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Juicy D. Links 09-15-2014 08:34 AM

New SCHOOL SPEED ZONE cameras in NY are fucking MONEY makers...
 
These things popped up over summer...

the speed in school zones is from 20-25 mph.... I dont condone speeding by schools but these cameras are fucking crazy.... 1 mph over the limit its a min $50 ticket..


This is the flash on em ... when this goes off your fucked


http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/content/w...32_630x354.jpg


This is what some look like

http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.co...0&h=349&crop=1




http://cdn.newsday.com/polopoly_fs/1..._600/image.png

Juicy D. Links 09-15-2014 08:34 AM

btw its had doing 20 mph .... try it and see


http://cdn.newsday.com/polopoly_fs/1..._600/image.JPG

420 09-15-2014 08:38 AM

http://i.imgur.com/4gW67gZ.gif

http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/my...ed-cameras.htm

wehateporn 09-15-2014 08:38 AM


Markul 09-15-2014 08:47 AM

We have those in my country, extra tax is what it is. They don't even put them up near schools or anywhere sensible - but in the middle of some god-forsaken-country road right after a turn. And the minimum fine is like $500 now. Fuckers.

wehateporn 09-15-2014 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 20226004)
We have those in my country, extra tax is what it is. They don't even put them up near schools or anywhere sensible - but in the middle of some god-forsaken-country road right after a turn. And the minimum fine is like $500 now. Fuckers.

$500, yikes! More like $100 here


Rochard 09-15-2014 09:18 AM

I got one at Phoenix Forum 2004.

http://www.rochardsbunnyranch.com/rock/ticket.jpg

On one hand I think these are horrible. This is nothing more than generating money for the local police. On the hand, when you see someone flying through the school zone at 40mph seconds after you drop your kid off at school, you are fine with them.

I (obviously) had a lead foot at one point. I've mellowed out since then.

freecartoonporn 09-15-2014 09:21 AM

been there , done that.

_Richard_ 09-15-2014 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20226051)
I got one at Phoenix Forum 2004.

http://www.rochardsbunnyranch.com/rock/ticket.jpg

On one hand I think these are horrible. This is nothing more than generating money for the local police. On the hand, when you see someone flying through the school zone at 40mph seconds after you drop your kid off at school, you are fine with them.

I (obviously) had a lead foot at one point. I've mellowed out since then.

this seems like bullshit.. it took a picture of you entering and leaving the intersection while yellow..? suggesting it turned yellow just as you hit the intersection?

SAMANTAmax 09-15-2014 09:26 AM

clever move.you don't see the opposite site what afect this cameras will bring.

Harmon 09-15-2014 09:26 AM

http://i.imgur.com/GVdIusw.jpg

Mutt 09-15-2014 09:29 AM

Make a statement - hit one of those little bastards every day until they take the camera down.

Rochard 09-15-2014 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20226065)
this seems like bullshit.. it took a picture of you entering and leaving the intersection while yellow..? suggesting it turned yellow just as you hit the intersection?

I guess so....

_Richard_ 09-15-2014 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20226108)
I guess so....

and i guess you just paid for it eh?

L-Pink 09-15-2014 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SAMANTAmax (Post 20226066)
clever move.you don't see the opposite site what afect this cameras will bring.

These are privately owned cameras and the local government gets a kick back. This is about one thing money.

onwebcam 09-15-2014 10:57 AM

They tried the traffic cams around here but had to remove them because too many people were challenging them and winning.

InfoGuy 09-15-2014 11:53 AM

This is how to fight and win a traffic camera ticket in the U.S.

- Don't be intimidated by the ticket. They are issued by private companies like RedFlex, not the government.
- Do NOT pay the ticket. This is an admission of guilt.
- File an appeal with the court.
- Declare the photo/video evidence as inadmissible, as it violates your 6th Amendment right to confront the witnesses against you.
- Cite the U.S. Supreme Court ruling in Melendez-Diaz v. Massachusetts (07-591), which stated that Massachusetts' admission of notarized certificates that were submitted as prima facie evidence violated the petitioner's 6th Amendment right to confront the witnesses against him.
- Cite Crawford v. Washington, 541 U.S. 36, which ruled that a witness' testimony is inadmissible unless the witness appears at trial, or if unavailable, that there was a prior opportunity for cross-examination.
- Demand that all these witnesses appear in court - policeman who issued the ticket, technician who calibrates and maintains the traffic camera and analyst who evaluated the photo evidence or have the evidence declared inadmissible.

The previous claims about this primarily being a money making opportunity for the city or municipality is correct. When you demand three witnesses to appear in court, they lose the financial incentive to pursue the ticket and it gets dismissed.

mineistaken 09-15-2014 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 20226004)
We have those in my country, extra tax is what it is. They don't even put them up near schools or anywhere sensible - but in the middle of some god-forsaken-country road right after a turn. And the minimum fine is like $500 now. Fuckers.

Fine of 500 if you speed 5-10km? I do not believe. Unless they flash only when you speed 30++ or something.

mineistaken 09-15-2014 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 20225977)
1 mph over the limit its a min $50 ticket..

For real? That is ridiculous. In most countries they have some buffer zone. Usually it is 10 or 20kmh speeding which is not being flashed.
Although on a slow speed school zone it would be lower, but still at least 3 or 5mph should be allowed.

femdomdestiny 09-15-2014 12:20 PM

I hate these cameras. There is one near my place flashing whole fucking day and it was set that if you go on yellow ,it will take your photo. But ,every one can go through yellow light in city traffic . It is taking photo 0.5 seconds after traffic light goes yellow so if you are there in that moment, you are fucked. This is just making pressure and tension and raising aggression.

Juicy D. Links 09-15-2014 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20226289)
For real? That is ridiculous. In most countries they have some buffer zone. Usually it is 10 or 20kmh speeding which is not being flashed.
Although on a slow speed school zone it would be lower, but still at least 3 or 5mph should be allowed.

They already forgave millions in tickets cause the cameras were put in over the summer with no school in session.... I do not think there is wiggle room...

CDSmith 09-15-2014 06:04 PM

They just put those up here in Winnipeg around elementary school zones, 30 km/h limit, which is about 20 mph. People going 10 km over have been getting $200 tickets over the past two weeks.

30km speed limit (20 mph)
40km speed (25 mph) = $200 ticket.

They aren't fucking around here. It will be a huge boost in revenue for the city and it'll save parents the bother of having to teach their kids to cross the street safely.

Jel 09-15-2014 06:08 PM

welcome to the UK

ErectMedia 09-15-2014 07:24 PM

Fuckin things all over Chicago, not a fan :2 cents:

Silk at ChimpoutTraffic 09-15-2014 07:39 PM

Yankee pigs.

VikingMan 09-15-2014 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20226051)
I got one at Phoenix Forum 2004.

http://www.rochardsbunnyranch.com/rock/ticket.jpg

On one hand I think these are horrible. This is nothing more than generating money for the local police. On the hand, when you see someone flying through the school zone at 40mph seconds after you drop your kid off at school, you are fine with them.

I (obviously) had a lead foot at one point. I've mellowed out since then.

In some states like California if the driver is not clearly you then you get out of the ticket. I cannot see your fact in that pic so you could perhaps have gotten out of the ticket.

I think in most states you can just ignore the ticket and nothing happens but as soon as you acknowledge the ticket you are fucked.

BIGTYMER 09-15-2014 09:51 PM

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Karen Finley, 54, the CEO of Redflex Traffic Systems Inc. until 2013, is accused of funneling nearly $600,000 in cash and other benefits to a retired Chicago official for his help in landing the firm $124 million in city contracts.
http://ktar.com/22/1758338/Feds-brin...camera-company

There is also an article on a red light camera company deleting tickets for its employees but I can't find it..

The cameras are cash cows at first but it drops off once people remember where they are. That's when they move them. It's a fucking racket. Or they drop the speed limit on a street right before putting in a camera. Crooks. Notice the cameras are also often more in mid to higher income areas.

mineistaken 09-16-2014 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VikingMan (Post 20226663)
In some states like California if the driver is not clearly you then you get out of the ticket. I cannot see your fact in that pic so you could perhaps have gotten out of the ticket.

I think in most states you can just ignore the ticket and nothing happens but as soon as you acknowledge the ticket you are fucked.

In some EU countries - ticketed is owner of the vehicle. Even if he did not drive (he must give up the one who did in that case if he wants to avoid paying the fine).

ErectMedia 09-16-2014 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 20226675)
The cameras are cash cows at first but it drops off once people remember where they are. That's when they move them. It's a fucking racket.

got this on my GPS...

http://www.garmin.com/us/extras/services/safetycamera


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