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US Govt snooping on all cell calls ....
Reading tech articles and came across this one.
EFF: Law enforcement 'desperately' trying to hide use of surveillance cell towers | VentureBeat | Security | by Daniel Terdiman I had read other stories in the past year about these "snooping" cell towers. The great freedoms that we all think we have when in the USA. :disgust |
There are laws covering that. They just do their job to protect you .... since you feel the need to be protected.
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hmm. protecting from what? who? Quite confused here.
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Please read the terrorist threats from N. Korea, ISIS, al qaeda, and the Taleban who are responsible for killing 130 school children. How do you propose the government catches USA based rogue sleeper cell terrorists connected with those factions? |
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dude, where have you been ?
just read all this carefully https://freesnowden.is/revelations/ https://nsa.gov1.info/dni/2014/index.html :2 cents::helpme:winkwink: |
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America is free only because there are disclosures like this. How much do you find out about your own national security services malfeasance? Ignorance is bliss or is it just ignorance? |
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I left the U.S. without stepping foot back here for 5 years. You don't need to use misogyny when addressing Americans on this board. we're a very unusual diverse group outside the sheeple norm :winkwink: We all know that America is being setup for Chinese style censorship under the guise of a businesses right to choose. When the adult industries freedom of expression via online social platforms is violated due to "community guidelines" from platform to platform, you know there's an issue. The more the masses rely on digital communication, the more power the government has to censor, reorganise (FB) or alter communications. Imagine your local sherrif being able to intercept and delete all models text/calls to you through Google Voice because they don't want a pornographer in town. You think business is slow, recruit harder, still few models getting back to you. Endless scenarios of what's possible, and probably happening :helpme |
Doubt they're listening to any of the common people though
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OP needs to stop reading tech articles since he cannot understand tech.
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Holy shit they're going to find out that I call Home Depot and ask my neighbor if he needs anything while I'm there.
The only real message in this article is, if you are a criminal; a smart one, you should just put your phone into airplane mode before you do anything related to the crime you intend to commit. Better yet, just turn the fucking phone off and get a burner. Dummies. |
common knowledge. gotta love the radical right wing fascist police state of amerika
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It's amazing how far we are these days from the original concept of govt. laid out by our founding fathers.
For instance (and I think this would apply to the way we allow the govt. to spy on us)...the first coin ever produced by the United States Of America did NOT have "In God We Trust" on it. Nope. It was designed by Benjamin Franklin and had "Mind Your Business" imprinted on it. The founding fathers fought a very REAL war right here on this continent to be free. And we have been handing over those freedoms in increments ever since. They would be very ashamed of us. They put together a rag-tag army and defeated the greatest military power on Earth to gain our freedom. And here we are so fearful of some camel herders in the mideast that we voluntarily surrender those very freedoms. :( I think that if Washington, Jefferson, Adams, etc. could be transported to the present day...they would get ropes and start hanging everyone in govt. for treason. |
What probably happens is everything gets sampled by software and when certain things hit enough suspicion points, it gets human eyes to view it.
For the most part, as long as the government doesn't have corrupt intentions and any kind of absolute power, it's not a huge concern. Lots of stupid religious radicals with twisted agendas. |
I try to use as many trigger words as possible whilst on the phone, I find it improves call quality.
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In America censorship is billed as 1) Keeping us safe 2) Protecting the children 3) Community standards. They are both censorship :helpme |
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I still use my land line. A court order is required to listen in on land lines.
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basically saying - what they do is ILLEGAL from the moral and basic human rights view, but they are still not prison.....
I'm talking about mass surveillance |
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just think if access to such knowledge without any supervising is not a ABSOLUTE POWER.... and which government doesnt have a corrupt intentions ? they pretend to be representants of the people, but the only thing what they do care about is lobbists' money... they are slaves and friends of banksters, big corpos and special services, all combined toegther since thousands of years |
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they spy everyything
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I pity the fucker that has to sit through and listen to endless hours of old women talking about someone they know having a tumor because they might be talking about a terrorist bombing half-way through.
What a shit job that must be. They can listen to my calls if they want. It's just those fucking Indians offering me a special SEO deal on my latest registered domain name. Hell, it would be more enjoyable trolling them if I had an audience. |
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Go to any YouTube video and take a look at the automatic captions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn8GQs54bsU What was said: Quote:
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$ man openssl Google and their https SSL/TLS is a joke -- watch the video ;) Off-the-Record Messaging - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
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A land line to a land line phone calls still fall under the old wiretap laws. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawful_interception |
shoot twice...I don't think our govt. agencies follow the law.
The "law" seems to only exist to put citizens in jail. :( |
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Install any apps that request permission to your contacts, mic, camera, instant messaging etc without further authorization? Is your phone service bundled with your cable service?
I was shocked to see how sensitive the mic was on my phone when I turned on voice recognition, with the TV on :thumbsup |
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NSA collecting phone records of millions of Verizon customers daily | US news | The Guardian more to come..+ use your imagination |
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For land line telephones the majority of the laws that protect against a wire tap without a warrant were established long before the 1986 Electronic Communications Privacy Act. For cell phones and other digital communications a provision 18 U.S.C. § 3121 within the Electronic Communications Privacy Act permits government agencies to collect data without a warrant subject to limitations. ie: They're allowed everything except the actual content of the communication. Henceforth if you want maximum privacy then use and old fashion land line telephone that's plugged into the wall of your home and only call other land line telephones. But don't take my word for it and do your own research. |
I'm not arguing your point about the legality.
What I am saying is that the NSA (and the federal govt.) do things illegally all the time. But since they have no real oversight...they don't get caught. So the laws are meaningless to them. Hell, if it weren't for Edward Snowden whistleblowing, we still wouldn't know that they were doing it. And if you noticed...nobody at the NSA or any other federal agency has been prosecuted for what they are doing. The only person in trouble is...Snowden. That's how shit works when you are dealing with the United States federal govt. :( |
its unbelievable, all the hand wringing about the govt intruding on amendment 4, when the real problem comes from the hackers that steal credit card data, steal identities, will encrypt your drive/DDOS your site & hold it hostage for ransom. or it can be an ex BF/GF who is jealous & sets up an app in your phone to track you, or sticks a GPS on your car. or a pervert that flies a drone to your bedroom window & snaps pics.
AKA, all this comes back to microsoft. :2 cents: |
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leaving such great power to few organisations (better yet - without any supervising and governing) it's just DANGEROUS..... |
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the only people who were doing such things without any punishment were DICTATORS.... |
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What the government is doing with digital communications is legal. Provision 18 U.S.C. § 3121 within the Electronic Communications Privacy Act allows them to do exactly what they're doing with your cell phones, tablets, emails, etc. Where you're shocked is the massive scale and how efficiently that they're able to do these things. For the record I agree it's not right what they're doing. But they have... (a) The technology... (b) The ability to change the laws when they want... (c)The muscle to beat anyone that complains into submission Therefore the only solution is to avoid being spied on is to not own or use a cell phone. |
Not to own a cellphone? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Using that logic I would avoid all the motor vehicle laws by just using my horse and wagon ... Wireless communications have the same protections by law as wired (land line) 18 U.S. Code § 2511 - Interception and disclosure of wire, oral, or electronic communications prohibited | LII / Legal Information Institute There is an exception of foreign intelligence and counter intelligence and hair-splitting over wireless meta-data collection. Don't conspire to commit acts of terrorism or crimes on a wireless device or Internet IM. The only problem that is legitimate is personal and business privacy of legal communications. As a business, I wouldn't want anyone intercepting our internal business communications and profiting from that knowledge illicitly. But then, we are a little more sophisticated than talking on cellphones and messaging on Skype -- countermeasures to ensure privacy are in place ... |
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