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TTI-Rich 01-13-2015 02:51 AM

Whatever happened to Acacia?
 
Did Acacia just go away? They sent me a letter which I ignored and they let me be. Lightspeed was going to fight them, what came of that?

jscott 01-13-2015 03:46 AM

I think that shit just disappeared. Haven't heard anything about Acacia for years

XMaster 01-13-2015 03:59 AM

they came. they took the money. they left.
good biz.

mikesouth 01-13-2015 09:25 AM

not unlike ICMR

fitzmulti 01-13-2015 09:34 AM

Good riddance.

Horatio Caine 01-13-2015 09:42 AM

Got letter from them as well. Went straight to trashcan. Should have kept it for memories.

marcop 01-13-2015 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine (Post 20356526)
Got letter from them as well. Went straight to trashcan. Should have kept it for memories.

I scanned the letter they sent me, and have a copy somewhere. At the time, I hadn't ever put any video on the web on any of my websites, so it was obviously a total scam attempt on their part.

edgeprod 01-13-2015 11:03 AM

When they mailed me using a misspelling of my name that was only present in my Matrix Content account, I knew the source of the information, and threw it right in the trash.

TisMe 01-13-2015 11:13 AM

I believe that the patent they were trying to enforce was ruled invalid. Farrell (Far-L) and some others fought them and won.

Acacia is still around and still a patent troll.

Far-L 01-13-2015 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TisMe (Post 20356599)
I believe that the patent they were trying to enforce was ruled invalid. Farrell (Far-L) and some others fought them and won.

Acacia is still around and still a patent troll.

Thank you.

Yes, our Defense Group with VS, Lightspeed, Homegrown, and others fought them for years, got Time Warner in the mix, etc. and won outright in the end. We won and saved a lot of people from having to pay. Those that agreed to the patent still would have to pay the license. Sucks to be them since they are still paying.

Only Edgeprod would've had a legit defense by ignoring it since they didn't get his name right. Anyone else that ignored it did so at their peril and if they didn't go after you at the time then it probably meant you weren't worth the trouble.

So spare me the bravado and posturing of "I threw it in the trash and ignored it". Everyone that did that at the time was taking an enormous legal risk that could have impacted their business, especially those that used GFY as a pulpit to brag that they were ignoring a legal filing. Anyone that treats business that way is not really acting professionally. :2 cents:

Other patent trolls have come along but our experience with Acacia has acted as a force field from most other similar trolling Lemelson style patents. I say most, but not all; however, now we are like Vietcong in the jungle with enough AK47 ammo to make anyone think twice about getting into it with us or regret it if they do.

edgeprod 01-13-2015 12:26 PM

Funny thing is, they never followed up on it, either ... Such loser trolls.

Far-L 01-13-2015 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20356667)
Funny thing is, they never followed up on it, either ... Such loser trolls.

Our group put tied them up pretty good so they stopped going after individuals after a while, but especially when the big media giants were pulled in. :thumbsup

SomeCreep 01-13-2015 01:46 PM

Haha, Acacia, those fucks.

edgeprod 01-13-2015 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 20356674)
Our group put tied them up pretty good so they stopped going after individuals after a while, but especially when the big media giants were pulled in. :thumbsup

Awesome, man. Great work, thank you. I had no idea you were involved.

TisMe 01-13-2015 01:58 PM

Acacia is still very active, and still a patent troll:

https://www.techdirt.com/blog/?company=acacia

pornguy 01-13-2015 02:03 PM

We got the letter as well. Had my first name and the wifes last name on it for some reason. So we ignored it.

BlackCrayon 01-13-2015 02:12 PM

are any of the companies that paid them still around?

AmeliaG 01-13-2015 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 20356657)
Thank you.

Yes, our Defense Group with VS, Lightspeed, Homegrown, and others fought them for years, got Time Warner in the mix, etc. and won outright in the end. We won and saved a lot of people from having to pay. Those that agreed to the patent still would have to pay the license. Sucks to be them since they are still paying.

Only Edgeprod would've had a legit defense by ignoring it since they didn't get his name right. Anyone else that ignored it did so at their peril and if they didn't go after you at the time then it probably meant you weren't worth the trouble.

So spare me the bravado and posturing of "I threw it in the trash and ignored it". Everyone that did that at the time was taking an enormous legal risk that could have impacted their business, especially those that used GFY as a pulpit to brag that they were ignoring a legal filing. Anyone that treats business that way is not really acting professionally. :2 cents:

Other patent trolls have come along but our experience with Acacia has acted as a force field from most other similar trolling Lemelson style patents. I say most, but not all; however, now we are like Vietcong in the jungle with enough AK47 ammo to make anyone think twice about getting into it with us or regret it if they do.


Kudos :thumbsup

I just wrote them a letter pointing out that my company had never posted video to the web. Which was true. I did, however, buy photo content from Matrix.

Whatever happened to Matrix? I kind if miss when there were a lot of content providers with easy shopping.

mikesouth 01-13-2015 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20356759)
are any of the companies that paid them still around?

Yup...Hustler

Kenny B! 01-13-2015 03:02 PM

Homegrown deserves a ton of credit, I know we donated to the fund to help them fight Acacia.

This industry doesn't team up often to fight a cause but this time it did and we won, thanks to Spike, Far-L and a handful of others.

thanks again guys

blackmonsters 01-13-2015 03:17 PM

I figured that their patent was invalid; but glad I didn't have to make a choice like others did.

TheSquealer 01-13-2015 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20356587)
When they mailed me using a misspelling of my name that was only present in my Matrix Content account, I knew the source of the information, and threw it right in the trash.

The same exact thing happened to me... with Matrix and i spelled my wrong, then rather than correcting it, i added some letters to make it sound funny (i was bored and annoyed with all the info they required)... later, i got a letter from Acacia with that spelling, making it painfully obvious how they got my name.

actually, i remember this same thing happened to quite a few people

makeabuck 01-13-2015 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 20356763)
Kudos :thumbsup

I just wrote them a letter pointing out that my company had never posted video to the web. Which was true. I did, however, buy photo content from Matrix.

Whatever happened to Matrix? I kind if miss when there were a lot of content providers with easy shopping.

The content pickins are so slim anymore. I miss those days too. I have soooo much matrix content.

I remember Acacia. I was so scared because of some stupid voice wavs on my websites. I'm sure they sent me something, but EscortBiz giggled and told me not to worry. So, I didn't.

MaDalton 01-13-2015 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by makeabuck (Post 20357112)
The content pickins are so slim anymore. I miss those days too. I have soooo much matrix content.

I'd be the last to complain ;)

makeabuck 01-13-2015 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20357120)
I'd be the last to complain ;)

You are my favorite by far! *wink* Promise.

But I do remember the days of ounique, matrix and more.

marcop 01-13-2015 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 20356587)
When they mailed me using a misspelling of my name that was only present in my Matrix Content account, I knew the source of the information, and threw it right in the trash.

We'd never bought from Matrix Content, and my business partner believed for reasons I can't remember now that Acacia got our details from either our registration one year at an AVN show, or from having our badges scanned at an AVN show. I doubted that, but who knows?

marcop 01-13-2015 10:19 PM

I found the scanned copy of the Acacia letter:

http://www.littlegrayguy.com/gfy/acacialetter.jpg

Far-L 01-14-2015 01:37 AM

Matrix wasn't the only one to rat out all its affiliates. Those were dark times.

Some hard lessons learned. Kenny was one of the only ones that helped at the time although many claimed they did but did not. However, one company put in tons of cash but never was part of the group and never wanted any sort of credit for their contribution and that is ATK. Huge respect and thanks to Kim to this day. :thumbsup


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