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AdultKing 11-18-2014 02:06 AM

Fake Dating Profiles ?
 
Today I heard that several international consumer protection departments and agencies are about to team up and go after fake dating sites and dating sites using fake profiles in a very big way. This includes Australia, the UK and USA.

If it happens to your company don't complain there was no warning. :2 cents:

k0nr4d 11-18-2014 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20293414)
Today I heard that several international consumer protection departments and agencies are about to team up and go after fake dating sites and dating sites using fake profiles in a very big way. This includes Australia, the UK and USA.

If it happens to your company don't complain there was no warning. :2 cents:

I think you're pretty safe if your terms of service mention that you are not liable for the profiles. Besides that - they also would need to prove YOU setup the fake profiles too, and that would be hard to do sans access to the site's code...

There's also the question of what responsibility you have to adhere the will of any foreign "international consumer protection department".

AdultKing 11-18-2014 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 20293417)
There's also the question of what responsibility you have to adhere the will of any foreign "international consumer protection department".

I guess that kind of thinking goes right out the window if the FTC seize your domain name :2 cents:

Goethe 11-18-2014 02:24 AM

This issue has been brewing for a while. There have been a few stories about dating sites being used by scammers too.

Captain Kawaii 11-18-2014 02:47 AM

Free Trade Agreements - whooda thunk it?

Good news, AK.

Paul 11-18-2014 03:45 AM

I take it this is related to this article

BBC News - PositiveSingles STD dating site faces $16.5m penalty

SylviaMaroon 11-18-2014 04:26 AM

its a bit different it's about a dating site for ppl who have STD, and their confidential information got shared

what is interesting, that it says it was in the TOS that they were allowed to sue that stuff, and the judge says ppl don't read the TOS

i think a lot of sites counts on ppl not reading the TOS before agreeing to it

aka123 11-18-2014 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SylviaMaroon (Post 20293492)
its a bit different it's about a dating site for ppl who have STD, and their confidential information got shared

what is interesting, that it says it was in the TOS that they were allowed to sue that stuff, and the judge says ppl don't read the TOS

i think a lot of sites counts on ppl not reading the TOS before agreeing to it

Yes, at least in the EU people are not supposed to read the TOS thoroughly and this is taken into account in the legislation. So, the TOS is not some bullet proof vest for the seller. Also in general the service has to match with the image it gives/ what kind of service it is supposed to be. Dating site refers to real people communicating with each other with more or less real intentions to meet, etc. If the dating site is full of just bots and workers whose sole intent is to fake being real users, it doesn't match the definition of a dating site, and is thus a scam.

In simple you can't sell caviar that is actually pig shit, and get away with it mentioning with small print that it is actually pig shit. When you go to the store the customer has to be able to safely assume that caviar is caviar and not pig shit.

FriendsForNow 11-18-2014 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20293414)
Today I heard that several international consumer protection departments and agencies are about to team up and go after fake dating sites and dating sites using fake profiles in a very big way. This includes Australia, the UK and USA.

If it happens to your company don't complain there was no warning. :2 cents:

I've researched countless avenues concerning this for my future friendsfornow.com dating website. A large percentage of dating websites purchase fake profiles to elevate their business.

My research indicates John Albright from nude dating website nudeweb.com is by far the largest violator allowing the usage of countless copyrighted content images.

Klen 11-18-2014 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20293506)
Yes, at least in the EU people are not supposed to read the TOS thoroughly and this is taken into account in the legislation. So, the TOS is not some bullet proof vest for the seller. Also in general the service has to match with the image it gives/ what kind of service it is supposed to be. Dating site refers to real people communicating with each other with more or less real intentions to meet, etc. If the dating site is full of just bots and workers whose sole intent is to fake being real users, it doesn't match the definition of a dating site, and is thus a scam.

In simple you can't sell caviar that is actually pig shit, and get away with it mentioning with small print that it is actually pig shit. When you go to the store the customer has to be able to safely assume that caviar is caviar and not pig shit.

I can think of many examples where companies doing exactly same.(pigshit selling as caviler and that mention on small print)

seeandsee 11-18-2014 05:52 AM

roque uploaders and profile managers, problem sorted

TeenCat 11-18-2014 06:12 AM

if real, now, tell me, how will the dating companies make money? :helpme nobody will join when there will be only real ugly fat old women :2 cents: end of "dating" ... :1orglaugh

Validus 11-18-2014 06:22 AM

Do dating site systems automatically release new fake profiles based on the real women/men ratio? Also, do these systems reuse fake profiles?

aka123 11-18-2014 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 20293559)
if real, now, tell me, how will the dating companies make money? :helpme nobody will join when there will be only real ugly fat old women :2 cents: end of "dating" ... :1orglaugh

Bring some of those to my doorstep and I will bang those (one time deal). Did that answer to your question? :)

If folks get to bang real, ugly and fat women, there will be folks joining for sure. Getting frustrated for no results, not so good incentive. The problem is that there is lack of even from those ugly and fat women, at least considering that knights in the shining armor won't be lining to fuck them.

Barry-xlovecam 11-18-2014 06:33 AM

TOS clauses do not exculpate a site operator of willful wrongdoing or acquiescing, with knowledge, toward the wrongdoing of others using that site's services.

fuzebox 11-18-2014 11:37 AM

Adult dating sites have fake profiles? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

brassmonkey 11-18-2014 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 20293924)
Adult dating sites have fake profiles? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Goethe 11-18-2014 01:06 PM

I wonder if affiliates promoting dating sites with fake profiles may also face issues? I very much doubt it as the stuff is not on their server... Even so, I guess there's an opportunity for 'real' dating sites to spring up?

aka123 11-18-2014 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Goethe (Post 20294007)
I wonder if affiliates promoting dating sites with fake profiles may also face issues? I very much doubt it as the stuff is not on their server... Even so, I guess there's an opportunity for 'real' dating sites to spring up?

I haven't promoted penis pills or adult dating sites, as the first one is total bullshit and the latter for most parts (currently).

The risk for legal issues is quite diminishing, but I don't want to promote bullshit. But back to legal issues, the first part is to prove that you did know about the fake profiles, or at least should have known, etc. This thread is a good place to start investigating that. All hands up who knew about that. :)

Therealwini 11-19-2014 07:20 AM

Hi Guys,

Few things I would like to say :

Adult dating sites with no fakes do exist.
Adult Dating Platform users focused with great ROI for Affiliates exist, and provide charge back lower than nobody else would expect in the industry, but also a retention rate much higher.
Adult dating is not total bullshit, some dating sites provide a real community of like minded people, your users will get what they want.

Last but not least : DATING COMPANY AND DATING AFFILIATES CAN BE PROFITABLE WITH NO FAKES AT ALL !!!

If someone would like to find out more, feel free to ping me, or just reply here.

Cheers,

Jman 11-19-2014 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamHubpeople (Post 20294863)
Hi Guys,

Few things I would like to say :

Adult dating sites with no fakes do exist.
Adult Dating Platform users focused with great ROI for Affiliates exist, and provide charge back lower than nobody else would expect in the industry, but also a retention rate much higher.
Adult dating is not total bullshit, some dating sites provide a real community of like minded people, your users will get what they want.

Last but not least : DATING COMPANY AND DATING AFFILIATES CAN BE PROFITABLE WITH NO FAKES AT ALL !!!

If someone would like to find out more, feel free to ping me, or just reply here.

Cheers,

Bravo :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Barry-xlovecam 11-19-2014 08:33 AM

I don't want what I said above being misinterpreted.

I can't see affiliates of websites being prosecuted or fined for any wrongdoing by a website operator. Notwithstanding any outright fraudulent actions by affiliates. And as a practical matter, most affiliates are "small fish" to warrant a FTC investigation and hearings. They are looking for the "big fish" that can pay large fines.

They are no more likely to be fined than Yahoo! messenger or Skype is ...

Zeiss 11-19-2014 08:56 AM

What if they are only for illustrative purposes on a landing page? :1orglaugh

aka123 11-19-2014 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamHubpeople (Post 20294863)
Hi Guys,

Few things I would like to say :

Adult dating sites with no fakes do exist.
Adult Dating Platform users focused with great ROI for Affiliates exist, and provide charge back lower than nobody else would expect in the industry, but also a retention rate much higher.
Adult dating is not total bullshit, some dating sites provide a real community of like minded people, your users will get what they want.

Last but not least : DATING COMPANY AND DATING AFFILIATES CAN BE PROFITABLE WITH NO FAKES AT ALL !!!

If someone would like to find out more, feel free to ping me, or just reply here.

Cheers,

Ping, ping. :)

SmutHammer 11-19-2014 09:13 AM

Sounds like good news. Be nice if everyone had to actually run legit businesses.

Therealwini 11-19-2014 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jman (Post 20294902)
Bravo :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Not at all, Just doing a fair business, which is building up slowly but will be the solutions fairly soon?

Cheers Jman

Therealwini 11-19-2014 09:22 AM

SmutHammer, aka123

Get in touch with me on Skype or mail me in gfy :)

I will be happy to have a chat

Therealwini 11-19-2014 09:22 AM

Also how people feels about having a big Skype group live chat about it ?

SmutHammer 11-19-2014 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamHubpeople (Post 20295012)
SmutHammer, aka123

Get in touch with me on Skype or mail me in gfy :)

I will be happy to have a chat

I'm not an affiliate nor am I in the dating biz. :)

Therealwini 11-19-2014 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmutHammer (Post 20295041)
I'm not an affiliate nor am I in the dating biz. :)

But we are all swinging in the same sea, and legit business people should all swim together ;)

SmutHammer 11-19-2014 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by WilliamHubpeople (Post 20295071)
But we are all swinging in the same sea, and legit business people should all swim together ;)

Agree with that. They seem to be a little hard to find now a days though.

datingbanking 11-19-2014 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamHubpeople (Post 20294863)
Hi Guys,

Few things I would like to say :

Adult dating sites with no fakes do exist.
Adult Dating Platform users focused with great ROI for Affiliates exist, and provide charge back lower than nobody else would expect in the industry, but also a retention rate much higher.
Adult dating is not total bullshit, some dating sites provide a real community of like minded people, your users will get what they want.

Last but not least : DATING COMPANY AND DATING AFFILIATES CAN BE PROFITABLE WITH NO FAKES AT ALL !!!

If someone would like to find out more, feel free to ping me, or just reply here.

Cheers,

:thumbsup

Therealwini 11-19-2014 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmutHammer (Post 20295084)
Agree with that. They seem to be a little hard to find now a days though.

:thumbsup

freecartoonporn 11-19-2014 10:37 AM

there goes my future business plan.

seeric 11-19-2014 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamHubpeople (Post 20294863)
Hi Guys,

Few things I would like to say :

Adult dating sites with no fakes do exist.
Adult Dating Platform users focused with great ROI for Affiliates exist, and provide charge back lower than nobody else would expect in the industry, but also a retention rate much higher.
Adult dating is not total bullshit, some dating sites provide a real community of like minded people, your users will get what they want.

Last but not least : DATING COMPANY AND DATING AFFILIATES CAN BE PROFITABLE WITH NO FAKES AT ALL !!!

If someone would like to find out more, feel free to ping me, or just reply here.

Cheers,


Definitely.


Tinder, Craigslist, and Plenty of Fish are amazing sites.


:thumbsup

megapower 11-19-2014 10:55 AM

@seeric

Tinder? OK.... not by Tinder created but 50%+ are Fakes, many in the dating business operate automated Bots or hire stuff in India to collect members there :-) and yes this is on all free dating sites with serious traffic the same...

seeric 11-19-2014 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by megapower (Post 20295157)
@seeric

Tinder? OK.... not by Tinder created but 50%+ are Fakes, many in the dating business operate automated Bots or hire stuff in India to collect members there :-) and yes this is on all free dating sites with serious traffic the same...

That's exactly the point. The adult dating industry shits on everything worth using.

All the same ..... I know 100's of people here in LA, and many more folks around the country, and lot's of them are meeting real people on Tinder, CL, and POF. I've never heard ANYONE in my tenure in the adult business tell me they met anyone real on any of the "popular" adult dating sites, EVER.

:2 cents:


Take it for what it's worth.

iSpyCams 11-19-2014 02:24 PM

You guys are such assholes. There are hot women in my area that want to fuck me NOW I just need to pay 49.95 to upgrade my account to premium so I can see the location.

Apparently there no risk subscription to several other sites bundled in. I just really need the FTC to stop cock blocking me long enough to sneak out of my mom's house and set up at the motel 6 so these hot bitches can get on my dick.

I just need a few days and a credit card, is that so much to ask?

SmutHammer 11-19-2014 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeric (Post 20295170)
That's exactly the point. The adult dating industry shits on everything worth using.

All the same ..... I know 100's of people here in LA, and many more folks around the country, and lot's of them are meeting real people on Tinder, CL, and POF. I've never heard ANYONE in my tenure in the adult business tell me they met anyone real on any of the "popular" adult dating sites, EVER.

:2 cents:


Take it for what it's worth.

Yeah, I and friends of mine have met girls from POF Tinder and OkCupid.

I used to find guys on AFF to shoot with girls.

aka123 11-19-2014 03:12 PM

Yes, dating sites in general are real and working. I have met several girls from dating sites. These adult dating sites in general are different matter, but I am going give a try to one site. I mean business wise, not pussy wise.


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