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Tulku 11-29-2014 09:17 AM

Macbook Pro, Macbook Air or ...
 
Hey guys,

I'm wondering to get between Macbook Air or Macbook Pro 13"

I'll be using it mainly for Visual Studio (will install Win), some video editing and other daily tasks etc..

I know the Pro is more powerful, but is there big difference?

Some guys told me that the Pro got heat when using more powerful programs?

Also if anyone can recommend me some good 13" ultrabook good looking, thin, light and quality like the Air

Also please no Macs vs PCs bullshit .. I'm also PC user and maybe I'll get my first Mac, but for ultrabooks they look good, good quality etc. and most Win machines look shit lol

L-Pink 11-29-2014 09:36 AM

If you're editing video do not get the air. Go with macbook pro.

DamageX 11-29-2014 09:40 AM

Just buy a computer instead.

L-Pink 11-29-2014 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 20306040)
Just buy a computer instead.

And it starts ..... :1orglaugh

DamageX 11-29-2014 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20306042)
And it starts ..... :1orglaugh

Nothing like a good Mac vs PC pissing match. ;)

sandman! 11-29-2014 10:12 AM

if your considering windows laptops also i have one of these and am happy ThinkPad X1 Carbon Business Ultrabook*| Lenovo US

seeric 11-29-2014 10:45 AM

Absolutely get the Pro. Air is nothing more than a glorified email checking machine. I've had them since the day they came out. Just got the Pro last month. Don't know how I worked without it.

Macbook Pro for the win.

mineistaken 11-29-2014 10:52 AM

You will install windows on it? What is the point of buying apple then?

AaronM 11-29-2014 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20306036)
If you're editing video do not get the air. Go with macbook pro.


Agreed. :2 cents:

LouiseLloyd 11-29-2014 11:00 AM

Pro :2 cents:

If portability's not essential then iMac 27"

edgeprod 11-29-2014 11:52 AM

I run a Macbook Pro, and I do notice a difference in the speed. The Macbook Air feels very light, however, and is incredibly portable. They're both very well-built laptops, and run Windows quite capably. I run Mac OS X on mine, because I am a LAMP programmer, but it's very good at both.

It'd be hard to find a better quality laptop, and if you get Apple Care, you won't have ANY worries. I highly recommend it.

Tulku 11-29-2014 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeric (Post 20306115)
Absolutely get the Pro. Air is nothing more than a glorified email checking machine. I've had them since the day they came out. Just got the Pro last month. Don't know how I worked without it.

Macbook Pro for the win.

Do you have heat issues when/if you run more power hungry programs?

Tulku 11-29-2014 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20306183)
I run a Macbook Pro, and I do notice a difference in the speed. The Macbook Air feels very light, however, and is incredibly portable. They're both very well-built laptops, and run Windows quite capably. I run Mac OS X on mine, because I am a LAMP programmer, but it's very good at both.

It'd be hard to find a better quality laptop, and if you get Apple Care, you won't have ANY worries. I highly recommend it.

Do you have heat issues when/if you run more power hungry programs with the Pro?

I'm considering the 2013 model because I've got good offer for this..

Yeah from what I'm seeing for the Windows ultrabooks/laptops I don't like 99% of them .. they are fugly and/or cheap looking (even the expensive biz laptops)

I want to get good looking and quality Win laptop/ultrabook but there's not many damn

Seth Manson 11-29-2014 01:57 PM

Dell XPS, and have lunch money left over :thumbsup

2MuchMark 11-29-2014 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20306036)
If you're editing video do not get the air. Go with macbook pro.

What Pink said. The Air is fantastic (I have one and use it all the time) but the Pro has a faster CPU.

Then again I know someone who has does heavy video editing on multiple networked mac servers. He edits on his air from wherever he is, but his servers do all the rendering for him. He then uses his desktop to spot check his changes and re renders if necessary. Sweet setup.

Babaganoosh 11-29-2014 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tulku (Post 20306018)
Hey guys,

I'm wondering to get between Macbook Air or Macbook Pro 13"

I'll be using it mainly for Visual Studio (will install Win), some video editing and other daily tasks etc..

I know the Pro is more powerful, but is there big difference?

Some guys told me that the Pro got heat when using more powerful programs?

Also if anyone can recommend me some good 13" ultrabook good looking, thin, light and quality like the Air

Also please no Macs vs PCs bullshit .. I'm also PC user and maybe I'll get my first Mac, but for ultrabooks they look good, good quality etc. and most Win machines look shit lol

If you're installing Windows on it, why are you getting a Mac? That makes no sense.

editeur 11-29-2014 02:50 PM

No Retina in Air, so MBP

edgeprod 11-29-2014 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tulku (Post 20306289)
Do you have heat issues when/if you run more power hungry programs with the Pro?

I'm considering the 2013 model because I've got good offer for this..

Yeah from what I'm seeing for the Windows ultrabooks/laptops I don't like 99% of them .. they are fugly and/or cheap looking (even the expensive biz laptops)

I want to get good looking and quality Win laptop/ultrabook but there's not many damn

Absolutely no issues with what I run, which is PhpStorm and Photoshop. Other than that, I can't advise you.

edgeprod 11-29-2014 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 20306360)
If you're installing Windows on it, why are you getting a Mac? That makes no sense.

I used to do that with my Macs, around 2007-2009, I think. I just prefer the Apple build quality, even if I am using it for a Windows machine. Now, the quality has gone down (like anything else), but it's still hard to find a comparable Wintel machine, build-wise.

Sunny Day 11-29-2014 05:27 PM

Pro v Air
 
Currently I have an 11" Air. I went for the smallest & lightest. Plus it fits in a beautiful leather portfolio my GF bought me. It replaced an older MacBook Pro with the DVD player.
The Air (4GB RAM) bogs down on a couple of huge spreadsheets I have with hyperlinks to web sites.
I just looked at the new MacBook Pros when I was at the apple store. A 13" will still fit in the portfolio and I'll have greater processing power.
I have 3 programs, MailWasher, Act!, and Approach database that are windows only, so I run Parallels.
Usually, I can use my Verizon iPad to surf & check email, but the new Pro I will be able to use my iPhone as a hotspot.
I deal with a lot of wineries that are rural and usually don't have customer WiFi. Also Verizon has the best coverage.Great when I can show the winery owner my wine based web sites.

2MuchMark 11-29-2014 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunny Day (Post 20306498)
Currently I have an 11" Air. I went for the smallest & lightest. Plus it fits in a beautiful leather portfolio my GF bought me. It replaced an older MacBook Pro with the DVD player.
The Air (4GB RAM) bogs down on a couple of huge spreadsheets I have with hyperlinks to web sites.
I just looked at the new MacBook Pros when I was at the apple store. A 13" will still fit in the portfolio and I'll have greater processing power.
I have 3 programs, MailWasher, Act!, and Approach database that are windows only, so I run Parallels.
Usually, I can use my Verizon iPad to surf & check email, but the new Pro I will be able to use my iPhone as a hotspot.
I deal with a lot of wineries that are rural and usually don't have customer WiFi. Also Verizon has the best coverage.Great when I can show the winery owner my wine based web sites.

I run Parallels on our Mac used for Quickbooks, and I have to admit its flawless. I was really skeptical when we first installed it but it works perfectly.

Sunny Day 11-29-2014 09:34 PM

Quickbooks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20306562)
I run Parallels on our Mac used for Quickbooks, and I have to admit its flawless. I was really skeptical when we first installed it but it works perfectly.

Forgot I use Quickbooks for Windows.....


Quickbooks 99. It's a lot better than QB for Mac. I did a free trial and said no thanks. Since I don't have payroll to constantly upgrade. QB 99 works fine and I've save a ton of money and time using QB 99 the same as the day I installed it.

edgeprod 11-29-2014 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20306562)
I run Parallels on our Mac used for Quickbooks, and I have to admit its flawless. I was really skeptical when we first installed it but it works perfectly.

Yeah, I was also surprised by the capabilities of Parallels. I use it (as well as a dual-boot) to look at how pages look on Windows, and it does exactly what I need. It's also nice how the files work from OS to OS. I could never use Windows full-time, unless they made it a UNIX-based OS, but Parallels is definitely MUCH more solid than I thought it would be!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunny Day (Post 20306649)
Quickbooks 99. It's a lot better than QB for Mac.

I have an accountant, but this is what I hear about QuickBooks as well. Don't they have a hosted version in the cloud by now? Sheesh.

kittykatt 11-29-2014 09:49 PM

pro fo sho thats what i have and i love it :thumbsup

Sunny Day 11-30-2014 04:10 AM

Moving to a new Quickbooks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20306651)

I have an accountant, but this is what I hear about QuickBooks as well. Don't they have a hosted version in the cloud by now? Sheesh.

I used to work for a CPA firm. It's almost impossible to migrate from a version to the next version, so we had every version of QB that existed. We had several hundred clients who were mostly churches and small businesses. They used every version there was.

QB 99 is so lame you can't clone a company structure to a new company minus the transactions. QB is crap. Unfortunately all the other low end accounting packages are worse. I don't know what upgrades they've made, but I'll be damned if I give them any more money.

I'd never trust my financials to a cloud. Too many big names have come and gone. Be a nightmare if one night they folded without warning.

Tulku 11-30-2014 08:26 AM

Ok thanks guys for the info .. I'll think about it .. but I think I'll get the 2013 i7, 8GB RAM, 512 SSD etc. Macbook Pro

candyflip 11-30-2014 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20306036)
If you're editing video do not get the air. Go with macbook pro.

Any real editor will tell you to not buy either. :winkwink:

Young 11-30-2014 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 20307083)
Any real editor will tell you to not buy either. :winkwink:

That's funny...especially when you consider the dozens of Hollywood feature films that have been cut in Final Cut Pro. And a good chunk of the Avid edited movies also on Macs.

But I'm guessing "real editors" are porn guys who use Sony Vegas and PC's? :1orglaugh

Sidenote: Premiere just got it's first feature film cut on it a month or two ago.

candyflip 11-30-2014 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Young (Post 20307314)
That's funny...especially when you consider the dozens of Hollywood feature films that have been cut in Final Cut Pro. And a good chunk of the Avid edited movies also on Macs.

But I'm guessing "real editors" are porn guys who use Sony Vegas and PC's? :1orglaugh

Sidenote: Premiere just got it's first feature film cut on it a month or two ago.

I didn't say don't buy a Mac, though I usually do. I'd much rather build mine, which I usually do.

What I did said don't buy one of their laptops. Something in the way they display color, I don't recall the specifics...I was just told this buy the guy I've been shadowing. Who makes his living editing features and television. On a Mac using Premiere, which leads me too...

Maybe the first studio feature, but there are been a ton of features edited on Premiere.

edgeprod 11-30-2014 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunny Day (Post 20306758)
I used to work for a CPA firm. It's almost impossible to migrate from a version to the next version, so we had every version of QB that existed. We had several hundred clients who were mostly churches and small businesses. They used every version there was.

Makes total sense. Thank you for the perspective! :thumbsup

Sunny Day 12-01-2014 12:06 AM

QuickBooks isn't always crap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20307414)
Makes total sense. Thank you for the perspective! :thumbsup


Despite QuickBooks limitation, I once came up with a solution using QuickBooks, a million dollars worth of software couldn't solve.
Had to do with moving inventory between warehouses, the valuation and when we had to pay the warehouse or producer. To make it worse, they would take chemical A of 1000 gallons and 500 gallons of chemical B and might end up with 1275 gallons +/- of chemical C. Yeah I know the math doesn't figure. That's why the computer programs couldn't do the math.
Not allowed to name the chemicals, but lets just say it's that shit they put into turkeys & hams.

Porko 12-01-2014 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tulku (Post 20306018)
Hey guys,

I'm wondering to get between Macbook Air or Macbook Pro 13"

I'll be using it mainly for Visual Studio (will install Win), some video editing and other daily tasks etc..

I know the Pro is more powerful, but is there big difference?

Some guys told me that the Pro got heat when using more powerful programs?

Also if anyone can recommend me some good 13" ultrabook good looking, thin, light and quality like the Air

Also please no Macs vs PCs bullshit .. I'm also PC user and maybe I'll get my first Mac, but for ultrabooks they look good, good quality etc. and most Win machines look shit lol


Mac Pro.

pornguy 12-01-2014 02:12 PM

I have an Alien Laptop big as hell and heavy does wonders with video but has a heating issue when running Mp4's Its odd but manageable.

Dell has a LOT of things out that are really good and half the cost of Mac.

If you want something better over all for the office and dont mind the expense get a cray, I think they still make a small office size.

blazin 12-01-2014 03:21 PM

I just purchased a new 15" Macbook Pro Retina today (16gb Base model). I use one at work but have to give it back soon as I am leaving.

I would recommend you buy a 16gb model if you can. My 8gb model seems to always using up it's swap space... (though I have never had it slowdown on me).. and you can't upgrade it, so...

I think you'll enjoy using it. I love mine. Awesome machine.

edgeprod 12-01-2014 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blazin (Post 20308302)
I just purchased a new 15" Macbook Pro Retina today (16gb Base model). I use one at work but have to give it back soon as I am leaving.

I would recommend you buy a 16gb model if you can. My 8gb model seems to always using up it's swap space... (though I have never had it slowdown on me).. and you can't upgrade it, so...

I think you'll enjoy using it. I love mine. Awesome machine.

Hmmm, really? Mine is 8GB, maybe I should upgrade. :2 cents:

Sunny Day 12-01-2014 06:15 PM

Mac
 
Once you go Mac you never go back

I used to work for one of the largest movie theatre companies in the world. We all had pcs. But the head of the graphic arts department insisted if they wanted him, his crew got Macs. They did those videos you see before the movie. He was using a MacBook Pro. that was a few years ago when you could only get 4-8 GB RAM.


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