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seeric 12-19-2014 10:13 AM

Here's why you don't negotiate with hackers. Nice work Sony.
 
'The Interview' -- Hackers Make New Demands of Sony Pictures | TMZ.com

Freaking morons.

For what it's worth: There are 1000s of screeners of this movie out there already in public. I will guarantee you that this is all over the Internet before we go to Vegas for Internext.

T-Minus 30 days until this is all over every piracy site on the planet, and I guarantee you, none of them are going to be afraid of some Koreans with keyboards.

:2 cents:

candyflip 12-19-2014 10:17 AM

I read that they didn't send out screeners, and tend to believe this.

If they did, it would have been on the internet already. Not a single torrent out there.

2MuchMark 12-19-2014 10:30 AM

Sony had a fantastic opportunity here and they blew it. Had they released the film, everyone would have rushed to the theatres to see it, even if it was a bad movie.

Someone on the news yesterday said that Kim Jong Un wants to be noticed, to be taken seriously, and show his people that he has power and respect on the world stage. It seems that he now has what he wants.

The worst thing is, there's not much the US can do about it.

Oh - and now Cyber attacks have gone way way up. Watch the cyber attacks LIVE. Open your CHROME browser and go to Norse - IPViking Live

Sick.

seeric 12-19-2014 10:38 AM

The turmoil that is going on inside Sony right now will definitely be enough to get the movie out of the company.

You have 1000's of people with access to the movie, or had access to the movie. It's always the employees that leak stuff to piracy. This one is it's own special shit cake, and someone is not going to like having their personal info out there.

It's a guarantee. When is the real question.

:2 cents:

PR_Glen 12-19-2014 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20330895)
Sony had a fantastic opportunity here and they blew it. Had they released the film, everyone would have rushed to the theatres to see it, even if it was a bad movie.

Someone on the news yesterday said that Kim Jong Un wants to be noticed, to be taken seriously, and show his people that he has power and respect on the world stage. It seems that he now has what he wants.

The worst thing is, there's not much the US can do about it.

Oh - and now Cyber attacks have gone way way up. Watch the cyber attacks LIVE. Open your CHROME browser and go to Norse - IPViking Live

Sick.

Why would they want to? 420 movies don't involve national security...

candyflip 12-19-2014 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeric (Post 20330903)
The turmoil that is going on inside Sony right now will definitely be enough to get the movie out of the company.

You have 1000's of people with access to the movie, or had access to the movie. It's always the employees that leak stuff to piracy. This one is it's own special shit cake, and someone is not going to like having their personal info out there.

It's a guarantee. When is the real question.

:2 cents:

If 1000s of people had access to the movie, it would be out. The same with most releases. VERY FEW leak before or while the movies are in the theater. DVD quality copies of stuff usually show up as a result of the DVD distribution process, not theater distribution.

The Porn Nerd 12-19-2014 10:58 AM

Could this all be one giant publicity stunt?

candyflip 12-19-2014 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20330922)
Could this all be one giant publicity stunt?

Only an idiot would think that, at this point.

MaDalton 12-19-2014 11:01 AM

the hackers must have really interesting info on the Sony execs

420 12-19-2014 11:02 AM

The interview is the best movie ever. 10/10 on imdb

PiracyPitbull 12-19-2014 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20330895)
Oh - and now Cyber attacks have gone way way up. Watch the cyber attacks LIVE. Open your CHROME browser and go to Norse - IPViking Live

Sick.

Looks like Global Thermo-nuclear war - your move Joshua.

crockett 12-19-2014 11:17 AM

The clip with Kim Jung um or what ever his name is getting killed has already leaked to the Internet. I posted a topic a day or two ago with the video but youtube took it down. So it's already out there, the part they didn't want the world to see.

He was in a helicopter standing at the side door and a missile hits the chopper then it explodes. It looked like a 1980s b film. Was pretty bad cgi and obviously low budget. Kinda looked like something made in Bollywood.

Jel 12-19-2014 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20330922)
Could this all be one giant publicity stunt?

more like everything going to plan :2 cents:


The Porn Nerd 12-19-2014 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 20330926)
Only an idiot would think that, at this point.

Guilty as charged then. :) I tend to be super cynical about such things. :smilie_we

But tell you what, no bullshit: If the N. Koreans are saying things like they will hit movie theaters in response to The Interview being released then this is no longer about hackers, publicity or anything else. It is now a National Security issue and Sony should release the film TODAY.

seeric 12-19-2014 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 20330910)
If 1000s of people had access to the movie, it would be out. The same with most releases. VERY FEW leak before or while the movies are in the theater. DVD quality copies of stuff usually show up as a result of the DVD distribution process, not theater distribution.

Guess we will see. Agree to disagree.

:2 cents:

MaDalton 12-19-2014 12:00 PM

Netflix should step up and buy the VOD rights

WDF 12-19-2014 12:16 PM

It seems sony online entertainment is doing some attacking of their own if you monitor the traffic carefully.

bronco67 12-19-2014 12:18 PM

Just release it VOD. I'd pay the 10 bucks and so would a lot of other people.

North Korea was not going stage terror attacks in the US over this. Think about it. They haven't done anything in the last few years except look like the laughing stock of the world. So now they're going to stage coordinated terror attacks in the US against movie screenings? Nothing was going to happen, even if they are the culprits in the hack --- but I tend to believe it a group of activists using N Korea as cover.

xXXtesy10 12-19-2014 12:29 PM


PAR 12-19-2014 12:30 PM

Stupid question..
Why when "GOP" hacked Sony back in late NOV (Nov22nd I think)
Did they only demand money (before releasing anything online) and not until Dec 16th did they even mention the movie...

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 20330910)
If 1000s of people had access to the movie, it would be out. The same with most releases. VERY FEW leak before or while the movies are in the theater. DVD quality copies of stuff usually show up as a result of the DVD distribution process, not theater distribution.

Getting a copy of the movie .. It is currently available as a torrent...
"The Interview (2014) 720p BrRip x264 YIFY"

seeandsee 12-19-2014 12:36 PM

I really want to watch this movie, lol

JustDaveXxx 12-19-2014 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20330990)
Netflix should step up and buy the VOD rights

I bet that doesn't happen.


I don?t think anyone is going to touch it. If netflx took it, they would be next. A pay site like Netflix going down? Could you imagine the financial loss risked for one video? I doubt it will go anywhere. Pretty sad I?m my opinion.


But if you really want to get it out; Tube sites and torrents!! lol


But something tells me that all of the tube sites would manage keeping that movie from being uploaded by their users.



We will see.

Just Dave

DamageX 12-19-2014 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20331013)
Just release it VOD. I'd pay the 10 bucks and so would a lot of other people.

North Korea was not going stage terror attacks in the US over this. Think about it. They haven't done anything in the last few years except look like the laughing stock of the world. So now they're going to stage coordinated terror attacks in the US against movie screenings? Nothing was going to happen, even if they are the culprits in the hack --- but I tend to believe it a group of activists using N Korea as cover.

If a bunch of bearded pedophile worshiper goat fuckers could fly two planes into WTC, why wouldn't NK be able to bomb a few theaters here and there? Way easier.

iwantchixx 12-19-2014 01:24 PM

Between China, Anonymous and now Korea's threats to network security, networks need to be more intelligently designed. In no way should private info be anywhere near public networks.

pornmasta 12-19-2014 01:35 PM

Bring Hirohito back

bronco67 12-19-2014 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 20331120)
If a bunch of bearded pedophile worshiper goat fuckers could fly two planes into WTC, why wouldn't NK be able to bomb a few theaters here and there? Way easier.

Ok, maybe they could -- but WOULD they? North Korea haven't attacked us yet, as much as they rattle their sabres in the past....and now they would do it for a movie? They may be a little crazy, but no way they're that stupid...especially if they're sophisticated enough to stage this hack.

VRPdommy 12-19-2014 02:09 PM

After reading the many comments...

1. Sony did not just give-in. The theaters would not show the film, so blame them.
Up until show time, sony was committed to spend 90 mil on promotions.

2. This has most likely been a Russian know-how/help given to N. Korean hackers.
N.K. has many good hackers, but not on this level. Outside help was required.


As I have said for the last dozen years....

Data Security are 2 words that have no business being used in the same sentence together. They will never have a relationship in any way at any time.

Wrap your mind around that !

TheSquealer 12-19-2014 02:39 PM

Sony did not give in to hackers. The theaters refused to show the movie. Not sure how this obvious fact which was clear from the start got so twisted. Even Black Jesus said he thought Sony made a mistake and suggested Sony come to him as if he can do anything about the situation.

pornlaw 12-19-2014 02:40 PM

Countdown to the porn parody version of "The Interview" begins now... LOL

Honestly I wonder if anyone in adult has the balls to produce it and release on Christmas....

Great mainstream press.

WDF 12-19-2014 02:41 PM

There is no such thing as secure data that is network accessible.

420 12-19-2014 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 20331200)
Countdown to the porn parody version of "The Interview" begins now... LOL

Honestly I wonder if anyone in adult has the balls to produce it and release on Christmas....

Great mainstream press.

I watched one called the innerview the other night. Turns out it was someone's colonoscopy video.

Dead 12-19-2014 02:46 PM

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candyflip 12-19-2014 02:48 PM

This movie will still be released in the theaters. If not, it will be HUGE for online distribution when they go that route and release it there.

candyflip 12-19-2014 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAR (Post 20331045)
Getting a copy of the movie .. It is currently available as a torrent...
"The Interview (2014) 720p BrRip x264 YIFY"

I just looked now and there still no legit version of this movie. Cam, screener or otherwise.

Quote:

?As of last night, a genuine copy of The Interview hadn?t been spread around Internet file sharing sites,? CinemaBlend reported Thursday in a piece called ?Why Downloading The Interview Right Now Is A Bad Idea.? ?? The Interview is currently in a weird limbo where it?s probably the most famous movie in the entire world, and yet, no one can pay to see it. That?s why people are checking torrent sites with extra vigor, and that?s why sketchy parties seem to think they can take advantage of the situation.?
When looking for ‘The Interview’ online, beware of sketchy links - The Washington Post

WDF 12-19-2014 03:05 PM

I would not doubt some malware/virus laden fakes are circulating in hopes of compromising more computers.

candyflip 12-19-2014 03:34 PM

Also, it's worth noting that SONY owns Crackle, which is the #3 video streaming service if I'm not mistaken. :winkwink:

MikeFold 12-19-2014 03:55 PM

might be worth noting also....

Quote:

As if all this wasn?t enough, it?s now speculated that Sony?s decision was rooted in the financial much more than in the political. One news outlet is reporting that the only way for Sony to recoup their investment through an insurance claim is to dump the film entirely, a total write-off needed to qualify.

fappingJack 12-19-2014 11:31 PM

Waiting for the movie.

DBS.US 12-19-2014 11:41 PM

LiveLeak.com - USA: Sony removes ALL ads for 'The Interview'

Captain Kawaii 12-19-2014 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20330927)
the hackers must have really interesting info on the Sony execs

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ BooYah!!!

Phoenix 12-20-2014 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx (Post 20331122)
Between China, Anonymous and now Korea's threats to network security, networks need to be more intelligently designed. In no way should private info be anywhere near public networks.

I'm of the opinion that is was an inside job. Not an over the net hack.
I think that a private contractor or even a sony employee is responsible. They might very well work for the GOP or whatever...or even take work from Fat boy in North Korea, but I think the hack was an inside job.

The best hacks are always physical and done with someone who is on location.

Unless of course Sony actually keeps all their private info on public servers, but i highly doubt it. Even small time operations know to have their critical info off the network.

RyuLion 12-20-2014 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20330990)
Netflix should step up and buy the VOD rights

:2 cents::2 cents:

ianmoone332000 12-20-2014 05:26 AM

Sony should hack them back and finally put to rest the myth that he indeed starred in "gangnam style"

bronco67 12-20-2014 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 20331681)
I'm of the opinion that is was an inside job. Not an over the net hack.
I think that a private contractor or even a sony employee is responsible. They might very well work for the GOP or whatever...or even take work from Fat boy in North Korea, but I think the hack was an inside job.

The best hacks are always physical and done with someone who is on location.

Unless of course Sony actually keeps all their private info on public servers, but i highly doubt it. Even small time operations know to have their critical info off the network.

I agree, of course because I've been saying this all along. It doesn't smell like state sponsored shenanigans. Now we have this...

North Korea says did not hack Sony, wants joint probe with U.S.

Could this be an event that actually starts a dialogue between our countries? Wouldn't be the weirdest thing that's ever happened.

thecatwrites 12-20-2014 08:43 AM

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