling their dead babies out of creeks? Or do you just like to show off and brag about what your father left you?

adendreams 11-25-2013 03:05 PM

cue the "My company sends more help to the needy than you ever"..... we have heard that sob story about your tax deductible do-gooder pat yourself on the back crap.

Sell a Lambo and provide 50 poor families with health insurance for life - then tell me how much you give a fuck about the needy.

candidpro 11-25-2013 03:19 PM

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Minte 11-25-2013 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 19885580)
cue the "My company sends more help to the needy than you ever"..... we have heard that sob story about your tax deductible do-gooder pat yourself on the back crap.

Sell a Lambo and provide 50 poor families with health insurance for life - then tell me how much you give a fuck about the needy.

Actually, none of the above. You have proven more than once that you are unable to have anything close to a civilized conversation. Go fight with people in your own league.
I'm done with you.


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