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DVTimes 08-24-2014 03:00 PM

Do mobile sites convert?
 
A while ago everyone got excited over mobile sites.

It seems to have been many months since I have seen anyone post about them.

So whats the conclusion?

I know myself that on my mobile I use apps mainly.

I hardly surf the web, unless I am looking up info.

Famemonster 08-24-2014 03:04 PM

some programs convert well for mobile for me while others i have not gotten a single signup. Mobile is big but some programs convert better than others for mobile.

JA$ON 08-24-2014 05:01 PM

In dating, over 60% of ALL our traffic and sales are mobile. And its growing. If mobile is not your top priority, you are missing out.

The days of "what are you doing with your mobile traffic"? are over. Mobile is the focus. Now we deal with that FIRST and figure out what to do with our desktop traffic second.

2c

Zeiss 08-24-2014 05:15 PM

Yes. They convert..

Umbalabob 08-25-2014 03:32 AM

Depending on the country, but countries where CC is not that common but mobile billing is available it is rocking.

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Nicky 08-25-2014 04:14 AM

Yep It converts, we direct our mobile and tablet traffic to a special version of our sites, works good.

Devostator 08-25-2014 04:36 AM

Yeahh!
of course!

DamianJ 08-25-2014 03:03 PM

Fuck me, you are such a fucking spastic. Do you have someone to remind you to breath?

clickity click 08-25-2014 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 20204608)
Fuck me, you are such a fucking spastic. Do you have someone to remind you to breath?

Hey, asshole. get a grip.

DamianJ 08-25-2014 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickity click (Post 20204611)
Hey, asshole. get a grip.

Not Beaner, which one are you?

Doesn't really matter, you'll be gone again soon enough. You always slip up. Or let me troll you into slipping up like a spastic.

Markul 08-26-2014 01:56 AM

Yup, SGM still converts a lot for a lot of people. Just don't do a blind redirect there or you risk the redirecting site being penalized.

PAR 08-26-2014 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 20205053)
Just don't do a blind redirect there or you risk the redirecting site being penalized.

+1

Your mobile site should show the same content as the desktop site.
That's what the user expects and that's what google expects you to do.
Change the layout but not the content.

Then it's all about testing and targeting the ads by Device, OS, GEO Browser; to get the best possible return.

Mobidea 08-27-2014 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 20203383)
A while ago everyone got excited over mobile sites.

It seems to have been many months since I have seen anyone post about them.

So whats the conclusion?

I know myself that on my mobile I use apps mainly.

I hardly surf the web, unless I am looking up info.


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Zeiss 08-27-2014 03:15 AM

I suggest you try VPSmobile :winkwink:

megapower 08-27-2014 03:33 AM

It converts more then great as long the website uses direct carrier billing and the visitor can subscribe with one or two clicks without to enter any CC, phone number, send SMS or whatever.... in a few countries this way you get 10%+ sales from visitors plus weekly or monthly rebills :-)

Barry-xlovecam 08-27-2014 07:46 AM

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TheMoneyMan 08-27-2014 09:24 AM

Mobile is hot right now and the volume is increasing very fast.

The Porn Nerd 08-27-2014 10:31 AM

In 3 years mobile will account for 80% of all sales.

BAKO 08-27-2014 11:12 AM

Mobile does very well. I'm doing double the mobile joins then desktop :)

NewNick 08-27-2014 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by megapower (Post 20206540)
It converts more then great as long the website uses direct carrier billing and the visitor can subscribe with one or two clicks without to enter any CC, phone number, send SMS or whatever.... in a few countries this way you get 10%+ sales from visitors plus weekly or monthly rebills :-)

Which countries have direct one click carrier billing for adult with subscriptions ?

iwantchixx 08-27-2014 01:21 PM

The whole "mobile market" is over-rated.

Pick up any common phone or tablet and surf a porn site.

Surprised that it works?

Most developers use responsive design and flash with html5 fall back (of vice-versa). Those who don't, need to rethink some things.

offer mobile billing options for mobile users along with credit card.

Done.

This is just my personal professional opinion but don't send your traffic to mobile brokers, they wont show products your customers are expecting. Have smart site design and you will be fine. For affiliates, find programs that have responsive sites (even then, most mobile browsers will fit desktop view to your browser and scale it down anyways, like a jpeg) and that do NOT redirect your mobile traffic away to a broker they made deals with. You won't get paid for that.

key is, as long as the paysite has mobile billing options, you dont need to worry about mobile traffic

The Porn Nerd 08-27-2014 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx (Post 20207214)
The whole "mobile market" is over-rated.

Pick up any common phone or tablet and surf a porn site.

Surprised that it works?

Most developers use responsive design and flash with html5 fall back (of vice-versa). Those who don't, need to rethink some things.

offer mobile billing options for mobile users along with credit card.

Done.

This is just my personal professional opinion but don't send your traffic to mobile brokers, they wont show products your customers are expecting. Have smart site design and you will be fine. For affiliates, find programs that have responsive sites (even then, most mobile browsers will fit desktop view to your browser and scale it down anyways, like a jpeg) and that do NOT redirect your mobile traffic away to a broker they made deals with. You won't get paid for that.

key is, as long as the paysite has mobile billing options, you dont need to worry about mobile traffic

Thing is - and maybe I need to re-visit this in 2014 - I couldn't find mobile billers who would process for a full $34.95 join. They all wanted by the minute or a fraction of that, if I am remembering correctly. So: know of any mobile billers that will allow a mobile charge of $34.95 or even $59.95? :)

(BTW I agree with your post. Most 'responsive' designs only benefit designers who charge for them.)

bluebook18 08-27-2014 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAKO (Post 20207073)
Mobile does very well.

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iwantchixx 08-27-2014 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20207230)
Thing is - and maybe I need to re-visit this in 2014 - I couldn't find mobile billers who would process for a full $34.95 join. They all wanted by the minute or a fraction of that, if I am remembering correctly. So: know of any mobile billers that will allow a mobile charge of $34.95 or even $59.95? :)

(BTW I agree with your post. Most 'responsive' designs only benefit designers who charge for them.)

That's a good point. Right now, we're limited to the same. But, I see repeat use all the time. Seems to work out decent. Probably not same as a monthly would be but its still decent. However, the credit card applications still work fine while mobile, where the bulk of the sales are with mobile users.

I don't think there are any global solutions available yet for monthly billing on mobile bills, but there are continent-specific companies that offer the services that I have seen and heard of in my travels.

Roald 08-28-2014 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20207230)
Thing is - and maybe I need to re-visit this in 2014 - I couldn't find mobile billers who would process for a full $34.95 join. They all wanted by the minute or a fraction of that, if I am remembering correctly. So: know of any mobile billers that will allow a mobile charge of $34.95 or even $59.95? :)

(BTW I agree with your post. Most 'responsive' designs only benefit designers who charge for them.)

You could charge $4.99 and just give them 5 days access recurring or something along those lines. So the initial amount is lower.

RyuLion 08-28-2014 12:15 AM

Yes they do...

MiamiBoyz 08-28-2014 01:24 AM

NO

If some college kid is going to whip one out between classes in the men's room on his mobile phone he's not paying for a members site...he's going to a tube and watching a 2 minute clip...draining the jizz and then onto his next class.

People at home don't site around looking at a tiny screen when they want to see HD video and are paying for it.

SO the answer is NO.

Icy 08-28-2014 02:41 AM

Quote:

Do mobile sites convert?
I'm really surprised at this question in 2014.

Unless you only care about USA/CA traffic or are talking about VOD credit card exclusively sponsor programs, mobile has been the king of adult revenue since like 3 years ago.

Check prices at any traffic broker or ad network for mobile vs desktop. For example, UK redirects from a mix of sites, tubes, blogs, etc, not SEO traffic of course and no niche traffic, $91 per 1k visits in a known network (I'm paying it right now). If such prices are being paid, it's for a reason.

Tell me a traditional desktop paysite that generates $91 per thousand visits from non SEO or highly targeted traffic.

We at Kimia have some super affiliates making $6k per day only buying mobile traffic from ad networks, brokers and sites directly. They are buying the traffic from those that think mobile doesn't make any money in 2014 or from those that think that mobile traffic outside USA/CA is worthless in 2014, or from those that think that they should block India or Thailand or Mexican mobile traffic because they are just freeloaders with no credit cards.

Some of the people posting and reading in this thread could post stats screenshots of their mobile revenue per country and the eCPM they get and those of you still asking if mobile makes money in 2014 won't believe it, but they prefer to shut up and smile.

Go to any webmaster event and take a look at the panels and what everybody is talking about, mobile.

Ask also the dating and cams programs, mobile is huge for them and I know because we send a lot of sales/leads to them.

Do some research, did you know that like 50% of internet traffic is now from mobile devices?

Again if you are only talking about classic VOD sites and credit card processing in USA/CA, then you might be right, mobile is maybe not as huge as desktop right now but there are some paysites making a lot on mobile already, I know as we send USA/CA traffic to them, but outside that, mobile is what saved this industry outside North America and it's growing non stop.

I'm always open to talk about mobile, hit me up if you are going to Amsterdam or Praha shows and want to talk about it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 20207206)
Which countries have direct one click carrier billing for adult with subscriptions ?

One click is pretty rare now as it was abused a lot 2 years ago, but 2 or three clicks carrier billing is available almost worldwide but in USA/CA and in some 3rd world countries. If you want to make money from Adult in Europe, Asia, Africa and Latin America, mobile is THE way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz

NO

If some college kid is going to whip one out between classes in the men's room on his mobile phone he's not paying for a members site...he's going to a tube and watching a 2 minute clip...draining the jizz and then onto his next class.

People at home don't site around looking at a tiny screen when they want to see HD video and are paying for it.

SO the answer is NO.

LOL, I bet you are not married and have the family shared computer sitting in the living room. Mobile has been huge for adult because privacy. Because nobody touches your mobile phone as it's one of the only thing that is totally yours and because you always have it close to you everywhere.

Do you really think that most of your customers jerk off in their living rooms in front of their 60" Tv's watching HD Porn??

Why do you think that MLB, NFL, NHL and NBA have mobile apps and offer paid subscriptions in those to watch full games live? Because they are used and a lot!

Mobile has been the real Internet revolution.

Klen 08-28-2014 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icy (Post 20207791)
I'm really surprised at this question in 2014.

Unless you only care about USA/CA traffic or are talking about VOD credit card exclusively sponsor programs, mobile has been the king of adult revenue since like 3 years ago.

Check prices at any traffic broker or ad network for mobile vs desktop. For example, UK redirects from a mix of sites, tubes, blogs, etc, not SEO traffic of course and no niche traffic, $91 per 1k visits in a known network (I'm paying it right now). If such prices are being paid, it's for a reason.

Tell me a traditional desktop paysite that generates $91 per thousand visits from non SEO or highly targeted traffic.

We at Kimia have some super affiliates making $6k per day only buying mobile traffic from ad networks, brokers and sites directly. They are buying the traffic from those that think mobile doesn't make any money in 2014 or from those that think that mobile traffic outside USA/CA is worthless in 2014, or from those that think that they should block India or Thailand or Mexican mobile traffic because they are just freeloaders with no credit cards.

Some of the people posting and reading in this thread could post stats screenshots of their mobile revenue per country and the eCPM they get and those of you still asking if mobile makes money in 2014 won't believe it, but they prefer to shut up and smile.

Go to any webmaster event and take a look at the panels and what everybody is talking about, mobile.

Ask also the dating and cams programs, mobile is huge for them and I know because we send a lot of sales/leads to them.

Do some research, did you know that like 50% of internet traffic is now from mobile devices?

Again if you are only talking about classic VOD sites and credit card processing in USA/CA, then you might be right, mobile is maybe not as huge as desktop right now but there are some paysites making a lot on mobile already, I know as we send USA/CA traffic to them, but outside that, mobile is what saved this industry outside North America and it's growing non stop.

I'm always open to talk about mobile, hit me up if you are going to Amsterdam or Praha shows and want to talk about it.



One click is pretty rare now as it was abused a lot 2 years ago, but 2 or three clicks carrier billing is available almost worldwide but in USA/CA and in some 3rd world countries. If you want to make money from Adult in Europe, Asia, Africa and Latin America, mobile is THE way.



LOL, I bet you are not married and have the family shared computer sitting in the living room. Mobile has been huge for adult because privacy. Because nobody touches your mobile phone as it's one of the only thing that is totally yours and because you always have it close to you everywhere.

Do you really think that most of your customers jerk off in their living rooms in front of their 60" Tv's watching HD Porn??

Why do you think that MLB, NFL, NHL and NBA have mobile apps and offer paid subscriptions in those to watch full games live? Because they are used and a lot!

Mobile has been the real Internet revolution.

Yep i can confirm how this man is right.And btw you have a nice program but your support rep pissed me off hard so i refuse to touch that program anymore :)

wouter112 08-28-2014 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeiss (Post 20206535)
I suggest you try VPSmobile :winkwink:

That's right! At VPSMobile we make sure you will get the maximum profit out of you mobile traffic!
At VPSmobile we offer high pay outs and high conversion rates! Hit us up if you need anything!

DVTimes 08-28-2014 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icy (Post 20207791)

Why do you think that MLB, NFL, NHL and NBA have mobile apps and offer paid subscriptions in those to watch full games live? Because they are used and a lot!

Mobile has been the real Internet revolution.

If I was into sport, of course I would pay.

After all people have for years listened on there radio when they could not get to a TV.

But porn is not something you watch walking down the street.

I just cannot see people going online, then serfing for poprn, then joining a site.

If your site really does convert, then post the link and I will have a look on my mobile.

The few times I have looked at porn was going direct to xhamster on my mobile.

I find even doing that a pain.

Not a huge choice.

And from time to time my phone says there could be viruses on the site.

I simply do not see people on a mobile phone searching in google for porn.

I can see tablets being different. Much bigger screens. Basically a laptop without a keyboard.

But for mobile it feels, well to be honest, out of date.

DVTimes 08-28-2014 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20206799)
We are seeing better and better conversions with http://mobile.xlovecam.com/ use a pc and click the setting to no flash ... Or use your smartpone or tablet -- if it is iOs or Android it will auto detect the no flash setting.

XloveCash/ACWM The affiliate program for XloveCam.com

I had a look on my mobile.

Its a nice site.

It froze a few times.

And its let down when you clicp payment as the external payment screens do not match the website. The first one for a credit card is not mobile friendly and you need to zoom in to put in your credit card details, which I am sure will put people off.

But the main site is nice and laid out well.

However its let down with the fact that its one way only. Having most mobile and tablets having a camera phone, I would think as a modern system it would allow the grl to see you if you so wanted. Indeed also chat rather than type text in.

When I used it I thought it would be better if I could chat one on one via voice rather than text.

Also I would also think it would be good if by moving my phone around I could move the models camera up and down and zoom in and out.

While I like the site, it feels a bit old still.

DVTimes 08-28-2014 05:35 AM

Also I find it odd when mobile sites ask for an email address.

Many people do not use email on there phone, so it seems to be self defeating.

I do have email on my phone, but even then I have to go to my app, which means leaving your site.

Others may have to go to say yahoo mail online, again leaving your site.

Surly its better that people get a text to confirm or somthing else.

Icy 08-28-2014 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 20207875)
I simply do not see people on a mobile phone searching in google for porn.

Ok, If you really think so, you can keep ignoring mobile...

DamianJ 08-28-2014 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 20207875)
If I was into sport, of course I would pay.

After all people have for years listened on there radio when they could not get to a TV.

But porn is not something you watch walking down the street.

I just cannot see people going online, then serfing for poprn, then joining a site.

If your site really does convert, then post the link and I will have a look on my mobile.

The few times I have looked at porn was going direct to xhamster on my mobile.

I find even doing that a pain.

Not a huge choice.

And from time to time my phone says there could be viruses on the site.

I simply do not see people on a mobile phone searching in google for porn.

I can see tablets being different. Much bigger screens. Basically a laptop without a keyboard.

But for mobile it feels, well to be honest, out of date.

Yes, but you need to remember you're fucking stupid, and don't have nor ever had a clue about anything.

Jman 08-28-2014 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JA$ON (Post 20203501)
In dating, over 60% of ALL our traffic and sales are mobile. And its growing. If mobile is not your top priority, you are missing out.

The days of "what are you doing with your mobile traffic"? are over. Mobile is the focus. Now we deal with that FIRST and figure out what to do with our desktop traffic second.

2c

:thumbsup:thumbsup

rsc 08-28-2014 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 20207875)
If I was into sport, of course I would pay.

After all people have for years listened on there radio when they could not get to a TV.

But porn is not something you watch walking down the street.

I just cannot see people going online, then serfing for poprn, then joining a site.

If your site really does convert, then post the link and I will have a look on my mobile.

The few times I have looked at porn was going direct to xhamster on my mobile.

I find even doing that a pain.

Not a huge choice.

And from time to time my phone says there could be viruses on the site.

I simply do not see people on a mobile phone searching in google for porn.

I can see tablets being different. Much bigger screens. Basically a laptop without a keyboard.

But for mobile it feels, well to be honest, out of date.

You really are missing the point. Mobile doesn't mean watching porn in the streets.
It means cellphones and tablets are replacing the desktop PC and laptop.
Why bother fucking around for a PC to boot up when a mobile device is always on and you can watch in bed - or wherever you are without being tied to a desk and chair - without fucking about with power supplies and cumbersome items.
Mobile devices are not only replacing the traditional personal computer but televisions as well.

Klen 08-28-2014 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 20208190)
Yes, but you need to remember you're fucking stupid, and don't have nor ever had a clue about anything.

Well i did told him how he is dumbass several times but it seems he just dont get it.

fuzebox 08-28-2014 11:28 AM

There's no such thing as "mobile" anymore :2 cents:

It's just people accessing content on a device. Your sites should be equally accessible on all devices, and you should filter your offers by what will convert which device and geo the best.

DCSRO 02-22-2015 07:44 AM

Hi Guys..
We just try SGM and there are really good ratio (We have now something about 1:80). Also we have many sales but each sales is very very low (from 0.01 euro to 6 euro top). We try it just one week. How can I get more then 0.01 euro per sales? Is there somebody who can help me (something better than SGM?)? Thanks (sorry for my english)...

CPA-Rush 02-22-2015 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 20207891)
Also I find it odd when mobile sites ask for an email address.

Many people do not use email on there phone, so it seems to be self defeating.

I do have email on my phone, but even then I have to go to my app, which means leaving your site.

Others may have to go to say yahoo mail online, again leaving your site.

Surly its better that people get a text to confirm or somthing else.

the real problem with cams traffic is that plenty of users find site with mobile !


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