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MrDeiz 03-06-2014 09:09 AM

In case i missed - does any country support Russia?
 
in recent military conflict
i mean really any country, from 3rd world, Africa, etc.
official support (president, parliament or government)
or it's putin left all alone?

CyberHustler 03-06-2014 09:12 AM

The chineeses

dehash 03-06-2014 09:21 AM

Do you hate just Putin and his gang or all Russians?

EddyTheDog 03-06-2014 09:23 AM

The usual suspects I expect - Venezuela, China, Iran etc....

They are all pro anything that annoys the US.....

EddyTheDog 03-06-2014 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dehash (Post 20006682)
Do you hate just Putin and his gang or all Russians?

I read it that he hates the actions that have been taken - Not that he hates a person or group or even country...

I doubt is that fond of Putin though:upsidedow.....

MrDeiz 03-06-2014 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 20006668)
The chineeses

actually they didn't

wehateporn 03-06-2014 09:27 AM

Many do, but they fear repercussions from US/Brit Empire so they stay quite :2 cents:

MrDeiz 03-06-2014 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20006686)
The usual suspects I expect - Venezuela, China, Iran etc....

They are all pro anything that annoys the US.....

nope, nothing from them

_Richard_ 03-06-2014 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20006686)
The usual suspects I expect - Venezuela, China, Iran etc....

They are all pro anything that annoys the US.....

well, Venezuela is currently on fire..

EddyTheDog 03-06-2014 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20006694)
well, Venezuela is currently on fire..

I will to have a look at what is going on there - Not really kept up with it - Work interfering with my morbid curiosity again...

Paul&John 03-06-2014 09:34 AM

even two anchors left the 'independent' RT while still being on air lol
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/20...s_network.html

cam_girls 03-06-2014 09:37 AM

Obama ~ Russia is doing things the OPPOSITE of how things have been done in HISTORY!

i.e. "Russia is the future"

Europe is going downhill fast have to admit! All countries are using the Internet ahead of any actions to ensure things doin't escalate

oppoten 03-06-2014 09:46 AM

Probably Belarus, but I don't think Lukashenko has made a public statement.

mineistaken 03-06-2014 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oppoten (Post 20006716)
Probably Belarus, but I don't think Lukashenko has made a public statement.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 20006668)
The chineeses

It's funny how people allow themselves to post bullshit guesses like these. Actually both Belarus and China clearly stated against Russia's actions few days ago.

MrDeiz 03-06-2014 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oppoten (Post 20006716)
Probably Belarus, but I don't think Lukashenko has made a public statement.

nope, not this time. actually Belarus and Kazakhstan are deeply concerned what's going on and ask Putin for a meeting and some explanations

CyberHustler 03-06-2014 10:03 AM

Chineeses is frontin...

_Richard_ 03-06-2014 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20006721)
It's funny how people allow themselves to post bullshit guesses like these. Actually both Belarus and China clearly stated against Russia's actions few days ago.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...A220GE20140303

'(Reuters) - China and Russia's foreign ministers spoke about the crisis in Ukraine on Monday, and both countries agreed it was very important to "appropriately handle" the issue, China's Foreign Ministry said.'

CAHEK 03-06-2014 10:14 AM

Its either with us or against us.

mineistaken 03-06-2014 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20006744)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...A220GE20140303

'(Reuters) - China and Russia's foreign ministers spoke about the crisis in Ukraine on Monday, and both countries agreed it was very important to "appropriately handle" the issue, China's Foreign Ministry said.'

Interesting. I based my post on older news:
http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/eng/xwfw/s2510/t1133558.shtml
Quote:

We have been urging the relevant parties in Ukraine to resolve their internal disputes peacefully

We respect the independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine.

Scott McD 03-06-2014 10:18 AM

Wales...

oppoten 03-06-2014 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20006721)
It's funny how people allow themselves to post bullshit guesses like these. Actually both Belarus and China clearly stated against Russia's actions few days ago.

ah thanks, I have the statement now.

_Richard_ 03-06-2014 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20006759)
Interesting. I based my post on older news:
http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/eng/xwfw/s2510/t1133558.shtml

'within the legal framework '

it was an armed coup.

Klen 03-06-2014 10:31 AM

So far didn't heard about any official pro-statement,but it is interesting how China suddenly announced how they have largest army and how nobody should mess with them.Wondering was that random statement or it was provoked by this.

ZiggiZiggiCrew 03-06-2014 10:33 AM

MrDeiz, ты хочешь спросить кто впиштся за Украину в случае реального замеса? да никто не впишется, нах она сдалась. Печеньки на майдане раздавать одно, а отхватиь реальных пиздюлей другое

Россия 1\6 часть суши, 6-я экономика в мире, обладает ядерным оружием. Китай 2 миллиадра жителей, 2-я экономика в мире, обладает ядерным оружием. Обе страны состоят в ОДКБ, ну и Индия туда давно просится. Ну какбэ никто больше и не нужет особо. Ну Бангладеш можно взять, чисто поржать

LaLExpo 03-06-2014 10:55 AM

Im sure Venezuela does .....

femdomdestiny 03-06-2014 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20006697)
I will to have a look at what is going on there - Not really kept up with it - Work interfering with my morbid curiosity again...

My good friend is there and tons of shit happening. Robberies, violence, mess on street. He is sending me photos form wild people protesting and using time to rob stores

Rochard 03-06-2014 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dehash (Post 20006682)
Do you hate just Putin and his gang or all Russians?

I don't hate anyone.

While I do get a small amount of satisfaction when the US flexes it's military might, there are times when military action is called for and times when it is completely improper. Military action should be the last resort, long after diplomacy has failed.

You can try to compare US actions in the past to what's currently happening with Ukraine, but at the very least US has "remotely valid" reasons and usually UN support. With Russia invading Ukraine, there was no remotely valid reason, no diplomacy, and the only threat to Russian speaking citizens of Ukraine is the fact that Russia has invaded Ukraine.

Russia in fact does not have the right to protect "Russian speaking people" in any way, shape, or form. If this was the case Russia would have a reason to invade Poland or any of the former Soviet Block countries, and might also give Mexico the right to invade California, Arizona, Nevada, and Texas to protect "Spanish speaking people".

Klen 03-06-2014 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20006825)
I don't hate anyone.

While I do get a small amount of satisfaction when the US flexes it's military might, there are times when military action is called for and times when it is completely improper. Military action should be the last resort, long after diplomacy has failed.

You can try to compare US actions in the past to what's currently happening with Ukraine, but at the very least US has "remotely valid" reasons and usually UN support. With Russia invading Ukraine, there was no remotely valid reason, no diplomacy, and the only threat to Russian speaking citizens of Ukraine is the fact that Russia has invaded Ukraine.

Russia in fact does not have the right to protect "Russian speaking people" in any way, shape, or form. If this was the case Russia would have a reason to invade Poland or any of the former Soviet Block countries, and might also give Mexico the right to invade California, Arizona, Nevada, and Texas to protect "Spanish speaking people".

Turkey could also invade Crimea to protect tartar minority which is Turkish origin.It would be hilarious if that would happen.

romeo22 03-06-2014 12:58 PM

Best support for Russia is China and also Turkey!Those countries are very big n powerful and they always support Russia.

Kolargol 03-06-2014 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by romeo22 (Post 20006948)
Best support for Russia is China and also Turkey!Those countries are very big n powerful and they always support Russia.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

brassmonkey 03-06-2014 01:06 PM

http://www.latimes.com/world/worldno...,5921229.story

xpimp 03-06-2014 01:18 PM

yes, antarctica suports russia

dehash 03-06-2014 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20006825)
I don't hate anyone.

While I do get a small amount of satisfaction when the US flexes it's military might, there are times when military action is called for and times when it is completely improper. Military action should be the last resort, long after diplomacy has failed.

You can try to compare US actions in the past to what's currently happening with Ukraine, but at the very least US has "remotely valid" reasons and usually UN support. With Russia invading Ukraine, there was no remotely valid reason, no diplomacy, and the only threat to Russian speaking citizens of Ukraine is the fact that Russia has invaded Ukraine.

Russia in fact does not have the right to protect "Russian speaking people" in any way, shape, or form. If this was the case Russia would have a reason to invade Poland or any of the former Soviet Block countries, and might also give Mexico the right to invade California, Arizona, Nevada, and Texas to protect "Spanish speaking people".


I asked Thread Starter if he hates just Putin or all Russians. You didn't see pics of those crazy nazy followers , they want to go and kill Russians? Just because they are Russians. Of course US deny there is a threat for Russian population. May be it is propaganda?
I don't know. I don't trust CNN or RT news channels - they just follow their strategy. Remember Cuba? US didn't like USSR missiles on island 80 miles away from Florida. They put a big pressure/efforts to make USSR leave Cuba. Why do you believe Putin will allow NATO troops/bases near his borders? Why do you think he has to play by rules? I think he believes he can get away with that.
I am not saying Putin is good Obama is bad or vice versa. They are just politics. All politics do dirty things. At all times and ages.

klinton 03-06-2014 01:22 PM

sadly, not that many. anyway - in my opinion - better to have 2 or 3 Emperiums in the world than one (USA)...so I support Russia..and Ukraine nation too.

Kolargol 03-06-2014 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dehash (Post 20006986)
Why do you believe Putin will allow NATO troops/bases near his borders?

Where did you get that? Did you hear someone from US or Ukrainian gov saying they want American troops there? Looks like Russia invaded the neighboring "brother slavic" country before someone had such idea.

Paul 03-06-2014 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul&John (Post 20006700)
even two anchors left the 'independent' RT while still being on air lol
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/20...s_network.html

All part of the anti Russian propaganda :)

Within a month or two those two cheap whores will be working for a US network earning more money!

dehash 03-06-2014 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kolargol (Post 20006993)
Where did you get that? Did you hear someone from US or Ukrainian gov saying they want American troops there? Looks like Russia invaded the neighboring "brother slavic" country before someone had such idea.

If Ukraine will go under NATO, then they can allow NATO troops and bases
It all BIG politic game. We know nothing. We are "internet warriors" can only guess (with can of beer in one hand).

seeandsee 03-06-2014 01:44 PM

MrDeiz i hope you get some money for this :)

Rochard 03-06-2014 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dehash (Post 20006986)
Of course US deny there is a threat for Russian population.

There was never a threat to Russian speaking citizens.

The President of Ukraine was legally removed from office by his government due to the mishandling of protests, in which a number of citizens died. These were not Russian speaking citizens and in fact just the opposite - people of the Euromaidan, a movement in Ukraine of people who want to bring the country closer to Europe.

Even if there was any kind of threat to Russian speaking citizens, Russia still has NO RIGHT to invade another country. They are not Russian citizens, they are Ukrainian citizens and have been since long before I was born.

klinton 03-06-2014 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kolargol (Post 20006993)
Where did you get that? Did you hear someone from US or Ukrainian gov saying they want American troops there? Looks like Russia invaded the neighboring "brother slavic" country before someone had such idea.

yeah, right, for sure:1orglaugh:winkwink:

Rochard 03-06-2014 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 20006835)
Turkey could also invade Crimea to protect tartar minority which is Turkish origin.It would be hilarious if that would happen.

I'm still waiting for the French to invade Quebec.

Emma 03-06-2014 04:27 PM

Russia doesn't need any support. They own enough nuclear warheads.

http://www.ploughshares.org/sites/de...nfo-111413.png

According to some British news,Russia has up to 15.000 nuclear warheads. Differing sources have different totals mostly because Russia (and the former Soviet Union) has never revealed the exact number.

CAHEK 03-06-2014 04:57 PM

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...50832331_n.jpg

deltav 03-06-2014 05:07 PM

CAHEK, were you against all those USA interventions? Then shouldn't you be against this one too, or do you have the same hypocritical double standard as those Americans?

pornmasta 03-06-2014 05:17 PM

japan is annoyed
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/0...A230TK20140304


Btw why a revolution on maidan is self-determination and why a referendum in crimea isn't self-determination ?

wehateporn 03-06-2014 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAHEK (Post 20007179)


Genius :thumbsup :1orglaugh

dehash 03-06-2014 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20007046)
There was never a threat to Russian speaking citizens.

The President of Ukraine was legally removed from office by his government due to the mishandling of protests, in which a number of citizens died. These were not Russian speaking citizens and in fact just the opposite - people of the Euromaidan, a movement in Ukraine of people who want to bring the country closer to Europe.

Even if there was any kind of threat to Russian speaking citizens, Russia still has NO RIGHT to invade another country. They are not Russian citizens, they are Ukrainian citizens and have been since long before I was born.

I already told you - who said Putin has to follow rules? Who's rules? The government who's drones kill civilians? He dared not to follow! Now "other no so good guys" has to stop him. Whoever stronger - dictates the rules.

mineistaken 03-06-2014 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAHEK (Post 20007179)

Because nobody is harming Russian people, that is a clear lie.
Not to say others were not lies, but:
they were not so clear from the beginning and there were many anti war protests as well.
So basically your pictures fail.

DigitalPimpNetwork 03-06-2014 07:46 PM

Somebody has to pick up the pieces it's turning into a warzone, it's usually the USA that intervines this time it's Russia big deal...the hypocrisy seriously?

deltav 03-06-2014 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20007275)
Because nobody is harming Russian people, that is a clear lie.
Not to say others were not lies, but:
they were not so clear from the beginning and there were many anti war protests as well.
So basically your pictures fail.

Afghanistan was somewhat justifiable at first as Bin Laden had just attacked the USA and killed over 3k people.

Iraq was total bullshit with the main excuses (Saddam's involvement with al Qaeda and WMD) total lies and propaganda cooked up by Bush/Cheney/Rumsfield/etc to settle scores and fatten the wallets of their corporate cronies. It's a travesty that it ever happened.

Libya was totally stupid too, I still do not quite understand the rationale (it was mostly the EU, not the USA actually) for interfering there.

Syria, well no one actually invaded Syria so I'm not sure what it's doing on that pic.

My point is, it was wrong then and it's wrong now. The hypocrisy goes two ways - both sides get all worked up when the other does it, and justifies their actions when they do (including buying into obvious propaganda pumped out by their respective govts). It's a petty tribal mentality and unfortunately the cause of much misery in the world.


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