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crockett 10-06-2014 08:19 PM

Conservatives once again try to dumb down America's students.
 
This is likely not a very nationally publicized event but is shows how the Right Wing conservatives keep trying to dumb down our nations schools. In Texas they have been rather successful by white washing the history books and now they were recently trying to do the same in Colorado.

The Republican National Committee wasn't happy with a new History course being taught in CO, schools for advanced students, so they went to war and managed to secure a 3-2 conservative majority on the school board of Jefferson County whom then went on to approve a new resolution to whitewash the history class course.

They attempted to push a pro American agenda pushing a new agenda "promote citizenship, patriotism, essentials and benefits of the free enterprise system, respect for authority and respect for individual rights.” While downplaying civil disobedience and trying to turn students into good little followers.

The students and teachers decided not to be good little brainwashed worker bees and instead organized large scale call outs, sick outs and walk outs. They did this to the point schools actually had to shut down.

In the end, the school board caved due to pressure from the students, teachers and parents forcing the concertive school board majority to due away with their whitewashed history lessons..

Seems these ignorant right wingers seem to have forgotten this country and many of it's greatest achievements came by civil disobedience. Such as this very case..

Link to the RNC's whitewash agenda to dumb down students, which served as a catalyst for this episode..

https://cdn.gop.com/docs/RESOLUTION_...R Y_APUSH.pdf

A pretty good overview of how and why this took place.. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/dayligh...ory-whitewash/

This story didn't get a lot of national coverage, but it's important for all Americans to see the type of shit the Republican Party is trying to pull at the local levels across this country.

L-Pink 10-06-2014 08:23 PM

The hate in your posts is disturbing

crockett 10-06-2014 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20245319)
The hate in your posts is disturbing

The truth sucks doesn't it.

Rochard 10-06-2014 08:28 PM

This seems to be an article about nothing.

It's not white washing; It's grown ups acting like children debating things they aren't qualified to debate which is why they went into politics in the first place.

Teach whatever you want in school. About 90% of it is worthless anyhow. Then when kids grow up to be adults, they can discover the truth by themselves. I was taught in school that the US won WWII. Imagine my surprise.

L-Pink 10-06-2014 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20245323)
The truth sucks doesn't it.

The truth about what? You post nothing but political negatives. What kind of hate fills your thoughts? Get some help before you stroke out at too young an age.

crockett 10-06-2014 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20245324)
This seems to be an article about nothing.

It's not white washing; It's grown ups acting like children debating things they aren't qualified to debate which is why they went into politics in the first place.

Teach whatever you want in school. About 90% of it is worthless anyhow. Then when kids grow up to be adults, they can discover the truth by themselves. I was taught in school that the US won WWII. Imagine my surprise.

So you think these kids and teachers all protested for no reason? They should of just gone along with the dumbing down? Like good little mindless zombies?

crockett 10-06-2014 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20245328)
The truth about what? You post nothing but political negatives. What kind of hate fills your thoughts? Get some help before you stroke out at too young an age.

It's a negative if you agree that it's ok to rewrite history to fit your political agenda. However this is a story of students and teachers working together by using the very thing the school board was trying to whitewash.. That being civil disobedience and standing up for what is right not what someone in charge tells you to accept.

That to me seems pretty fucking positive, but I can see given your typical political outlook where it might be a negative to you.

SBJ 10-06-2014 08:49 PM

"try to dumb down America's students. "


too late!

see image..
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZFwva3JDKn...003_095854.jpg

Matt 26z 10-06-2014 09:00 PM

The "promote citizenship" part is what some parents, students and teachers had a problem with. That area of Colorado has become a magnet for illegal Mexicans.

crockett 10-06-2014 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 20245341)
The "promote citizenship" part is what some parents, students and teachers had a problem with. That area of Colorado has become a magnet for illegal Mexicans.

Yes those damn illegals...

http://s3.amazonaws.com/truth-prod/p...jpg?1411538511

Jefferson country is one of the Whitest areas in Denver with 79% white and only 14% Hispanic. 0.9% black...

theking 10-06-2014 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20245324)
This seems to be an article about nothing.

It's not white washing; It's grown ups acting like children debating things they aren't qualified to debate which is why they went into politics in the first place.

Teach whatever you want in school. About 90% of it is worthless anyhow. Then when kids grow up to be adults, they can discover the truth by themselves. I was taught in school that the US won WWII. Imagine my surprise.

Hmm...we did win WWII...did we not? My recollection of history we invaded Germany and demanded and received an unconditional surrender...did we not?

SuckOnThis 10-06-2014 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 20245341)
The "promote citizenship" part is what some parents, students and teachers had a problem with. That area of Colorado has become a magnet for illegal Mexicans.

:1orglaugh

I live close to that area and i can say that everything in your statement is complete bullshit.

onwebcam 10-06-2014 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20245317)
white washing the history books

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh As if the history books in school are actual fact. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

OldJeff 10-07-2014 02:35 AM

So the teachers are protesting because people want to teach something other than the usual NEA guided liberal brainwashing ?

Of course the biggest liberal group in the country would protest anything a republican suggests, kind of like you do Crockett

bushwacker 10-07-2014 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20245381)
:1orglaugh

I live close to that area and i can say that everything in your statement is complete bullshit.

As are most of his statements. :thumbsup

tony286 10-07-2014 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 20245370)
Hmm...we did win WWII...did we not? My recollection of history we invaded Germany and demanded and received an unconditional surrender...did we not?

If it wasn't for the russians, the war could of ended very differently. We lost 300,000 fighting, the russians lost over 10 million. What they didn't have in technology they made up in sheer numbers.

pornguy 10-07-2014 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBJ (Post 20245335)
"try to dumb down America's students. "


too late!

see image..
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZFwva3JDKn...003_095854.jpg


Its always funny to see people toss those things out saying Look how dumb Americans are. Sad thing is its not just Americans its the planet.

Dumb lazy and entitled.

pornguy 10-07-2014 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20245324)
This seems to be an article about nothing.

It's not white washing; It's grown ups acting like children debating things they aren't qualified to debate which is why they went into politics in the first place.

Teach whatever you want in school. About 90% of it is worthless anyhow. Then when kids grow up to be adults, they can discover the truth by themselves. I was taught in school that the US won WWII. Imagine my surprise.

They did not teach you that it was the Allied troops that won WWII and not just the Americans?

Hrm.

Or do I raise my arm in the wrong salute and the Gubment lets me get away with it but makes a mark in a book against me?

theking 10-07-2014 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 20245563)
If it wasn't for the russians, the war could of ended very differently. We lost 300,000 fighting, the russians lost over 10 million. What they didn't have in technology they made up in sheer numbers.

The Russians did not lose "10 million" soldiers and their Army would not even have fared as well as they did...without the "lend lease" of supplies provided by the U.S. Neither would have Britain.

The Allies...which included the U.S...won the war against the Axis...end of story.

12clicks 10-07-2014 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20245319)
The hate in your posts is disturbing

nailed it.

_Richard_ 10-07-2014 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 20245684)
The Russians did not lose "10 million" soldiers and their Army would not even have fared as well as they did...without the "lend lease" of supplies provided by the U.S. Neither would have Britain.

The Allies...which included the U.S...won the war against the Axis...end of story.

oh. sorry. 8.7 million.

gotta give it to hollywood, eh?

blackmonsters 10-07-2014 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBJ (Post 20245335)
"try to dumb down America's students. "


too late!

see image..
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZFwva3JDKn...003_095854.jpg

:1orglaugh

Grapesoda 10-07-2014 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20245317)
This is likely not a very nationally publicized event but is shows how the Right Wing conservatives keep trying to dumb down our nations schools. In Texas they have been rather successful by white washing the history books and now they were recently trying to do the same in Colorado.

The Republican National Committee wasn't happy with a new History course being taught in CO, schools for advanced students, so they went to war and managed to secure a 3-2 conservative majority on the school board of Jefferson County whom then went on to approve a new resolution to whitewash the history class course.

They attempted to push a pro American agenda pushing a new agenda "promote citizenship, patriotism, essentials and benefits of the free enterprise system, respect for authority and respect for individual rights.? While downplaying civil disobedience and trying to turn students into good little followers.

The students and teachers decided not to be good little brainwashed worker bees and instead organized large scale call outs, sick outs and walk outs. They did this to the point schools actually had to shut down.

In the end, the school board caved due to pressure from the students, teachers and parents forcing the concertive school board majority to due away with their whitewashed history lessons..

Seems these ignorant right wingers seem to have forgotten this country and many of it's greatest achievements came by civil disobedience. Such as this very case..

Link to the RNC's whitewash agenda to dumb down students, which served as a catalyst for this episode..

https://cdn.gop.com/docs/RESOLUTION_...R Y_APUSH.pdf

A pretty good overview of how and why this took place.. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/dayligh...ory-whitewash/

This story didn't get a lot of national coverage, but it's important for all Americans to see the type of shit the Republican Party is trying to pull at the local levels across this country.



conservatives in action... NOT :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/may...nsion-20130515

Grapesoda 10-07-2014 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20245317)

They attempted to push a pro American agenda pushing a new agenda "promote citizenship, patriotism, essentials and benefits of the free enterprise system, respect for authority and respect for individual rights.? While downplaying civil disobedience and trying to turn students into good little followers.

I hate to be the one to point this out to you...maybe your dad should be the one to tell you this: you're a dumb ass... without "citizenship, patriotism, essentials and benefits of the free enterprise system, respect for authority and respect for individual rights." there is nothing... you could move to Uganda?

Grapesoda 10-07-2014 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20245346)
Yes those damn illegals...

http://s3.amazonaws.com/truth-prod/p...jpg?1411538511

Jefferson country is one of the Whitest areas in Denver with 79% white and only 14% Hispanic. 0.9% black...

this is really funny...yeah why don't we let teenagers set the course study in public schools... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Grapesoda 10-07-2014 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBJ (Post 20245335)
"try to dumb down America's students. "


too late!

see image..
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZFwva3JDKn...003_095854.jpg

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
http://www.yoube.bz/school.jpg

Robbie 10-07-2014 09:44 AM

It's just a shame that crockett himself hasn't heeded these words while the current administration is in power:

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20245333)
That being civil disobedience and standing up for what is right not what someone in charge tells you to accept.


mineistaken 10-07-2014 09:50 AM

confused libtard gibberish

baddog 10-07-2014 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20245324)
I was taught in school that the US won WWII. Imagine my surprise.

I am afraid to ask


Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 20245563)
If it wasn't for the russians, the war could of ended very differently. We lost 300,000 fighting, the russians lost over 10 million. What they didn't have in technology they made up in sheer numbers.

Your point? "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."

Robbie 10-07-2014 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20245883)
Your point? "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."

Boy ain't that the truth.

Though I think that comment is more about politicians sending people to war without ever getting hurt themselves.

dyna mo 10-07-2014 10:08 AM

good. we all need to realize it's trendy to have an anti-american agenda. good for the repubs there to stand up to that silliness and try to keep history balanced.

tony286 10-07-2014 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20245883)
I am afraid to ask




Your point? "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."

First that quote doesnt work when we were fighting on the same side as the Russians. My point was if it wasnt for Russia, there is a good chance we would of lost world war 2. Thankfully Hitler made the same mistake as Napoleon and tried to evade Russia.

tony286 10-07-2014 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20245913)
good. we all need to realize it's trendy to have an anti-american agenda. good for the repubs there to stand up to that silliness and try to keep history balanced.

There is no balanced history, it is what is it. May not be pretty but its the history not a story to change at will.

crockett 10-07-2014 11:37 AM

It's quite funny how patriotic and how much flag waving you righties do right up till the point you have to pay your taxes...

420 10-07-2014 11:37 AM

this movie sucks

*walks out of theatre*

Sly 10-07-2014 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 20246057)
May not be pretty but its the history not a story to change at will.

Yes it is. "History" is about framing. How do you want to frame the story of your past? This whole argument is exact proof that history is framing. By leaving in some details and omitting others, you are effectively changing "history."

tony286 10-07-2014 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 20245684)
The Russians did not lose "10 million" soldiers and their Army would not even have fared as well as they did...without the "lend lease" of supplies provided by the U.S. Neither would have Britain.

The Allies...which included the U.S...won the war against the Axis...end of story.

yes they did
http://warchronicle.com/numbers/WWII/deaths.htm

dyna mo 10-07-2014 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 20246057)
There is no balanced history, it is what is it. May not be pretty but its the history not a story to change at will.

where did i say history is balanced? because I didn't. I said try and keep it balanced and that's exactly what they did.

Moreover, history is not what it is. That's an entirely erroneous statement. it's not 2+2 = 4 like math. it never was and never will be. It's completely open to interpretation and gets re-written at least once every generation.

theking 10-07-2014 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 20246065)

No they did not. You originally said the Russians lost 10 million...the chart says the Soviet Union lost 10 million not the Russians. So get your story straight.

tony286 10-07-2014 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 20246117)
No they did not. You originally said the Russians lost 10 million...the chart says the Soviet Union lost 10 million not the Russians. So get your story straight.

Russians were the soviet union now its Russia again. My story is fine, you seem to have problem with the truth that millions of Russians died in battle.

theking 10-07-2014 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 20246055)
First that quote doesnt work when we were fighting on the same side as the Russians. My point was if it wasnt for Russia, there is a good chance we would of lost world war 2. Thankfully Hitler made the same mistake as Napoleon and tried to evade Russia.

If it was not for the U.S. supplying the Soviet Union there is a good chance the Soviets may not have been able to repel the Germans...and in fact did not repel them entirely until after the the invasion of France by the U.S.

theking 10-07-2014 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 20246155)
Russians were the soviet union now its Russia again. My story is fine, you seem to have problem with the truth that millions of Russians died in battle.

Russia was just a part of the Soviet Union. I have known for most of my life that the Soviets...which included Russia...suffered more deaths during WWII...military and civilian...than any other country and I do not have a problem with that. You seem to have a problem with your statements.

crockett 10-07-2014 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 20246159)
If it was not for the U.S. supplying the Soviet Union there is a good chance the Soviets may not have been able to repel the Germans...and in fact did not repel them entirely until after the the invasion of France by the U.S.

Not to mention everyone seems to believe that the war for the US started and ended in Europe. The US was actually in Africa with the Brits and it was that very African campaign that saved the Russians asses.

Prior to the US and the Brits putting full pressure on Germany's oil resources, Russia was a dead duck. They had zero control over their own skies and it was only a matter of time before Germany over ran all of Russia.

The only thing that saved Russia's ass, was the fact that Hitler pulled almost all of the Luftwaffe out of the Russian campaign and sent them to Africa to fight the Americans and Brits. Hitler took the gamble that he could finish off Russia with out the air cover and that bit of breathing room is what allowed Russia to survive.

Added to this after Germany surrendered, the US went on to fight the Pacific theater and forced Japan into surrendering.

Those that claim the US's help was not a significant cause to winning the war do not know their history.

_Richard_ 10-07-2014 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 20246117)
No they did not. You originally said the Russians lost 10 million...the chart says the Soviet Union lost 10 million not the Russians. So get your story straight.

http://i.imgur.com/7lcTSEs.gif


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