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ctggls 01-07-2015 06:01 AM

I think the Charile Hebdo attack concerns us all
 
The Arabs took it too far this time ... imagine that everyone on of could be a victim to arab attacks if you say something that they don't agree with ...

12 kills on Charlie Hebdo attack

seksi 01-07-2015 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ctggls (Post 20349546)
The Arabs took it too far this time ... imagine that everyone on of could be a victim to arab attacks if you say something that they don't agree with ...

That sounds racist. We are probably also at risk from violent racist types, too after all the man who shot Larry Flynt, Joseph Paul Franklin, was a racist.

Anyone who attacks media and the press because they don't agree with freedom of expression is a threat to us, especially those who use violence or try to harness the state's ability to use violence to enforce their religion's mandate for dress, behavior and speech.

I don't imagine free speech and commerce are going to benefit from Europe tearing itself up over racism, Islamophobia and fear of immigrants, but we have as much to worry about in US from our own homegrown treligious fundamentalists as we do with "the Ay-rabs"

shoot twice 01-07-2015 08:18 AM

I'm against ALL violence and I vehemently condemn ALL acts of violence regardless of who commits them or their reasons.

But....

I know that 30 years ago if some idiot when to a bar and trolled some hot head and ended up getting his ass kicked for doing it. NO ONE would feel sorry for the idiot that started it. Now flash forward to today and the common opinion is that it's acceptable to insult and slag off anyone they want and the person being attacked has no take it.


So I don't feel sorry at all for the magazine. They knew that there are Muslims that are hot headed and sensitive but yet they decided to troll them anyway. Sure enough it's about "Freedom of Speech" but were publishing insulting cartoons really worth it?

pornmasta 01-07-2015 08:21 AM

you can't blame "arabs"

EonBlue 01-07-2015 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by seksi (Post 20349629)
but we have as much to worry about in US from our own homegrown treligious fundamentalists as we do with "the Ay-rabs"

No. No you don't. Wake up and get your head out of your ass. That kind of moral relativism is going to get a lot of people killed.


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Originally Posted by shoot twice (Post 20349670)
So I don't feel sorry at all for the magazine. They knew that there are Muslims that are hot headed and sensitive but yet they decided to troll them anyway. Sure enough it's about "Freedom of Speech" but were publishing insulting cartoons really worth it?

People make fun of Christians, Jesus and their religion all of the time. So according to you it would be ok for Christians to go around shooting up people because they feel insulted? Alrighty then.

You are on the wrong side of the argument here and you are just flat out wrong.




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CHMOD 01-07-2015 08:45 AM

Islam = nazism.

As long as people will not realize it, our freedom of speech will regress until they take over. Once that they will be enough and in power, muslims will destroy our civilization and enforce islam. It will be too late.

On our civilization tombstone, you will read: "Cause of death: Stupidity"

beerptrol 01-07-2015 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ctggls (Post 20349546)
The Arabs took it too far this time ... imagine that everyone on of could be a victim to arab attacks if you say something that they don't agree with ...

12 kills on Charlie Hebdo attack

Welcome to planet Earth! You must be new here! People have been killed by others because they didn't like what was said!

beerptrol 01-07-2015 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20349694)
No. No you don't. Wake up and get your head out of your ass. That kind of moral relativism is going to get a lot of people killed.




People make fun of Christians, Jesus and their religion all of the time. So according to you it would be ok for Christians to go around shooting up people because they feel insulted? Alrighty then.

You are on the wrong side of the argument here and you are just flat out wrong.




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Christians don't have clean hands. Look how many were murdered through out it's history and the amount of kids molested. All religion is bad imho!

Captain Kawaii 01-07-2015 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20349694)
No. No you don't. Wake up and get your head out of your ass. That kind of moral relativism is going to get a lot of people killed.




People make fun of Christians, Jesus and their religion all of the time. So according to you it would be ok for Christians to go around shooting up people because they feel insulted? Alrighty then.

You are on the wrong side of the argument here and you are just flat out wrong.




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Funny, you left out Jews...the source of much of this blowback.

Jaffa in 1948
USS Liberty and countless other crimes....the list seems endless
Christians might roll over and shove a Happy Meal down their throats but others just won't.

I'd like to see you present English language cartoons of top Rabbis being hammered in US. I've never seen even 1.

Albeit Hebdo lampooned IS leader and rightfully so but...it started with another figure.
:2 cents:
Americans wonder why the world is hating on them...

shoot twice 01-07-2015 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 20349694)
People make fun of Christians, Jesus and their religion all of the time. So according to you it would be ok for Christians to go around shooting up people because they feel insulted? Alrighty then.

You are on the wrong side of the argument here and you are just flat out wrong.
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You can say whatever you want to whoever you want.

Just as long as you understand that when you insult and piss people off... Sooner or later you're going to get your ass kicked. That's how it works in this world.

EonBlue 01-07-2015 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 20349714)
Christians don't have clean hands. Look how many were murdered through out it's history and the amount of kids molested. All religion is bad imho!

Blah, blah, blah. Let's give modern day muslim terrorists a free pass because of what christians did hundreds of years ago. Maybe the christians back then were just killing people because their feelings were hurt.




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L-Pink 01-07-2015 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by shoot twice (Post 20349717)
You can say whatever you want to whoever you want.

Just as long as you understand that when you insult and piss people off... Sooner or later you're going to get your ass kicked. That's how it works in this world.

So coddling others in silence is your course of action. History has many examples of how that works.

BTW, once in power they will never allow you the same courtesy .....

blackmonsters 01-07-2015 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ctggls (Post 20349546)
The Arabs took it too far this time ... imagine that everyone on of could be a victim to arab attacks if you say something that they don't agree with ...

12 kills on Charlie Hebdo attack

I'm not worried because I don't need to draw stupid cartoons to prove I have the freedom to be a prick.
And I don't plan on standing near the kind of people who have that need.

Simply put : The cartoon is the same as spitting in someones face emotionally.

I don't need to get involved in that.

BlackCrayon 01-07-2015 09:43 AM

everyone should start drawing and publishing cartoons mocking muslim extremists. they can't kill everyone.

MaDalton 01-07-2015 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20349786)
everyone should start drawing and publishing cartoons mocking muslim extremists. they can't kill everyone.

this is actually what should be done - flood all media with Muhammad caricatures until they choke on them

shoot twice 01-07-2015 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20349728)
So coddling others in silence is your course of action. History has many examples of how that works......

if you want to fight then go fight... By all means don't let me stop you.
As for me if things ever started to get bad I'll just pick up and leave. I know Mexico is pretty cheap.

dyna mo 01-07-2015 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by shoot twice (Post 20349792)
if you want to fight then go fight... By all means don't let me stop you.
As for me if things ever started to get bad I'll just pick up and leave. I know Mexico is pretty cheap.

wait, you think when things get bad here that somehow mexico will be exempt from chaos?

:1orglaugh

MaDalton 01-07-2015 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20349798)
wait, you think when things get bad here that somehow mexico will be exempt from chaos?

:1orglaugh

when i think of safe places, Mexico never even remotely crossed my mind

Focus 01-07-2015 09:57 AM

If someone would disrespect me face to face i would get little annoyed and moved on sure. But if that person keep disrespecting me for years i would fkn snapped and knocked the living shit out of him for real but killing ? Thats plain stupid and wrong. People think they can say or do whatever they want without consequences, well guess what your wrong mate whatever religion you in or cult don't do to others what you don't want to be done to you.

shoot twice 01-07-2015 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20349798)
wait, you think when things get bad here that somehow mexico will be exempt from chaos?

:1orglaugh

I've never had a problem with Mexico but just the same there's other nations.

Personally I've got no beef with Muslims or anyone else. So why would I want to fight them? Furthermore I'm not fighting for a bunch of shit disturbing corrupt politicians or a bunch of patriotic flag waving Walmart shoppers.

Bladewire 01-07-2015 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by shoot twice (Post 20349670)
So I don't feel sorry at all for the magazine. They knew that there are Muslims that are hot headed and sensitive ...

" Video posted to YouTube shows two men shooting on a Paris street, then walking up to and firing point-blank at a seemingly wounded man as he lay on the ground."

I don't care who you do or don't feel sorry for :321GFY

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Originally Posted by shoot twice (Post 20349817)
Personally I've got no beef with Muslims or anyone else. So why would I want to fight them? Furthermore I'm not fighting for a bunch of shit disturbing corrupt politicians or a bunch of patriotic flag waving Walmart shoppers.

You have the luxury of not having to worry or fight because others fought for you to have an easy carefree life like that. You have no conscious awareness of how your lifestyle was created or is maintained.

dyna mo 01-07-2015 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by shoot twice (Post 20349817)
I've never had a problem with Mexico but just the same there's other nations.

Personally I've got no beef with Muslims or anyone else. So why would I want to fight them? Furthermore I'm not fighting for a bunch of shit disturbing corrupt politicians or a bunch of patriotic flag waving Walmart shoppers.

there will not be a muslim invasion of USA in your lifetime, ever even. You can cross that off the doomsday scenario list.


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Cherry7 01-07-2015 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20349791)
this is actually what should be done - flood all media with Muhammad caricatures until they choke on them

I agree, freedom of speech must be excercised and expanded.

Ban all religion from all schools.

TeenCat 01-07-2015 10:16 AM

i hope from now on it will be not only about demonstrations, and all those flower "we like you muslims" idiots opened their eyes finaly ...

AntonMG 01-07-2015 10:16 AM

To all the people that died during today's shooting at Charlie Hebdo: may you rest in peace.
I would like to say that you died for our freedom of speech but at the end of the day, you clearly died for no valid reason.
No religious or political justification can be given, it is just bullshit.
I have been a Charlie Hebdo reader for years and I thank you guys for all the good laughs.
And to the Muslims all around the world, my thoughts go to you in those rough times when everyone will keep pointing fingers and blame you for the actions of a handful of bastards.

shoot twice 01-07-2015 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 20349825)
You have the luxury of not having to worry or fight because others fought for you to have an easy carefree life like that. You have no conscious of how your lifestyle was created or is maintained.

No one has ever "fought" for me and no one has ever given me anything I didn't earn for myself.

Bladewire 01-07-2015 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by shoot twice (Post 20349837)
No one has ever "fought" for me and no one has ever given me anything I didn't earn for myself.

That is the most ignorant statement I've ever read on GFY :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

In some countries accessing the internet is illegal and/or working in porn

TeenCat 01-07-2015 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by AntonMG (Post 20349836)
And to the Muslims all around the world, my thoughts go to you in those rough times when everyone will keep pointing fingers and blame you for the actions of a handful of bastards.

and i always thought muslim religion is religion claiming also killing and violence, now i feel sorry for all the poor muslim people ...

shoot twice 01-07-2015 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 20349842)
That is the most ignorant statement I've ever read on GFY :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

If you want to get technical then who causes all the problems?
I'll give you a hint... It isn't me.

It's the politicians, lawyers, corporations, etc.

They cause the problems and then they tell us to "go kill for them" and if need be to "die for them". And the entire time they're putting tons of money in their pockets.

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Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 20349842)
In some countries accessing the internet is illegal and/or working in porn

I could live without the Internet and I don't have to work in porn. But to be blunt it's the damn Internet that's destroyed the porn industry. So perhaps the porn industry should protest DARPA.

AntonMG 01-07-2015 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 20349847)
and i always thought muslim religion is religion claiming also killing and violence, now i feel sorry for all the poor muslim people ...

So does the Holy Bible :)

"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Bladewire 01-07-2015 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by shoot twice (Post 20349864)
If you want to get technical then who causes all the problems?
I'll give you a hint... It isn't me.

It's the politicians, lawyers, corporations, etc.

They cause the problems and then they tell us to "go kill for them" and if need be to "die for them". And the entire time they're putting tons of money in their pockets.

I could live without the Internet and I don't have to work in porn. But to be blunt it's the damn Internet that's destroyed the porn industry. So perhaps the porn industry should protest DARPA.

You suggest people should protest DARPA but feel you have no skin in the game for freedom of speech.

What country are you in right now? What country were you raised in? This will help us to better understand your viewpoint.

EonBlue 01-07-2015 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by AntonMG (Post 20349869)
So does the Holy Bible :)

"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

The Age of Enlightnement - the traditionally christian western world had it. The muslim world did not.

There are no hordes of armed fanatics running around trying to impose literal interpretations of the bible on entire populations.

There is no point to your point.




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Mutt 01-07-2015 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 20349715)
Funny, you left out Jews...the source of much of this blowback.


I'd like to see you present English language cartoons of top Rabbis being hammered in US. I've never seen even 1.

Funny you left out you're a virulent anti-Semite.

Top rabbis being hammered in the US? LOL You're so ignorant it's not really worth engaging you, you can't even name a top rabbi off the top of your head and neither can anybody else because rabbis have no political power nor want it other than within their own religion and its followers, a religious Jew might know who a top rabbi is, nobody else does.

There have been a million unflattering critical political cartoons of Israelis and their leaders and no newspaper anywhere in this world has been attacked with gutless murderous violence over a cartoon or any other criticism of Jews/Israel.

Now go run to Google and desperately search for a branch to hang your stupid opinions on.

pornguy 01-07-2015 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20349791)
this is actually what should be done - flood all media with Muhammad caricatures until they choke on them

I agree.

Wish I could draw worth a damn.

Rochard 01-07-2015 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20349831)
there will not be a muslim invasion of USA in your lifetime, ever even. You can cross that off the doomsday scenario list.


:)

It's already happened.

Islam is the third largest faith in the US, after after Christianity and Judaism, with some three million followers.

Jman 01-07-2015 10:58 AM

I wouldn't want to be an Arab in France right now

aka123 01-07-2015 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ctggls (Post 20349546)
The Arabs took it too far this time ... imagine that everyone on of could be a victim to arab attacks if you say something that they don't agree with ...

12 kills on Charlie Hebdo attack

By the way, there are shit loads of muslims who are not Arabs. Probably most muslims are not Arabs.

shoot twice 01-07-2015 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 20349875)
You suggest people should protest DARPA

It's just a statement of fact.

It was the research of the United States Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) that lead to the creation of the Internet. And it's the Internet that's destroyed the porn industry and is killing jobs in Hollywood.

So I have more of a complaint with the United States Defense Department than I do with any Muslim.

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Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 20349875)
but feel you have no skin in the game for freedom of speech.

It was cartoons.. Just insulting cartoons that someone published to piss people off and make a dollar from the controversy. And you honestly expect me to participate in what amounts to a bad Tom and Jerry cartoon called "get the Muslims"?

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Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 20349875)
What country are you in right now? What country were you raised in? This will help us to better understand your viewpoint.

Elbonia

Bladewire 01-07-2015 11:03 AM

Religious radicals fucking things up again. This looks like a job for Wonder Woman!

http://i.imgur.com/oaXhWxT.gif?1













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EonBlue 01-07-2015 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 20349880)
I agree.

Wish I could draw worth a damn.

Just repost in as many places as possible the ones that these people were killed over. If everyone does that then they won't know who to kill next.

:2 cents:



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aka123 01-07-2015 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by madalton (Post 20349807)
when i think of safe places, mexico never even remotely crossed my mind

lol.. :)

OneHungLo 01-07-2015 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20349887)
It's already happened.

Islam is the third largest faith in the US, after after Christianity and Judaism, with some three million followers.

I wouldn't call 1% of the population (with a projection of 1.7% in 2030) an invasion.

dyna mo 01-07-2015 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20349887)
It's already happened.

Islam is the third largest faith in the US, after after Christianity and Judaism, with some three million followers.

I understand your schtick here is to act dense but you need to act a lot more dense if you want me to believe you really don't know what we are talking about when an invasion is mentioned.


unless this is just your thinking this is an opportunity to show you are quite bigoted.

grumpy 01-07-2015 12:17 PM

The stupidity and ignorance on this board has reached new levels.

Struggle4Bucks 01-07-2015 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by seksi (Post 20349629)
Anyone who attacks media and the press because they don't agree with freedom of expression is a threat to us

The biggest threat in this world is not an attack on media, but (in spite of all the freedom of expression) all the things media do not write about...

pornmasta 01-07-2015 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jman (Post 20349895)
I wouldn't want to be an Arab in France right now

They are not in danger

TCLGirls 01-07-2015 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by shoot twice (Post 20349837)
No one has ever "fought" for me and no one has ever given me anything I didn't earn for myself.

The ACLU fought for your ability to legally produce pornography.

ctggls 01-07-2015 01:09 PM

It's not racism but you can't just murder people because the use sarcasm when expresing opinions. Musilims build their mooches all over Europe and no body gets killed. After that they force other European nations to follow their religion and start oppressing anyone that does not follow them. Just look what is happening inUK where they terrorize the citizens with their religion... Yes I'm against Arabs and the killings their represent.
If they hate the European style so much why won't go back to where they came from.

GAMEFINEST 01-07-2015 01:29 PM

What happened today shouldn't happen

shoot twice 01-07-2015 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 20350027)
The ACLU fought for your ability to legally produce pornography.

No it didn't.

Kathy Willets and her husband Jeff had more to do with the legalization of the distribution of porn than the ACLU. Besides when porn was illegal the women were classier, the movies had much higher production values and everyone involved made a hell of a lot more money.


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