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pornmasta 05-11-2014 01:53 PM

My stats with twistyscash
 
for this year:


1:36266
fortunately, i have some rebills... for the moment

wehateporn 05-11-2014 02:28 PM

Very scary!!

Nomarh 05-11-2014 07:17 PM

pretty bad

VSKevin 05-11-2014 07:18 PM

Ouch, best of luck to ya in the future.

BIGTYMER 05-11-2014 10:57 PM

Sorry my bot got stuck on your ref link...

bluebook18 05-11-2014 11:03 PM

there content is great but conversion is terrible, how is that possible?

ctggls 05-11-2014 11:19 PM

For me it is the same with twistys but babes.com. Ever since manwin got the it has been like this..

VamosNicholas 05-11-2014 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluebook18 (Post 20083766)
there content is great but conversion is terrible, how is that possible?


I think it's too easily available across all of the sharing sites around. That's my guess anyway.

ohjulien 05-11-2014 11:49 PM

Soooo what Should one do, Move on? you pull up twistys and see
Brazzers
Mofos
Twistys
babes
Playboy
Wicked
Digital Playground
Webcams
Reality Cash
movie Box
Men

And we all Know Reality Kings

So What to do ?

Mediamix 05-12-2014 02:30 AM

With what kind of traffic?

signupdamnit 05-12-2014 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohjulien (Post 20083780)
Soooo what Should one do, Move on? you pull up twistys and see
Brazzers
Mofos
Twistys
babes
Playboy
Wicked
Digital Playground
Webcams
Reality Cash
movie Box
Men

And we all Know Reality Kings

So What to do ?

Sell something which isn't available for free and more importantly that consumers expect to have to pay for. If the owners of the sites didn't protect their content and their industry then fuck them. You don't owe them anything. Let them destroy their own business if that is what they want.

Dating
Cams
Mainstream
Sex Toy Products

Kafka 05-12-2014 05:00 AM

Babe content is boring. That's why.

Lykos 05-12-2014 05:07 AM

It's hard to promote sites which everyone already know about...

pornmasta 05-12-2014 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kafka (Post 20083911)
Babe content is boring. That's why.

no, that's not the problem, my conversion rates are pretty good with other babe program.
A part of the answer is the traffic.

Now, let's see my ratio, year after year:

01/01/12 - 05/15/12: 1:5484 (16 sign ups)
01/01/13 - 05/15/13: 1:3990 (16 sign ups)
08/01/13 - 12/31/13: 1:7169 (9 sign ups)

01/01/14 - 05/15/14: 1:36371 (1 recent sign up)

Now tell me: what happens at the end of 2013 ?

seeandsee 05-12-2014 07:18 AM

scary ratio this year

ShowMe69 05-12-2014 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20083450)
for this year:


1:36266
fortunately, i have some rebills... for the moment

Damn that's terrible, send that traffic to CuckoldLand.com we will beat that conversion ratio by a mile :thumbsup

pornmasta 05-12-2014 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShowMe69 (Post 20084019)
Damn that's terrible, send that traffic to CuckoldLand.com we will beat that conversion ratio by a mile :thumbsup

it's unfortunately not that easy.
But if someone has an affiliate program with good promo materials (videos of a decent length, a strip tease would be the best) and with decent content inside an UPDATED member area, let me know.
Oh yes, if you have games inside your member area, it would be far better.

Harmon 05-12-2014 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20084012)
08/01/13 - 12/31/13: 1:7169 (9 sign ups)

01/01/14 - 05/15/14: 1:36371 (1 recent sign up)

Now tell me: what happens at the end of 2013 ?

A MAJOR Google update happened mid to late October 2013. A lot of people dropped a ton of key spots, and I am guessing you are one of them? I'm also guessing that those 9 signups were people that either had you bookmarked or still cookied.

After the first of the year it died because your ranking were already dead... you were just still getting residual traffic or something.

08/01/13 - 12/31/13: 1:7169 (9 sign ups)
9 x 7169 (roughly) = 64,521 hits total


01/01/14 - 05/15/14: 1:36371 (1 recent sign up)

Easy. Your traffic to the site dropped in half (almost).

Factor in tubes and the amount of free shit out there, well I think you get it. People may be clicking through just to see what they have to offer in order to get out their pencil and pad so they know what to download on torrents or what to look for on the tube sites.

pornmasta 05-12-2014 07:29 AM

0 traffic from search engines.
Yes, 0 !
My traffic dropped because i did the same thing but with another sponsor (lifeselector), now i could show you my stats with lifeselector, they went from very good to very bad, in less than 2-3 months.
It is now the same thing with them: only teh rebills are remaining...

Harmon 05-12-2014 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20084029)
0 traffic from search engines.
Yes, 0 !
My traffic dropped because i did the same thing but with another sponsor (lifeselector), now i could show you my stats with lifeselector, they went from very good to very bad, in less than 2-3 months.
It is now the same thing with them: only teh rebills are remaining...

Then let me ask you this, without prying to much into your personal information... where is the traffic coming from that you ARE sending to them? If there is ZERO organic traffic going to the sponsor... are you buying it? Are you feeding it with a site that DOES have organic SE traffic? If so, what type of content is the site that you are getting the organic traffic from?

You are leaving way too many variables out there in the wind, so it's hard to determine what it is that happened. :2 cents:

Sid70 05-12-2014 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20083450)
for this year:


1:36266
fortunately, i have some rebills... for the moment

I thought they closed the shop.

pornmasta 05-12-2014 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 20084069)
where is the traffic coming from that you ARE sending to them?

This traffic comes mostly from online games (flash files), it doesn't convert so well, but it should be better then this. I have a copycat competitor, that makes far more free games with promo content from twistys, but again 1/36000 is a questionable ratio.

wehateporn 05-12-2014 08:16 AM

Always remember this rule, to get your sales your traffic has to be growing month by month, give it a try and watch what happens; they only invest in those who are growing. Your affiliate sales are their investment in you :2 cents:

CaptainHowdy 05-12-2014 08:19 AM

MindGeekin' ...

pornmasta 05-12-2014 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20084096)
Always remember this rule, to get your sales your traffic has to be growing month by month, give it a try and watch what happens; they only invest in those who are growing. :2 cents:

is this a mechanic rule or a shaving rule ?
You know i could just change my sponsor...

wehateporn 05-12-2014 08:22 AM

Done by your affiliate manager :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20084104)
is this a mechanic rule or a shaving rule ?
You know i could just change my sponsor...


wehateporn 05-12-2014 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20084104)
You know i could just change my sponsor...

It's a difficult one, CCBill converts at a much lower rate but at least you do get your sale. If you go for a sponsor who only invests in you when you are growing, you can actually make easier money as long as you stay within their 'growing' rule. :2 cents:

If it's a project you intend to leave best to go for third party billing :2 cents:

Nancy M00re 05-12-2014 08:55 AM

Hey pornmasta,

You are probably not using the right landing page for your traffic. We have all kinds now.
Why don't you just hit me up?

I am here to help

The Porn Nerd 05-12-2014 10:07 AM

Wow man, sounds like you have good traffic numbers so those conversions should be better....

Try either of my Programs - Erotic Revenue has more recent updates, HD, longer vids, better quality. But Porn Nerd Cash has a shitload of good sites to promote.

Contact me via ICQ anytime to discuss. Either way good luck and hope it gets better for you! :)

barelist 05-12-2014 10:16 AM

Did you contact Twistys?

Ours is 1:2866 for 2014.

2013 was 1:2100.

So not way off, and only comparing less than half a year of 2014.

pornmasta 05-12-2014 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nancy M00re (Post 20084167)

You are probably not using the right landing page for your traffic. We have all kinds now.

thanks, i'll try
I'll perhaps contact you at the end of june or july, but since i changed something recently it wouldn't be useful now.

NiftyStats Jenna 05-12-2014 10:44 AM

no good :(:Oh crap

rockeru 05-12-2014 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20084091)
This traffic comes mostly from online games (flash files), it doesn't convert so well, but it should be better then this. I have a copycat competitor, that makes far more free games with promo content from twistys, but again 1/36000 is a questionable ratio.

Don't blame Twistys for not converting for such crap traffic, my ratio has been 1:900 last year, 1:1100 this year.

pornmasta 05-12-2014 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barelist (Post 20084288)

Ours is 1:2866 for 2014.

2013 was 1:2100.

ok thank you for this information, but we can't compare our ratios in this case.

pornmasta 05-12-2014 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockeru (Post 20084633)
Don't blame Twistys for not converting for such crap traffic, my ratio has been 1:900 last year, 1:1100 this year.

check my ratio in the past, and again, WE CAN'T compare our ratio since my traffic source is different

pornmasta 05-17-2014 03:01 PM

So i updated the tour that i linked and i have 2 sign ups today.
I hope that it is legit users...

PornDude 05-17-2014 03:07 PM

Here is my top 10 :thumbsup

1. VideoBox
2. VideosZ
3. NastyDollars
4. MofosCash
5. BangBros
6. TwistysCash
7. HustlerCash
8. DieselAction
9. NubileFilms
10. KinkyDollars

Must have: CrakRevenue

bean-aid 05-17-2014 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20084026)
it's unfortunately not that easy.
But if someone has an affiliate program with good promo materials (videos of a decent length, a strip tease would be the best) and with decent content inside an UPDATED member area, let me know.
Oh yes, if you have games inside your member area, it would be far better.

Games are the bomb. Are you getting any traffic from that strip poker game you made?

DavieVegas 05-17-2014 03:23 PM

Mine was even worse with bigger numbers. Unfortunately that content doesnt convert anymore

pornmasta 05-17-2014 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 20090340)
Games are the bomb. Are you getting any traffic from that strip poker game you made?

if you have a sponsor, you can paste it here or as private message.
Also, there is probably too much strip poker games (especially free one), it is hard to make them viral with game websites.

Pryda 05-18-2014 02:39 AM

1:2673 for babepedia.com this year. Last year was a bit better: 1:2301.

SekobA 05-18-2014 08:46 AM

that is real nightmare for you

BAKO 05-18-2014 09:33 AM

Traffic always needs to be optimized. it's not 1997 lol

xXXtesy10 05-18-2014 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20083450)
for this year:


1:36266
fortunately, i have some rebills... for the moment

New owners? :1orglaugh

SomeCreep 05-18-2014 11:05 AM

Tube sites.

Sednub997 05-18-2014 11:30 AM

some bad stats

fuzebox 05-18-2014 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20084012)
01/01/12 - 05/15/12: 1:5484 (16 sign ups)
01/01/13 - 05/15/13: 1:3990 (16 sign ups)
08/01/13 - 12/31/13: 1:7169 (9 sign ups)

01/01/14 - 05/15/14: 1:36371 (1 recent sign up)

You made this thread because of a program you have sent 40 signups to in the last 3 years?

http://www.hrmagazine.co.uk/IMG/544/...43-370x229.jpg

Harmon 05-18-2014 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 20090958)
You made this thread because of a program you have sent 40 signups to in the last 3 years?

http://www.hrmagazine.co.uk/IMG/544/...43-370x229.jpg

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

signupdamnit 05-18-2014 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 20090958)
You made this thread because of a program you have sent 40 signups to in the last 3 years?

http://www.hrmagazine.co.uk/IMG/544/...43-370x229.jpg

I think he's complaining because of the 1:36,371 part this year. A couple years ago most people would have expected at least 10-20 sales from that, not one.

But your graphic brings up a good point. The industry is pretty much turning normal paysite affiliates into McDonald's workers. You can't win with 1:30,000 conversions. In fact it's very hard with even 1:5,000 conversions.

If you mock him then you're probably mocking 90% of normal non-tube paysite affiliates out there with about the same volume.

wehateporn 05-18-2014 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 20090958)
You made this thread because of a program you have sent 40 signups to in the last 3 years?

Maybe he's got 1000 different sponsors, or if not and it's only for a few sales here and there, he should still expect get his sales :2 cents:


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