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suesheboy 01-29-2014 02:43 PM

The reality of Obamcare.
 
I have Humana and have had the for years. Just got my renewal. Asked my agent questions who was evasive and went online and found a better policy FROM HUMANA and it was more than $100 a month CHEAPER and if I maxed out my coverage in a year, it was more than $1,000 better coverage!

So let's see. More than $1,200 a year cheaper and pays out $1,000 more all the while being the same insurance company on the same network!

WWJD?

blackmonsters 01-29-2014 02:49 PM

So Obamacare forced Humana to reveal it's real rates to you.

:1orglaugh

_Richard_ 01-29-2014 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 19962334)
So Obamacare forced Humana to reveal it's real rates to you.

:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

JockoHomo 01-29-2014 03:10 PM

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Rochard 01-29-2014 03:21 PM

The truth is for some people it will go up, for others it will go down. This really shouldn't be a surprise for anyone.

atom 01-29-2014 03:31 PM

My families rates went up almost 50% and our coverage is much worse with Office/RX/ER/Deductable etc. Obamacare can lick my fucking taint.

suesheboy 01-30-2014 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by atom (Post 19962387)
My families rates went up almost 50% and our coverage is much worse with Office/RX/ER/Deductable etc. Obamacare can lick my fucking taint.

Wow. I don't get why.

Wonder if we are comparing apples to apples. I had a platinum style plan before and that is what I am sticking with. What level of plans are you dealing with?

Grapesoda 01-30-2014 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 19962840)
Wow. I don't get why.

Wonder if we are comparing apples to apples. I had a platinum style plan before and that is what I am sticking with. What level of plans are you dealing with?

you have low income :2 cents:

suesheboy 01-30-2014 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19962846)
you have low income :2 cents:

LOL.

No I do not a low income.

Let me be clear, I do not qualify for any sort of subsidy and if my income bracket did I would be screaming bloody murder!

arock10 01-30-2014 01:40 PM

Worked out great for me too. Was doing $175 for catastrophic and ended up getting a gold plan for $225

bronco67 01-30-2014 01:49 PM

Obamacare doesn't exist so that everyone will have cheaper insurance right out of the gate (although some will)

....it exists so everyone will actually have INSURANCE, which will keep people from sucking the system with unpaid hospital and emergency room visits. Which in the long game will give us all better insurance rates. Sounds like armageddon to me

Wizzo 01-30-2014 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by atom (Post 19962387)
My families rates went up almost 50% and our coverage is much worse with Office/RX/ER/Deductable etc. Obamacare can lick my fucking taint.

Yeah, my options were 100% more for a similar plan or 20% more for a much shittier plan. .. fuck obamacare.

DTK 01-30-2014 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19963608)
Obamacare doesn't exist so that everyone will have cheaper insurance right out of the gate (although some will)

....it exists so everyone will actually have INSURANCE, which will keep people from sucking the system with unpaid hospital and emergency room visits. Which in the long game will give us all better insurance rates. Sounds like armageddon to me

The sky is falling! :winkwink:

I got better coverage from the same carrier (Anthem/BlueCross) at the same price I had been paying previously.

2MuchMark 01-30-2014 02:26 PM

Healthcare here in Canada is free. But to some top n tea party peeps, that is socialism and therefore evil.

Barefootsies 01-30-2014 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 19962325)
The reality of Obamcare.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 19963625)
Yeah, my options were 100% more for a similar plan or 20% more for a much shittier plan. .. fuck obamacare.


Grapesoda 01-30-2014 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 19963543)
LOL.

No I do not a low income.

Let me be clear, I do not qualify for any sort of subsidy and if my income bracket did I would be screaming bloody murder!

my health ins went up $100 a month, the deductible doubled and my prescriptions cost went up 400%.. I only net low six figure , so I guess it's just random then...:2 cents:

tony286 01-30-2014 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19963648)
The sky is falling! :winkwink:

I got better coverage from the same carrier (Anthem/BlueCross) at the same price I had been paying previously.

isnt it interesting, the people that hate obama all got worst coverage. hmmm

suesheboy 01-30-2014 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19963682)
isnt it interesting, the people that hate obama all got worst coverage. hmmm

Maybe because the NSA knows based upon their surveillance and thus bumps up or down rates.

My deductible stayed the same, my max out of pocket went down $500, my $15,000 cap on emergency transportation is now removed (I travel a lot and spend lots of time in the remote mountains where air rescues start at $10,000 and up), my drug cap went from $4,000 down to $2,500 and the rate is about $1,200 a year cheaper.

Single male, lower 50's registering in Florida.

DTK 01-30-2014 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19963682)
isnt it interesting, the people that hate obama all got worst coverage. hmmm
Quote:

Originally Posted by suesheboy
Maybe because the NSA knows based upon their surveillance and thus bumps up or down rates.


You both might be on to something :winkwink:

What a lot of people forget (or never knew) is that the Insurance co's are still setting the prices. But fuck that, let's blame Obama anyway. We wouldn't want to be mad at the right people for our obscenely expensive healthcare system.

Robbie 01-30-2014 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19963608)
Obamacare doesn't exist so that everyone will have cheaper insurance right out of the gate (although some will)

....it exists so everyone will actually have INSURANCE, which will keep people from sucking the system with unpaid hospital and emergency room visits. Which in the long game will give us all better insurance rates. Sounds like armageddon to me

It was sold to us (from Pres. Obamas own mouth): "The average family will see a savings of $2,500 a year"

It was also named "The AFFORDABLE Health Care Act"

It was also sold to the public as a way to bring down health care costs that were supposedly draining the economy.

"Yes" it was supposed to exist so that costs would go down. That was the original intent.

And as for "everyone will actually have insurance" well...
In 2009 when Obama first became Pres. 84% of Americans already HAD health insurance.
Today...5 years later and with ObamaCare now the law of the land: 83.8% of Americans have health insurance.

Meaning that over 4 years since ObamaCare was passed...we now have fewer people insured than were insured during the last year of GW Bush's term.

But it's costing us trillions of dollars to have no results! That's always a "good" thing to the Federal Govt. :(

arock10 01-30-2014 04:24 PM

all of you had insurance before hand, I don't think you are obamacare's primary target

Wizzo 01-30-2014 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 19963766)
all of you had insurance before hand, I don't think you are obamacare's primary target

Oh we are the "target" just not the target you are talking about... :winkwink:

Robbie 01-30-2014 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 19963771)
Oh we are the "target" just not the target you are talking about... :winkwink:

Bingo. We are the "funds" to pay off the insurance companies. And then it's STILL gonna cost a trillion dollars to the govt. (our taxes). I'm just shocked that anybody is in favor of this.

Sly 01-30-2014 04:34 PM

I'm laughing. So many of you are saying "yeah, so what? This is what it was supposed to be!"

No, it wasn't. You are just believing that because you made out good in the deal. Read the thread again. Many people have gotten fucked without lube, the public was lied to. Thinking that you are off limits just because you got a good deal now is outright hilarious.

Guess who's next?

Wizzo 01-30-2014 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19963773)
Bingo. We are the "funds" to pay off the insurance companies. And then it's STILL gonna cost a trillion dollars to the govt. (our taxes). I'm just shocked that anybody is in favor of this.

It was pretty brilliant on the insurance companies part to figure out a way suck billions if not trillions of Govt money into their private companies.

Robbie 01-30-2014 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 19963785)
It was pretty brilliant on the insurance companies part to figure out a way suck billions if not trillions of Govt money into their private companies.

Govt money AND people's private money too! Most folks have had their rates raised AND if they ever actually do force every human being in the United States to buy insurance against their will...they will get all of that too.

I have to pinch myself to know that I'm not having a silly dream and that this is still the country I was born in.
I can't even imagine back in their time that my grandparents would have put up with the federal govt. telling them that they had to buy insurance just for being alive in the United States (home of the "free")


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