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wehateporn 11-30-2014 03:43 PM

Italy Bans Flu Shot - 9 Dead
 

wehateporn 11-30-2014 03:57 PM

Flu vaccine death toll rises in Italy

Flu vaccine death toll rises in Italy

"The number of people who have died in Italy after being administered a flu vaccine made by Swiss pharmaceutical company Novartis has risen to 13."

L-Pink 11-30-2014 04:00 PM

Damn, 4 more in the last 14 minutes.

wehateporn 11-30-2014 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20307324)
Damn, 4 more in the last 14 minutes.

Probably more :2 cents:

EddyTheDog 11-30-2014 04:49 PM

There is a possible link and they have withdrawn two batches as a precaution - Not a great headline though I suppose...

wehateporn 11-30-2014 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20307345)
There is a possible link and they have withdrawn two batches as a precaution - Not a great headline though I suppose...

I only knew about 9 dead at the time, number is higher

seeandsee 11-30-2014 05:44 PM

Jesus poor people, that is reason i dont take that shit

fappingJack 12-15-2014 06:16 AM

Vaccine prevents virus. Not killing

wehateporn 12-15-2014 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by fappingJack (Post 20324663)
Vaccine prevents virus. Not killing

Some people around here been getting really sick straight after theirs, one young man even stuck in hospital for a week. Anyway, CDC admitted that Flu has now mutated so the vaccine is no longer relevant as it was designed a year ago. :2 cents:

EddyTheDog 12-15-2014 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20324667)
Some people around here been getting really sick straight after theirs, one young man even stuck in hospital for a week. Anyway, CDC admitted that Flu has now mutated so the vaccine is no longer relevant as it was designed a year ago. :2 cents:

It's been the same since they introduced the vaccine - Some people have developed minor symptoms - As many millions get the vaccine it's not really a surprise if a few get a worse reaction...

Not really a big surprise that there has been a bad batch as there seems to be in Italy - No conspiracy here.....

wehateporn 12-15-2014 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20324678)
It's been the same since they introduced the vaccine - Some people have developed minor symptoms - As many millions get the vaccine it's not really a surprise if a few get a worse reaction...

Not really a big surprise that there has been a bad batch as there seems to be in Italy - No conspiracy here.....

The symptoms that I'm seeing in people around here are not minor, and if I know a few people, it won't be a few people overall, appears to be a significant %.

This is only on the market to make $'s, not backed up by solid science

EddyTheDog 12-15-2014 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20324705)
This is only on the market to make $'s, not backed up by solid science

Total BS - I KNOW it is total BS - There is no point arguing with you about it, so end of...

MPGdevil 12-15-2014 06:55 AM

nd how many died who didn't get a flu vaccine.

wehateporn 12-15-2014 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20324713)
Total BS - I KNOW it is total BS - There is no point arguing with you about it, so end of...

Yes, glad you agree that the $cience behind the Flu shot is total BS, so do the independent and internationally renowned Cochrane Collaboratation

Vaccines for preventing influenza in healthy adults. - PubMed - NCBI

"The review showed that reliable evidence on influenza vaccines is thin but there is evidence of widespread manipulation of conclusions and spurious notoriety of the studies."

This doctor in Scotland recently called out the Flu Jab BS too

Margaret McCartney: What use is mass flu vaccination? | The BMJ

Margaret McCartney, general practitioner, Glasgow

"So, why are we vaccinating so many people in whom we have no proof that it works? We should surely be doing randomised controlled trials of the vaccine in healthy over 65s and healthcare workers, at least.

The NHS has a ?Flu Fighter? campaign to encourage uptake and offer incentives for staff to bare their biceps. In return for vaccination, hospitals have offered their staff entry into cash prize draws, as well as chocolates, lollipops, cakes, biscuits, stickers that read ?I?m a Flu Fighter,? and even an extra day?s annual leave, some freedom of information requests have shown. But will those days off work be offset by the average 0.04 days saved through vaccination?

Treating children is one thing; treating adults like children is quite another. The Department of Health wants trusts to achieve a 75% uptake in flu vaccination for staff,1 when it would be better off ensuring that resources are used where they can do some good. I would have the vaccination if a high quality trial showed that it was worth it for me or my patients. But flu vaccination is offered millions of times every year at huge opportunity cost; given so much uncertainty, this policy is impossible to justify."

aka123 12-15-2014 07:02 AM

9 dead because of banning flu shot? Thank god for Youtube news, otherwise we wouldn't have known this either.

EddyTheDog 12-15-2014 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20324721)
Yes, glad you agree that the $cience behind the Flu shot is total BS, so do the independent and internationally renowned Cochrane Collaboratation

Vaccines for preventing influenza in healthy adults. - PubMed - NCBI

"The review showed that reliable evidence on influenza vaccines is thin but there is evidence of widespread manipulation of conclusions and spurious notoriety of the studies."

This doctor in Scotland recently called out the Flu Jab BS too

Margaret McCartney: What use is mass flu vaccination? | The BMJ

Margaret McCartney, general practitioner, Glasgow

"So, why are we vaccinating so many people in whom we have no proof that it works? We should surely be doing randomised controlled trials of the vaccine in healthy over 65s and healthcare workers, at least.

The NHS has a ?Flu Fighter? campaign to encourage uptake and offer incentives for staff to bare their biceps. In return for vaccination, hospitals have offered their staff entry into cash prize draws, as well as chocolates, lollipops, cakes, biscuits, stickers that read ?I?m a Flu Fighter,? and even an extra day?s annual leave, some freedom of information requests have shown. But will those days off work be offset by the average 0.04 days saved through vaccination?

Treating children is one thing; treating adults like children is quite another. The Department of Health wants trusts to achieve a 75% uptake in flu vaccination for staff,1 when it would be better off ensuring that resources are used where they can do some good. I would have the vaccination if a high quality trial showed that it was worth it for me or my patients. But flu vaccination is offered millions of times every year at huge opportunity cost; given so much uncertainty, this policy is impossible to justify."

You know what I said was aimed at your comments - Don't try that...

wehateporn 12-15-2014 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20324729)
You know what I said was aimed at your comments - Don't try that...

You should listen to me more, this is my specialist subject, I even advise doctors and they thank me :2 cents:

hadden 12-15-2014 07:19 AM

CDC - General Questions and Answers about Adjuvants - Vaccine Safety

EddyTheDog 12-15-2014 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20324732)
You should listen to me more, this is my specialist subject, I even advise doctors and they thank me :2 cents:

Oh dear - You just went from 'conspiracy nut' to 'delusional'...

Jel 12-15-2014 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20324744)
Oh dear - You just went from 'conspiracy nut' to 'delusional'...

Fact: most medical scientists moonlight as failed pornographers on GFY :2 cents:

EddyTheDog 12-15-2014 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 20324763)
Fact: most medical scientists moonlight as failed pornographers on GFY :2 cents:

lol - That's actually funnier than you know...

PR_Glen 12-15-2014 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MPGdevil (Post 20324715)
nd how many died who didn't get a flu vaccine.

it's directly contributed to the increase in life expectancy for non-obese people in north america. The increase in obesity is a separate issue unfortunately.


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