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disinfected 11-28-2014 05:10 PM

Tube Owners - CPM worth?
 
What's the current going "payment" currently for CPM "clicks" (1000 clicks).

Can you tell me what you are getting from going through an advertiser, then compare to downtime and what it would be worth to "always" have that spot filled knowing you will be getting paid day in and day out?

Thanks, not wishful thinking please. What's actually happening now and the reality of how much time the spot is not filled by that CPM number.

Thanks Hogs!

svzcom 11-28-2014 05:18 PM

CPM??
You want to say CPC
Give a try to Plug Rush and you will be "amazed" :)

Klen 11-28-2014 05:19 PM

It is different country from country.

disinfected 11-28-2014 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svzcom (Post 20305510)
CPM??
You want to say CPC
Give a try to Plug Rush and you will be "amazed" :)

Honestly, I have no idea what they call anything these days. I have seen it being called CPM but just to represent 1000 and it being clicked.

So yes, CPC... 1000 clicks.... what you getting tube owner for sending 1000 clicks off your site?

Klen 11-28-2014 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by disinfected (Post 20305514)
Honestly, I have no idea what they call anything these days. I have seen it being called CPM but just to represent 1000 and it being clicked.

So yes, CPC... 1000 clicks.... what you getting tube owner for sending 1000 clicks off your site?

It also depend what method you use to send traffic - could be popunder,banner,plug,etc..

disinfected 11-28-2014 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 20305518)
It also depend what method you use to send traffic - could be popunder,banner,plug,etc..

clicked... banner spot, next to video or on home page.

freecartoonporn 11-28-2014 07:32 PM

$0.02:boyalley

xXXtesy10 11-28-2014 09:51 PM

stupid fuck

disinfected 11-28-2014 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXXtesy10 (Post 20305671)
stupid fuck

This is an offer to pay straight without an ad broker. It the $/k works for my shit then will be buying it all up.

Xxx, your shit against diez made me raise an eyebrow. Your statement here just told me you a thirld world coutry camel humper. I will ask diez why you have such an agenda against him. See, you had any traffic you would be putting out numbers, not insults.

I'm currently buying and wondering what current prices are at. They have been dropping consistently so lets make a deal that is fair and works....

Or put your site up on an ad broker and hope you land a 7, 14, or monthly deal.

disinfected 11-29-2014 01:04 AM

Anyone... chirp

Klen 11-29-2014 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by disinfected (Post 20305696)
This is an offer to pay straight without an ad broker. It the $/k works for my shit then will be buying it all up.

I'm currently buying and wondering what current prices are at. They have been dropping consistently so lets make a deal that is fair and works....

Or put your site up on an ad broker and hope you land a 7, 14, or monthly deal.

Confusing,are you a advertiser or publisher,or both ?

seeandsee 11-29-2014 04:01 AM

What is your geo?
How will you serve ads?
What is your volume?
1000clicks = 0.01$ - 100$

thommy 11-29-2014 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by disinfected (Post 20305502)
What's the current going "payment" currently for CPM "clicks" (1000 clicks).

Can you tell me what you are getting from going through an advertiser, then compare to downtime and what it would be worth to "always" have that spot filled knowing you will be getting paid day in and day out?

Thanks, not wishful thinking please. What's actually happening now and the reality of how much time the spot is not filled by that CPM number.

Thanks Hogs!

it really depend on many things:

country
web or mobile
niche
etc....

in our network you will have always ads present for every country - the price depend on bidding situation and country - if you want try out, let me know.

greez

thommy

Markul 11-29-2014 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by disinfected (Post 20305696)
This is an offer to pay straight without an ad broker. It the $/k works for my shit then will be buying it all up.

Xxx, your shit against diez made me raise an eyebrow. Your statement here just told me you a thirld world coutry camel humper. I will ask diez why you have such an agenda against him. See, you had any traffic you would be putting out numbers, not insults.

I'm currently buying and wondering what current prices are at. They have been dropping consistently so lets make a deal that is fair and works....

Or put your site up on an ad broker and hope you land a 7, 14, or monthly deal.

For CPC, CreamyAds pays quite well these days, for CPM I would go with AdamoAds - test both out and see what works best. If you need more, check out this list :thumbsup

Jel 11-29-2014 07:58 AM

I believe he is asking what your spots are worth, and offering to buy them direct instead of you selling to an ad network/him buying via them. Cutting out the middle man :2 cents:

Klen 11-29-2014 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20305967)
I believe he is asking what your spots are worth, and offering to buy them direct instead of you selling to an ad network/him buying via them. Cutting out the middle man :2 cents:

Yes figured that out lol

disinfected 11-29-2014 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20305967)
I believe he is asking what your spots are worth, and offering to buy them direct instead of you selling to an ad network/him buying via them. Cutting out the middle man :2 cents:

Correct :)

I like to make deals one on one and also what in the world is the going rate +/-?

Just the spot so mobile and desktop is in the mix. $3 per 1000? For the love of god someone please start posting some numbers.

Klen 11-30-2014 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by disinfected (Post 20306623)
Correct :)

I like to make deals one on one and also what in the world is the going rate +/-?

Just the spot so mobile and desktop is in the mix. $3 per 1000? For the love of god someone please start posting some numbers.

I was selling traffic directly many times but it was never paid per k,it was always either per week or per month so cant help you with that :) I am quite sure most of other folks wouldn't not want to sell per k either,regardless do they have small or big amount of traffic.

thommy 11-30-2014 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by disinfected (Post 20306623)
Correct :)

I like to make deals one on one and also what in the world is the going rate +/-?

Just the spot so mobile and desktop is in the mix. $3 per 1000? For the love of god someone please start posting some numbers.

a number would not help you, because the value of a single click can be 0,0001 $ or 1,00 $ - depend on the productivity.

If I understand correct, you want to sell an adspot, fill it with a deffined bannerimage and sell the result per click (or per 1000 clicks).

but I think you will never get the same result on that as with a prfessional partner who not only look at the price but also on the clickrate of an ad.

what isays clickprice of even 0,10 $ if the clickrate is 0,01% ????

it is the same result as a īprice of 0,01 and a clickrate of 0,1%.

if you ever tried this spot for promoting an affiliate programm, just divide your affiliate income with the number of clicks you have sendet - than you have the REAL VALUE.

greez

thommy

disinfected 11-30-2014 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 20306730)
I was selling traffic directly many times but it was never paid per k,it was always either per week or per month so cant help you with that :) I am quite sure most of other folks wouldn't not want to sell per k either,regardless do they have small or big amount of traffic.

Why though? I don't understand?

I know what average Joe Shmoe tube converts on my site and would like average joe shmoe tube traffic and work out some deals.

Really... this needs to go through a traffic broker? I ran a tube site with 8K traffic that couldn't make a fucking sale if it was going to be the last sale of the century. Now, tube to good to respond to this disinfected thread?

GIVE ME THE NUMBERS BITCHES!

disinfected 11-30-2014 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 20306743)
a number would not help you, because the value of a single click can be 0,0001 $ or 1,00 $ - depend on the productivity.

If I understand correct, you want to sell an adspot, fill it with a deffined bannerimage and sell the result per click (or per 1000 clicks).

but I think you will never get the same result on that as with a prfessional partner who not only look at the price but also on the clickrate of an ad.

what isays clickprice of even 0,10 $ if the clickrate is 0,01% ????

it is the same result as a īprice of 0,01 and a clickrate of 0,1%.

if you ever tried this spot for promoting an affiliate programm, just divide your affiliate income with the number of clicks you have sendet - than you have the REAL VALUE.

greez

thommy

Here is problem with ad broker traffic... the guys selling via brokers hone their game by buying a shit ton of absolutely garbage traffic. They know they have a good site ranking a key term that others may want, so what they do is dilute the shit out of that traffic with the absolute complete shit traffic they can find. They then try to sell the "entire" package of 10% good traffic and 90% shit traffic for the 10% price.

Working direct with seller I can get a much better gauge on the traffic "worth" and also cut out you, the middleman. See what I'm saying?

Let's not even start with the bullshit bots that run rampant in ad purchase campaigns... :Oh crap

ITraffic 11-30-2014 08:21 AM

just go to juicy ads do your research and pick individual sites to buy ads on. you can get some good deals if you do your homework.

thommy 11-30-2014 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by disinfected (Post 20306933)
Here is problem with ad broker traffic... the guys selling via brokers hone their game by buying a shit ton of absolutely garbage traffic. They know they have a good site ranking a key term that others may want, so what they do is dilute the shit out of that traffic with the absolute complete shit traffic they can find. They then try to sell the "entire" package of 10% good traffic and 90% shit traffic for the 10% price.

might be true - thatīs why i did it different ;-)

Quote:

Working direct with seller I can get a much better gauge on the traffic "worth" and also cut out you, the middleman. See what I'm saying?
ok then letīs do a short quote on the revenue you lost already to find this one advertiser and the next after that one is gone;-)

believe me or not - if you try to do all on your own, you will get lost. you can maybe cut the butcher out bút not the farmer. you can possibly even build your own car if you are able to buy all that middlemen what are nessecary to build a car.

and last not least: why donīt you cut out the advertiser and do your own fitting product, if your traffic is that much better?

imagin how much time you could spend in generating traffic and even build new sites, if you would not try to do something what you are not familiar with ????
if you would be familiar you would not ask here for informations, right?

and thereīs another thing what you should calculate:
media buying is an outlay for every advertiser. means: it is producing costs. not only for the advertisement - also for the setup and controlling.

these costs are the same if an advertiser buys, setup and controls a campain with a few 100.000 clicks or with a few hundred million. at the end an advertiser runs his campains much cheaper when he use the middleman you want to cut out. and this is why thousands of them are happy to have this middlemen and not have to deal with every single website.

Quote:

Let's not even start with the bullshit bots that run rampant in ad purchase campaigns... :Oh crap
at the end it is only success what an advertiser pays and what a publisher can expect to get payed. systems with crap traffic will not survive - this is the basic nature of economic.
so better donīt compare yourself with the ones what are doing it worse then you can - compare it with those who can do it the way, the market wants. and there are many of them around what are doing fine since years.

greez

thommy

DVTimes 11-30-2014 02:53 PM

neat question

disinfected 12-01-2014 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 20307269)
might be true - thatīs why i did it different ;-)



ok then letīs do a short quote on the revenue you lost already to find this one advertiser and the next after that one is gone;-)

believe me or not - if you try to do all on your own, you will get lost. you can maybe cut the butcher out bút not the farmer. you can possibly even build your own car if you are able to buy all that middlemen what are nessecary to build a car.

and last not least: why donīt you cut out the advertiser and do your own fitting product, if your traffic is that much better?

imagin how much time you could spend in generating traffic and even build new sites, if you would not try to do something what you are not familiar with ????
if you would be familiar you would not ask here for informations, right?

and thereīs another thing what you should calculate:
media buying is an outlay for every advertiser. means: it is producing costs. not only for the advertisement - also for the setup and controlling.

these costs are the same if an advertiser buys, setup and controls a campain with a few 100.000 clicks or with a few hundred million. at the end an advertiser runs his campains much cheaper when he use the middleman you want to cut out. and this is why thousands of them are happy to have this middlemen and not have to deal with every single website.



at the end it is only success what an advertiser pays and what a publisher can expect to get payed. systems with crap traffic will not survive - this is the basic nature of economic.
so better donīt compare yourself with the ones what are doing it worse then you can - compare it with those who can do it the way, the market wants. and there are many of them around what are doing fine since years.

greez

thommy

Hi, your arguments are sound... can't deny that.

I'm just asking for some tube love straight from tube owners... I don't need you man.

I do have tube love which will roll out soon enough... just want to ask some tube owners direct first. You have nothing I need... sorry man. Just give someone less knowing the pitch, I'm not saying you are bad at what you do. All I am saying is I want nothing to do with ad brokers in my quest to buy traffic.

pornguy 12-01-2014 10:26 AM

CPM.. M=Mil Latin for 1000

No idea why they used that

pornguy 12-01-2014 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by disinfected (Post 20306623)
Correct :)

I like to make deals one on one and also what in the world is the going rate +/-?

Just the spot so mobile and desktop is in the mix. $3 per 1000? For the love of god someone please start posting some numbers.

Hit me up on Skype and lets chat.

Might be able to run a test for a while and you get some traffic for next to nothing.

Skype pornguy_epic email sales at amateurdough dot com


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