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ExtremeBank_Adam 07-13-2014 11:00 PM

Someone help me understand this... our videos on XVideos, "sponsored" by someone else.
 
Saw a few of our videos on XVideos... no biggie, it happens all the time, even though they're masking Alysha's name now so her movies don't show up when you search for them or click the "pornstar" link in the title... But, that's not what I'm asking here...

There were three videos in particular that I shot personally, I produced them, paid for the models, and used the content for our site and our DVDs. So, when I find these scenes on XVideos, I would normally just send a DMCA notice, like I just did. The problem is, three of these videos had a link on them that said, "This video is sponsored by 1 Girl 1 Camera", and you click that link and it takes you to the Puba Pornstar Network.

Am I missing something here, or is Puba posting my videos on XVideos and paying XVideos for advertising my videos???? Someone tell me I'm wrong...

First video:
http://www.extremebank.com/images/gfy/xvideos1.jpg

Second video:
http://www.extremebank.com/images/gfy/xvideos2.jpg

Third video:
http://www.extremebank.com/images/gfy/xvideos3.jpg

All three videos contain a link to "1 Girl 1 Camera". Click that link, and it take you here:
http://www.extremebank.com/images/gfy/puba.jpg

So... someone tell me WTF is going on here?

Thanks, I'm sure the 2 AM crowd can give me a reasonable explanation. :thumbsup

Ferus 07-13-2014 11:04 PM

It's popover banners, like on youtube, what is there to understand? Click the Little "X" and it goes away like on any other site.

Puba is just paying to advertice there, like everyone else. It's not like they selected your video and wanted to be the "official sponsor" of your content.

xXXtesy10 07-13-2014 11:05 PM

Lol... They do it all the time bro. Top notch

Performance 07-13-2014 11:06 PM

^^ wat he/she said

Phoenix 07-13-2014 11:10 PM

they are just borrowing...adapt or die.

no seriously..that is bullshit though..sorry to see that

ExtremeBank_Adam 07-13-2014 11:13 PM

I thought those banners only came up on videos that sites posted for THEIR own videos. See an Evil Angel video, the banner will direct you to their site. Lots of examples like that.

Hell, here's another one of Alysha:

http://www.extremebank.com/images/gfy/xvideos4.jpg

This was a content share video Alysha did with Anna from 4RealSwingers.com. And, while we aren't thrilled with them using it on XVideos, it is clear that's where it came from. So, why are we getting links to Puba on our videos, which are stolen to start with?

Forgive me for not knowing the ins and outs of the tube world... I try to stay off of them except to send DMCA Notices. But, I've been looking and I don't see any random ads going to sites that aren't affiliated with the video.

ExtremeBank_Adam 07-13-2014 11:17 PM

Every video I find that has the ad pop up, the ad is from the same company as the video. Evil Angel, Porn Pros, even Dixie's Trailer Park, Reality Kings. All of these ads match the video.

http://www.xvideos.com/video1518561/...essy_blow_job_
http://www.xvideos.com/video7983850/...ng_sleepov er
http://www.xvideos.com/video1097047/..._and_dad_sleep
http://www.xvideos.com/video447214/b...o_s_ big_cock

Manfap 07-13-2014 11:19 PM

Is fullsuck.com yours?

xXXtesy10 07-13-2014 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 20157394)
Is fullsuck.com yours?

Shhhhh :1orglaugh

freecartoonporn 07-13-2014 11:30 PM

what you dont undertsand here ?

they are using your videos to pull traffic and make money .

this happens a lot with amateur stuff, but this is the first time i am seeing this with some non amateur vids
/thread.

Dirty D 07-14-2014 07:23 AM

Looks like multiple thieves....

FullSuck.com ???

ExtremeBank_Adam 07-14-2014 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manfap (Post 20157394)
Is fullsuck.com yours?

Nope. Not mine.

iwantchixx 07-14-2014 08:53 AM

Xvideos has a habbit of using other's 'content partner program' uploads to push sites they made deals with.

Example: I uploaded a bunch of AsianSexDiary videos, then once day, a few of them were changed to say sponsored by some other site. A white single-girl site. They also LOCKED the videos so I could not reverse what they did. When pressed for an answer, they did NOT answer why they did it and just unlocked it for me. Then turned around and started targeting my watermark urls in their tag pages to gain SE traffic on our type-in urls.

They are not here to do business with webmasters with their program, they are in this to make profit using the webmasters work and don't care who they fuck over in the process. If this was brick n mortar, there'd be anti trust and fraud lawsuits so far up their asses, their children's grandchildren would be poorer than dirt trying to wipe their family name clean.

Fat Panda 07-14-2014 08:54 AM

what adult ad network is willfully conspiring with xvideos to monetize your content? call these motherfucking maggots out

absolute parasites that need to be eradicated! its time to go nuclear on these cocksuckers

Ferus 07-14-2014 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Panda (Post 20157884)
what adult ad network is willfully conspiring with xvideos to monetize your content? call these motherfucking maggots out

absolute parasites that need to be eradicated! its time to go nuclear on these cocksuckers

You dont realise most programs do it bu now? look at all pirate sites where Live Jasmin is main sponsor, and people dont say/do shit

PaperstreetWinston 07-14-2014 03:34 PM

same thing with youtube. nothing you can do about it except pull down your vids

NaughtyRob 07-14-2014 09:18 PM

This.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx (Post 20157882)

They are not here to do business with webmasters with their program, they are in this to make profit using the webmasters work and don't care who they fuck over in the process. If this was brick n mortar, there'd be anti trust and fraud lawsuits so far up their asses, their children's grandchildren would be poorer than dirt trying to wipe their family name clean.


marcop 07-14-2014 09:51 PM

Just waiting for someone to post "adapt or die" here.

InfoGuy 07-14-2014 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcop (Post 20158568)
Just waiting for someone to post "adapt or die" here.

Someone already did, see post #5.

SpicyM 07-14-2014 10:42 PM

They allow public uploads and the choice of a sponsor from the list. So you can basically upload any video and assign any sponsor to it.

In this case, the site name begins with "1" so the site could be the first one on the list and therefore most people pick the first option , or maybe the script does that automatically if none is selected.

Red Ezra 07-14-2014 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 20158601)
They allow public uploads and the choice of a sponsor from the list. So you can basically upload any video and assign any sponsor to it.

In this case, the site name begins with "1" so the site could be the first one on the list and therefore most people pick the first option , or maybe the script does that automatically if none is selected.

it's getting to be impossible to get money invested into production back with shit like this going on. I thought it was hard when hotels and cable were crunching the revenue but this is taking down to the loose change too.

Captain Kawaii 07-14-2014 11:18 PM

Anyone know who the parent company is? Is it FC2 who are getting the shit sued out of them for massive piracy by DTI?

2MuchMark 07-15-2014 12:25 AM

Sorry Adam - it looks like you're being ripped-off big time.

baggg 07-15-2014 12:40 AM

rogue employee

lezinterracial 07-15-2014 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 20158607)
Anyone know who the parent company is? Is it FC2 who are getting the shit sued out of them for massive piracy by DTI?

Not sure the company name. Nophest owns it, He used to post here. A French guy. Though I don't think he lives in France anymore.

FC2 is different, I think. Targeting Japan. They have different hosting and a different look.

Captain Kawaii 07-15-2014 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lezinterracial (Post 20158642)
Not sure the company name. Nophest owns it, He used to post here. A French guy. Though I don't think he lives in France anymore.

FC2 is different, I think. Targeting Japan. They have different hosting and a different look.

Yeah, I believe you are correct.

Someone has developed an extensive xvideos for Japan though. .jp tild and everything. They have a problem with keeping animals and kids off their site which is a shame. And now this illegal use of content on top of it.

Manfap 07-15-2014 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExtremeBank_Adam (Post 20157863)
Nope. Not mine.

Then first step is find out who that is.

They are uploading your vids for the type in traffic the watermark gets.

xvideos are just running pop over banners because none are set by the uploader, doesnt mean the video is uploaded/owned by puba

xvideos 07-15-2014 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExtremeBank_Adam (Post 20157379)
Saw a few of our videos on XVideos... no biggie, it happens all the time, even though they're masking Alysha's name now so her movies don't show up when you search for them or click the "pornstar" link in the title... But, that's not what I'm asking here...

There were three videos in particular that I shot personally, I produced them, paid for the models, and used the content for our site and our DVDs. So, when I find these scenes on XVideos, I would normally just send a DMCA notice, like I just did. The problem is, three of these videos had a link on them that said, "This video is sponsored by 1 Girl 1 Camera", and you click that link and it takes you to the Puba Pornstar Network.

Am I missing something here, or is Puba posting my videos on XVideos and paying XVideos for advertising my videos???? Someone tell me I'm wrong...

So... someone tell me WTF is going on here?

Thanks, I'm sure the 2 AM crowd can give me a reasonable explanation. :thumbsup

Old videos and old account. We used to give access to sponsor link codes to any user, so that they could be responsible and promote the sites the videos were coming from.

It was a feature designed to benefit content owners but it turned out as being used randomly like in this case.

Now only channel accounts can use these link codes in players but we could not just revert all the old associations because many are valid.

xvideos 07-15-2014 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExtremeBank_Adam (Post 20157390)
I thought those banners only came up on videos that sites posted for THEIR own videos. See an Evil Angel video, the banner will direct you to their site. Lots of examples like that.

Hell, here's another one of Alysha:

This was a content share video Alysha did with Anna from 4RealSwingers.com. And, while we aren't thrilled with them using it on XVideos, it is clear that's where it came from. So, why are we getting links to Puba on our videos, which are stolen to start with?

Forgive me for not knowing the ins and outs of the tube world... I try to stay off of them except to send DMCA Notices. But, I've been looking and I don't see any random ads going to sites that aren't affiliated with the video.

As time goes we clear many of the old wrong associations. We have no interest in sending this traffic to the wrong place. We have no deal with these other companies contrary to what was suggested.

mineistaken 07-15-2014 04:51 AM

Thief has spoken ^
It's not their fault, they did not mean to be stealing!

Pornopat 07-15-2014 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20158784)
Thief has spoken ^
It's not their fault, they did not mean to be stealing!

I think xvideos just spoke the truth.
I am very surprised that nobody noticed so far that a channel like "1 girl, 1 camera" is probably on top of the list. Its in alphabetical order and the numbers come before the alphabet.
:2 cents:

SpicyM 07-15-2014 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornopat (Post 20158804)
I think xvideos just spoke the truth.
I am very surprised that nobody noticed so far that a channel like "1 girl, 1 camera" is probably on top of the list. Its in alphabetical order and the numbers come before the alphabet.
:2 cents:


see my post above

xvideos 07-15-2014 06:55 AM

That's right, many people thought a "channel" selection was mandatory and either picked the first one from the list, or a random one.

Phoenix 07-15-2014 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xvideos (Post 20158772)
Old videos and old account. We used to give access to sponsor link codes to any user, so that they could be responsible and promote the sites the videos were coming from.

It was a feature designed to benefit content owners but it turned out as being used randomly like in this case.

Now only channel accounts can use these link codes in players but we could not just revert all the old associations because many are valid.

This makes sense. Nice to see it cleaning up.

mineistaken 07-15-2014 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 20159023)
This makes sense. Nice to see it cleaning up.

Lets give props to fucking thieves just because once they acghieved traffic they started to steal less.

CaptainHowdy 07-15-2014 09:06 AM

It's Xvideos, what do you need to understand??

xvideos 07-16-2014 02:05 AM

You guys are fucking hypocrites. I'm sure you are using Youtube and Google regularly, like everyone, and probably the porn tubes too...

Wake up, this is 2014, top tubes now have the same features than YT : fingerprinting, content programs, channels etc.

But you probably never even looked, you're too busy making uninformed posts here to make $100 a month with your signature.

PornDiscounts-V 07-16-2014 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xvideos (Post 20159901)
You guys are fucking hypocrites. I'm sure you are using Youtube and Google regularly, like everyone, and probably the porn tubes too...

Wake up, this is 2014, top tubes now have the same features than YT : fingerprinting, content programs, channels etc.

But you probably never even looked, you're too busy making uninformed posts here to make $100 a month with your signature.

You caught me.

mineistaken 07-16-2014 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xvideos (Post 20159901)
You guys are fucking hypocrites. I'm sure you are using Youtube and Google regularly, like everyone, and probably the porn tubes too...

Wake up, this is 2014, top tubes now have the same features than YT : fingerprinting, content programs, channels etc.

But you probably never even looked, you're too busy making uninformed posts here to make $100 a month with your signature.

By hypocrites you mean that all those people are thieves and steals/stole content?

Roald 07-16-2014 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xvideos (Post 20159901)
...
But you probably never even looked, you're too busy making uninformed posts here to make $100 a month with your signature.

I can make $100 a month with my sig?!?!

nice :upsidedow

tony286 07-16-2014 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 20159986)
I can make $100 a month with my sig?!?!

nice :upsidedow

Yeah I thought that was done. Makes me miss Traffic Cash Gold. lol

tony286 07-16-2014 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xvideos (Post 20159901)
You guys are fucking hypocrites. I'm sure you are using Youtube and Google regularly, like everyone, and probably the porn tubes too...

Wake up, this is 2014, top tubes now have the same features than YT : fingerprinting, content programs, channels etc.

But you probably never even looked, you're too busy making uninformed posts here to make $100 a month with your signature.

Dude sometimes its good just to keep quiet. We all know the truth,so dont insult the board and yourself getting all indignant. :2 cents:

xvideos 07-16-2014 06:31 AM

I came here to give a fair answer to the OP.

I put 8 of you in ignore, who just pollute the debate with 0 argument.

I can discuss tubes, content and piracy in good faith but if you just want to rage I'm just going to ignore you.

PornMySex 07-16-2014 07:27 AM

Is it Stephane talking or was xvideos sold?


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