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Rochard 11-28-2014 08:57 AM

Why haven't they arrested Michael Brown Senior?
 
Really strange.... I saw the father of Michael Brown shouting "Burn this bitch down" during a riot and hours later a dozen buildings were on fire causing millions of dollars of damage. Why haven't they arrested him for inciting a riot?

I mean... He was the center of the protest and he was yelling out to everyone at the protest to "burn the bitch down" and that's exactly what they did.

Captain Kawaii 11-28-2014 08:59 AM

with you on this one.

blackmonsters 11-28-2014 09:00 AM

Maybe you should organize a protest march to get the grand jury to indict him.

blackmonsters 11-28-2014 09:02 AM

Every talking head in American predicted a riot but now we know it was only one guy who started it.

:1orglaugh

crockett 11-28-2014 09:02 AM

Why just arrest him, they should be arresting anyone they can identify. I'm all for people's right to assemble and protest, but they only assemble to loot and vandalize.

Captain Kawaii 11-28-2014 09:02 AM

i think he flashed the right gang signs so its a pass...for now. :thumbsup

Rochard 11-28-2014 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20304925)
Every talking head in American predicted a riot but now we know it was only one guy who started it.

:1orglaugh

I disagree. It could have been very peaceful. He encouraged very one to "burn the bitch down". And that's exactly what they did.


dyna mo 11-28-2014 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20304925)
Every talking head in American predicted a riot but now we know it was only one guy who started it.

:1orglaugh

the inciting a riot law doesn't include a stipulation that a riot actually starts.

According to 18 USCS § 2102 "to incite a riot", or "to organize, promote, encourage, participate in, or carry on a riot", includes, but is not limited to, urging or instigating other persons to riot, but shall not be deemed to mean the mere oral or written (1) advocacy of ideas or (2) expression of belief, not involving advocacy of any act or acts of violence or assertion of the rightness of, or the right to commit, any such act or acts.?

Incite a Riot Law & Legal Definition

Rochard 11-28-2014 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20304935)
the inciting a riot law doesn't include a stipulation that a riot actually starts.

According to 18 USCS § 2102 "to incite a riot", or "to organize, promote, encourage, participate in, or carry on a riot", includes, but is not limited to, urging or instigating other persons to riot, but shall not be deemed to mean the mere oral or written (1) advocacy of ideas or (2) expression of belief, not involving advocacy of any act or acts of violence or assertion of the rightness of, or the right to commit, any such act or acts.?

Incite a Riot Law & Legal Definition

But a riot did start....

Captain Kawaii 11-28-2014 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20304925)
Every talking head in American predicted a riot but now we know it was only one guy who started it.

:1orglaugh

YOU ARE CORRECT. Sharpton and Jackson should be charged as well but they suck the right cock so probably a pass.

dyna mo 11-28-2014 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20304941)
But a riot did start....

no shit? I had no fucking idea.

nevertheless, a riot starting is not a requirement to charge someone with inciting a riot.

Not sure why you can't see that I am in agreement.

do you need me to say it directly?

blackmonsters 11-28-2014 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20304935)
the inciting a riot law doesn't include a stipulation that a riot actually starts.

According to 18 USCS § 2102 "to incite a riot", or "to organize, promote, encourage, participate in, or carry on a riot", includes, but is not limited to, urging or instigating other persons to riot, but shall not be deemed to mean the mere oral or written (1) advocacy of ideas or (2) expression of belief, not involving advocacy of any act or acts of violence or assertion of the rightness of, or the right to commit, any such act or acts.?

Incite a Riot Law & Legal Definition

300 posters on this board could be arrested for that.

:1orglaugh

dyna mo 11-28-2014 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20304946)
300 posters on this board could be arrested for that.

:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh

pornguy 11-28-2014 09:14 AM

They wont arrest them because they are scared of the black community in general.

blackmonsters 11-28-2014 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 20304943)
YOU ARE CORRECT. Sharpton and Jackson should be charged as well but they suck the right cock so probably a pass.

I hear ya man. A white cop killed a black dude so lets charge every black person we can with a crime to fix that.

:thumbsup

dyna mo 11-28-2014 09:22 AM

the thing is, this dude had a choice, he could have been george clooney and told everyone to be cool.


VikingMan 11-28-2014 09:29 AM

Because everyone is racist and biased and the most racist people are the ones who claim they are not racist.

white guy driving down the street less likely to get pulled over

white person in store less likely to get watched by security guards

white guy attacks a black guy and will probably get charged with a hate crime

black guy yells racial slurs while attacking white person and it is highly unlikely he will get charged with a hate crime and the media will cover it up

black guy incites a riot and media tries covering it up at first but even when the video gets out there are no charges

white guy incites a riot and it will be headline news 24/7 and of course he will get charged with a crime.

And lets not even get into the differences of how the media and law enforcement treat men and women who commit the same exact crimes.

Humans are biased and always will be. Depending on the situation most people treat it much differently based on skin color and gender.

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Axeman 11-28-2014 09:32 AM

Because it wasn't Michael Brown Sr who said it.

It was Mike Brown's step father. Not his father.

CDSmith 11-28-2014 09:41 AM

Why is it a bad idea to throw gas on a fire?

I agree the guy should have been arrested big time, but come on, think. Yes he was inciting a riot, but THAT would have incited an even bigger outrage.

L-Pink 11-28-2014 10:10 AM

Actually issuing a false statement to a police officer by those that saw nothing or fabricated what the did see helped the pot simmer before the grand jury results were even read.

candyflip 11-28-2014 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20304914)
Really strange.... I saw the father of Michael Brown shouting "Burn this bitch down" during a riot and hours later a dozen buildings were on fire causing millions of dollars of damage. Why haven't they arrested him for inciting a riot?

I mean... He was the center of the protest and he was yelling out to everyone at the protest to "burn the bitch down" and that's exactly what they did.

I wouldn't expect you to know this, beacause well...you're semi-retarded, but that was his stepfather. Not his father.

SuckOnThis 11-28-2014 10:17 AM

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/...2iz9k0hjpg.jpg

JA$ON 11-28-2014 10:30 AM

Because it would be a PR nightmare

Rochard 11-28-2014 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axeman (Post 20304992)
Because it wasn't Michael Brown Sr who said it.

It was Mike Brown's step father. Not his father.

I didn't know that; I just assumed it was the father.

No matter. He should be arrested. He started a riot that resulted in millions of dollars in damages.

Horatio Caine 11-28-2014 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20304964)
I hear ya man. A white cop killed a black dude so lets charge every black person we can with a crime to fix that.

:thumbsup

Ah, here it is again - every, all, none.. Who elected you to speak for entire community?

stickyfingerz 11-28-2014 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 20305039)
I wouldn't expect you to know this, beacause well...you're semi-retarded, but that was his stepfather. Not his father.

Facts don't matter to him from what I've seen.

Cherry7 11-28-2014 11:09 AM

http://www.ernstversusencana.ca/wp-c...he-unheard.jpg

brassmonkey 11-28-2014 11:11 AM

because it would be worse! :2 cents: did you know north korea sides with the father??

dyna mo 11-28-2014 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 20305105)

context, not snippets.

::::::::::::

The message seems clear. Martin Luther King Jr. saw violence as a legitimate form of protest.

That assertion, however, couldn?t be more wrong.

King understood the cause of rioting in the mid ?60s, but he hardly approved of them.

King made his comment to Mike Wallace of CBS News in 1966 as his leadership and strategy of non-violence was being theatened by more militant activists like Stokely Carmichael.

?If every Negro in America turns their back on non-violence, I?m going to stand up as the lone voice and say this is the wrong way,? he said in a speech, then reiterated the point in the interview with Wallace.

?I think for the Negro to turn to turn to violence would be both impractical and immoral,? he said.

Wallace pressed King, noting that younger leaders had a different approach, and King acknowledged the new leaders were advocating violence, a strategy that had its followers.

?I don?t think these leaders will be able to make a real dent in the Negro community in terms of swaying 22 million Negroes to this particular point of view. And I contend this cry of ?Black Power? is at bottom a reaction to the reluctance of white power to make the kind of changes necessary to make justice the reality for the Negro.

?I think we?ve got to see that a riot is the language of the unheard and what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear the economic plight of the Negro poor which has worsened over the last few years,? he said.

?Riots are self defeating and socially destructive,? he said.

brassmonkey 11-28-2014 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20305112)
context, not snippets.

::::::::::::

The message seems clear. Martin Luther King Jr. saw violence as a legitimate form of protest.

That assertion, however, couldn?t be more wrong.

King understood the cause of rioting in the mid ?60s, but he hardly approved of them.

King made his comment to Mike Wallace of CBS News in 1966 as his leadership and strategy of non-violence was being theatened by more militant activists like Stokely Carmichael.

?If every Negro in America turns their back on non-violence, I?m going to stand up as the lone voice and say this is the wrong way,? he said in a speech, then reiterated the point in the interview with Wallace.

?I think for the Negro to turn to turn to violence would be both impractical and immoral,? he said.

Wallace pressed King, noting that younger leaders had a different approach, and King acknowledged the new leaders were advocating violence, a strategy that had its followers.

?I don?t think these leaders will be able to make a real dent in the Negro community in terms of swaying 22 million Negroes to this particular point of view. And I contend this cry of ?Black Power? is at bottom a reaction to the reluctance of white power to make the kind of changes necessary to make justice the reality for the Negro.

?I think we?ve got to see that a riot is the language of the unheard and what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear the economic plight of the Negro poor which has worsened over the last few years,? he said.

?Riots are self defeating and socially destructive,? he said.

man you are a fucking idiot :disgust there is no other option

Axeman 11-28-2014 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20305078)
I didn't know that; I just assumed it was the father.

No matter. He should be arrested. He started a riot that resulted in millions of dollars in damages.

Don't disagree. Also think those most blatant liars that went on the news right away and hyped up the shot in the back and hands up narrative, should also be charged with perjury when they lied to the FBI and Grand Jury. In the end they are what got this whole ball rolling back on August 9th. Of course, the media took that ball and ran with it as fast as possible, and for the most part, still are.

Captain Kawaii 11-28-2014 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20304964)
I hear ya man. A white cop killed a black dude so lets charge every black person we can with a crime to fix that.

:thumbsup

Naw, man. You missin the message. The message: STAY OFF THE RADAR. Work UNDER the radar. It works for the cartels en Mexico. :thumbsup

dyna mo 11-28-2014 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20305121)
man you are a fucking idiot :disgust there is no other option

you think MLK is an idiot because he preached non-violent demonstrations, got it.

seeandsee 11-28-2014 11:33 AM

They will arrest all, give them some time

Sunny Day 11-28-2014 11:52 AM

Arrest The Real Liars
 
Seems the prosecutors lied to the grand jury about Mo law and whether or not the Supreme Court decisions overrule state law.

Shocking mistake in Darren Wilson grand jury | MSNBC

brassmonkey 11-28-2014 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20305140)
you think MLK is an idiot because he preached non-violent demonstrations, got it.

no you are!

dyna mo 11-28-2014 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20305181)
no you are!

you think I'm an idiot for taking the time to look up the MLK quote and read it in the context in which it was meant, got it.

blackmonsters 11-28-2014 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunny Day (Post 20305175)
Seems the prosecutors lied to the grand jury about Mo law and whether or not the Supreme Court decisions overrule state law.

Shocking mistake in Darren Wilson grand jury | MSNBC

Unbelievable.

Of course I only say unbelievable because that's the thing to say.
I believe every bit of it.

There was no mistake, that was done on purpose.

Tom_PM 11-28-2014 12:39 PM

You can't be surprised that the prosecutors did everything they could to get the cop off. Police are not hired to serve and protect. They are hired to enforce existing laws, and more importantly, gather evidence for the prosecutors office in case they want to bring cases. Judges consider their reports and word as facts, so much so that if it doesn't exist in a signed police report, then it didn't happen. They are very very privileged under the law and will get every last benefit that there is to get.

Shenanigans by the asst. prosecutor in giving false law information to the grand jury is super scum baggery and totally expected.

jaYMan 11-28-2014 12:52 PM

widespread panic, obstruction, bet there is alot more he could be brought up on. I'd nsa his past 20 years... I mean i know he is in grieving but get people to "burn this bitch" down isn't very smart... don't they live in that "bitch" >>? like shitting where you eat

baddog 11-28-2014 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20304914)
Really strange.... I saw the father of Michael Brown shouting "Burn this bitch down" during a riot and hours later a dozen buildings were on fire causing millions of dollars of damage. Why haven't they arrested him for inciting a riot?

I mean... He was the center of the protest and he was yelling out to everyone at the protest to "burn the bitch down" and that's exactly what they did.

No you did not; that was his step-father

baddog 11-28-2014 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom_PM (Post 20305225)
Shenanigans by the asst. prosecutor in giving false law information to the grand jury is super scum baggery and totally expected.

What false info did he give the grand jury?

dyna mo 11-28-2014 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20305207)
Unbelievable.

Of course I only say unbelievable because that's the thing to say.
I believe every bit of it.

There was no mistake, that was done on purpose.

this is an assistant DA in bumfuck missouri, it was total incompetency. She researched the law, came across this statute and did not bother to research further.

dyna mo 11-28-2014 01:02 PM

In fact, she corrected her blunder later:
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::

Previously in the very beginning of this process I printed out a statute for you that was, the statute in Missouri for the use of force to effect an arrest. So if you all want to get those out, what we have discovered, and we have been going along with this, doing our research, is that the statute in the State of Missouri does not comply with the case law . . . and so the statute for the use of force to effect an arrest in the State of Missouri does not comply with Missouri Supreme, I'm sorry, United States Supreme Court cases. So the statute I gave you, if you want to fold that in half just so that you know don't necessarily rely on that because there is a portion of that that doesn't comply with the law. (Emphasis added).

Tom_PM 11-28-2014 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20305236)
What false info did he give the grand jury?

She handed them a law from before 1985 that allowed police to shoot people who were trying to get away from them. One example of this was a guy who spit on a cop then ran away. He was shot while running and died. There were no charges.

That law was overturned by the supreme court in 1985 and yet somehow, just by random error / rogue employee chance, she accidentally handed the old law to the grand jury who had it for weeks before the so-called "correction" was issued. Shenanigans. Lets not pretend she was incompetent and retains her job. We all know it was intentional to mislead the jury. We KNOW it was. "We" meaning every human on the planet with more than 1/4th of a brain.

Sunny Day 11-28-2014 01:38 PM

Lies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 20305236)
What false info did he give the grand jury?

Shocking mistake in Darren Wilson grand jury | MSNBC

nico-t 11-28-2014 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20305121)
man you are a fucking idiot :disgust there is no other option

so you condone those riots? What the fuck have they accomplished aside from making themselves look like uncivilized dumbasses and destroying their own community? Great success!

Axeman 11-28-2014 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom_PM (Post 20305278)
She handed them a law from before 1985 that allowed police to shoot people who were trying to get away from them. One example of this was a guy who spit on a cop then ran away. He was shot while running and died. There were no charges.

That law was overturned by the supreme court in 1985 and yet somehow, just by random error / rogue employee chance, she accidentally handed the old law to the grand jury who had it for weeks before the so-called "correction" was issued. Shenanigans. Lets not pretend she was incompetent and retains her job. We all know it was intentional to mislead the jury. We KNOW it was. "We" meaning every human on the planet with more than 1/4th of a brain.

Except as Dyna Mo pointed out above you:

"In fact, she corrected her blunder later:
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::

Previously in the very beginning of this process I printed out a statute for you that was, the statute in Missouri for the use of force to effect an arrest. So if you all want to get those out, what we have discovered, and we have been going along with this, doing our research, is that the statute in the State of Missouri does not comply with the case law . . . and so the statute for the use of force to effect an arrest in the State of Missouri does not comply with Missouri Supreme, I'm sorry, United States Supreme Court cases. So the statute I gave you, if you want to fold that in half just so that you know don't necessarily rely on that because there is a portion of that that doesn't comply with the law. (Emphasis added)."

blackmonsters 11-28-2014 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20305237)
this is an assistant DA in bumfuck missouri, it was total incompetency. She researched the law, came across this statute and did not bother to research further.

Yeah, everybody goes to law school so they be a dumb fuck when asked about the law.
Yep, that's why they pass the bar exam because they don't know shit.
No cop ever killed anybody before so why would a lawyer ever look this shit up right?

When people this smart make mistakes this big it's because they think we are all fucking dumb.


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