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Sly 04-28-2014 08:09 AM

California says goodbye to 5000 Toyota jobs
 
Texas thanks you.

http://www.businessinsider.com/toyot...o-texas-2014-4

sperbonzo 04-28-2014 08:17 AM

Wait a minute....


so you are saying that when a government raises costs on companies, through taxation and massive regulation, that those companies then move to somewhere that is less costly to do business????


That can't possibly be correct.

Now there was a time when I had my offices in a building that changed ownership, and the new owners decided to raise the rent by 30%. I then just moved to another building that lowered my cost of doing business. In talking to my former office neighbors, apparently the building ended up half empty, and was later sold again.

Obviously though, this doesn't apply to things like taxes and regulation costs. That just wouldn't make sense!




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MrTrollkien 04-28-2014 08:21 AM

Hmm...why would a company ever want to leave such a "pro business" state such as California

BlackCrayon 04-28-2014 08:22 AM

at least they're staying the US, for now.

Dvae 04-28-2014 08:57 AM

Its no surprise, Liberals and Unions are both job killers.

baddog 04-28-2014 08:59 AM

Thank you Moonbeam and all you idiots that voted for him

Deej 04-28-2014 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20065980)
Thank you Moonbeam and all you idiots that voted for him

Moonbeam :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

mineistaken 04-28-2014 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20065980)
Thank you Moonbeam and all you idiots that voted for him

:1orglaugh:thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 20065978)
Its no surprise, Liberals and Unions are both job killers.

Evil corporations as losers/liberals/democrats says :1orglaugh

Grapesoda 04-28-2014 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrTrollkien (Post 20065926)
Hmm...why would a company ever want to leave such a "pro business" state such as California

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

romeo22 04-28-2014 10:33 AM

Heavy time.Its so bad to lost a job these days.

Vendzilla 04-28-2014 10:37 AM

Cost of doing business in California is way out of hand. But the politicians only care about being re elected. We are a welfare state that has the economy that's like the 6th biggest in the world compared to countries! And these liberal politicians are fucking it up. Governor Moonbean is one of them, he's the reason the unions are getting such high retirements for state employee's. Governor Reagan was the last good governor we had.

VikingMan 04-28-2014 11:41 AM

What is shocking is that Toyota had 5000 jobs in the stay of Commiefornia to begin with. The CEO of Intel took all employees out of California and vowed they would never have any business in that state ever again.

dillonaire 04-28-2014 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 20065978)
Its no surprise, Liberals and Unions are both job killers.

Unions were the death of middle class in the US. The main reason the US has lost most of its manufacturing jobs.

BlackCrayon 04-28-2014 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gamelinkjeff (Post 20066248)
Unions were the death of middle class in the US. The main reason the US has lost most of its manufacturing jobs.

do you really think it wouldn't of happened anyways? i guess maybe if employees were willing to take a huge pay cut and get rid of any benefits.

dillonaire 04-28-2014 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20066253)
do you really think it wouldn't of happened anyways? i guess maybe if employees were willing to take a huge pay cut and get rid of any benefits.

I guess we would of lost some of the jobs no matter what, but we would of kept more if people were not demanding $25+ an hour to punch a hole in a piece of metal or some other mindless manufacturing work. Meanwhile Burger King employees which requires more thinking and more work are making less than $10 an hour.

SilentKnight 04-28-2014 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gamelinkjeff (Post 20066248)
Unions were the death of middle class in the US and Canada. The main reason the US and Canada has lost most of its manufacturing jobs.

Fixed it for you.

DBS.US 04-28-2014 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gamelinkjeff (Post 20066511)
I guess we would of lost some of the jobs no matter what, but we would of kept more if people were not demanding $25+ an hour to punch a hole in a piece of metal or some other mindless manufacturing work. Meanwhile Burger King employees which requires more thinking and more work are making less than $10 an hour.

Union workers buy more porn then Burger King burger flippers:2 cents:

Due 04-28-2014 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 20066737)
Union workers buy more porn then Burger King burger flippers:2 cents:

Not when they are unemployed.

Biggy 04-28-2014 09:01 PM

What people will realize is its not just the adult business that gets its balls busted by the crazy large government in CA. It's widespread.

You have a lot of people working for the state that have no real productive work to do. There's agency after agency, and they need to manufacture work. So they bust the balls of private business in industries all over CA and justify their paycheck and eventual generous pension.

Today, the avg small business spends something like $30k a year in regulatory fees (thats not a CA #, but a US#). It's an astonishing #. Since Obama took office, he's proposed over 400 new taxes. The employer mandate for Obamacare kicks in next year, that should be interesting.... Some people are asking how the stock market can be so hot, but job growth lackluster, and GDP growth positive, but somewhat weak. Even his supporters are starting to realize the likely culprit is over-regulation.

The long and short of it is... companies are flocking to business-friendly states and tax-friendly jurisdictions. And the states with really high taxes aren't acknowledging the real cost: how many new businesses or existing business will cross those states off the list in the future because the burden is so high. You never see that mentioned in any articles.

I remember article after article on prop 30 last year. "Study after study has shown people don't move over taxes." -- uh huuuh.. Says the state who just hiked the highest personal income tax rate to 13.3%. The city that has a 9% local sales tax rate. They tried to raise it to 9.5% last year to enlarge the police force (it got voted down), and this year there's another ballot to raise it to 9.5% to fix the roads. Every year, taxes go up. 13.3% will turn into 15% in no time. 9% sales tax will turn into 9.5% will turn into 10%, etc. The trend is clear... things will get worst. Technically if you own a business in CA, the CA gov't is your 10% partner, you just dont realize it until you sell it.


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