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Clay 01-25-2015 11:43 AM

I really really really really really really really want to know what my competitors sales are
 
My competitor has been around since 2001 and just about everyone who likes the niche is on his site.
Knowing how much money his site earned in 2014 would be a big help to me in knowing what my potential earnings could be or if I should give up and move to something else.
Is there any trick of knowing what his site made? Like public records or something? He lives in Spain. Yes I'm serious, knowing how much it made would be life changing for me

seeandsee 01-25-2015 11:45 AM

what niche? how much traffic?

The Porn Nerd 01-25-2015 11:53 AM

I am sorry but there is simply no way to tell what a site earns by looking at public records or even Alexa rankings.

You would need to know:

Daily traffic
Daily sales
Conversion ratio
Where the traffic is coming from (paid or organic)
If paid traffic how much is he spending to get his sales?

Bottom line is if you are not excited about the niche, or are worried about your site's earning potential compared to someone else, then your focus is not where it should be. Competition is one thing but what I focus on is what can I do to make profits. At the end of the day I don't care what someone else is earning because I can't tell anyway. LOL

Just assume he is making shit and you will kill it. If you are not happy with the money you are bringing in then that's the only real issue.

Good luck man!

Hentaikid 01-25-2015 12:23 PM

If it's a spanish company you can try a service like Información de empresas | Informes de empresas | Datos de empresas y registros empresas - eInforma they give you reports on company info, dunno how accurate they are but they do mention financials

MiamiBoyz 01-25-2015 12:48 PM

Break into their office and steal their computers...you will probably find the answers you seek.

If it's good enough for the government then it's good enough for you.

ShowMe69 01-25-2015 01:10 PM

become an affiliate and see how well their conversion is and guess their traffic from Alexa and extrapolate from that info

Clay 01-25-2015 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20369840)

Bottom line is if you are not excited about the niche, or are worried about your site's earning potential compared to someone else, then your focus is not where it should be. Competition is one thing but what I focus on is what can I do to make profits. At the end of the day I don't care what someone else is earning because I can't tell anyway. LOL

Great advice thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hentaikid (Post 20369860)
If it's a spanish company you can try a service like Información de empresas | Informes de empresas | Datos de empresas y registros empresas - eInforma they give you reports on company info, dunno how accurate they are but they do mention financials

Awesome thanks! I checked and unfortunately he doesnt have a company name or anything, its kind of like TheHun, it looks more like a hobby website.

The Porn Nerd 01-25-2015 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clay (Post 20369884)
... its kind of like TheHun, it looks more like a hobby website.

How does The Hun make money?

(Sorry, couldn't resist. LOL)

xXXtesy10 01-25-2015 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz (Post 20369871)
Break into their office and steal their computers...you will probably find the answers you seek.

If it's good enough for the government then it's good enough for you.

please do not encourage

Horatio Caine 01-25-2015 03:14 PM

zero sales today

SmutHammer 01-25-2015 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20369840)
Bottom line is if you are not excited about the niche, or are worried about your site's earning potential compared to someone else, then your focus is not where it should be.

:thumbsup

Clay 01-25-2015 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXXtesy10 (Post 20369972)
please do not encourage

I tried to find his address so I could go on google maps and see if he lived in a nice house or a shitty one :1orglaugh

ITraffic 01-25-2015 05:10 PM

pretend to be an interested buyer and get all the financials.

makeabuck 01-25-2015 05:52 PM

Why not just send an email to the owner? The worst they can do is tell you to go fuck yourself. And then who cares.

Clay 01-25-2015 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makeabuck (Post 20370084)
Why not just send an email to the owner? The worst they can do is tell you to go fuck yourself. And then who cares.

the owner hates me because when I started my site I went on his site and wrote to some of his members to check out my site. since then if anyone mentions my site on his they get banned lol

AmeliaG 01-25-2015 10:31 PM

So would everyone.

If you already treated him badly, he isn't going to give you his financials and, if it is not a public company, they won't just be out there for you to see.

fappingJack 01-26-2015 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20369840)
I am sorry but there is simply no way to tell what a site earns by looking at public records or even Alexa rankings.

You would need to know:

Daily traffic
Daily sales
Conversion ratio
Where the traffic is coming from (paid or organic)
If paid traffic how much is he spending to get his sales?

Bottom line is if you are not excited about the niche, or are worried about your site's earning potential compared to someone else, then your focus is not where it should be. Competition is one thing but what I focus on is what can I do to make profits. At the end of the day I don't care what someone else is earning because I can't tell anyway. LOL

Just assume he is making shit and you will kill it. If you are not happy with the money you are bringing in then that's the only real issue.

Good luck man!

I agree. There's NO WAY one will expose his earnings for public display. If you were in his shoes, will you do that? Of course NOT.

iamBoogieman 01-26-2015 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz (Post 20369871)
Break into their office and steal their computers...you will probably find the answers you seek.

If it's good enough for the government then it's good enough for you.

Best answer. :thumbsup

Magnetron 01-26-2015 07:48 AM

Consult a psychic.

I have a brother-in-law who found out from a psychic the wife and I referred him to that he had a sister living in Florida.

Turns out that his father stole him from his mother, sold him to another couple and ended up moving to the Chicago suburbs. He had blocked it all out with the exception of having strange dreams and a vague notion he used to have brother.

No bullshit.

Shap 01-26-2015 07:50 AM

Tell me your competitor i may be able to give you an idea

Manfap 01-26-2015 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clay (Post 20369884)
Awesome thanks! I checked and unfortunately he doesnt have a company name or anything, its kind of like TheHun, it looks more like a hobby website.

That's illegal in Spain. If the site makes any $ you have to have atleast your personal info (autonomous registration number) on the site.

makeabuck 01-26-2015 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clay (Post 20370109)
the owner hates me because when I started my site I went on his site and wrote to some of his members to check out my site. since then if anyone mentions my site on his they get banned lol

Well I hope you learned your lesson. Stealing customers is bad. Don't do that shit.

http://i61.tinypic.com/2jab8gl.jpg

Clay 01-26-2015 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 20370632)
Tell me your competitor i may be able to give you an idea

Can I write to you in private? Dont want to post it here

Barry-xlovecam 01-26-2015 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz (Post 20369871)
Break into their office and steal their computers...you will probably find the answers you seek.

If it's good enough for the government then it's good enough for you.

HAHA! Best answer ....

Said otherwise: Counting other peoples money is mental masturbation.

Clay 01-26-2015 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20370962)
HAHA! Best answer ....

Said otherwise: Counting other peoples money is mental masturbation.

I want to know if he's making movie-money or life changing money

Barry-xlovecam 01-26-2015 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clay (Post 20370977)
I want to know if he's making movie-money or life changing money

Check out his servers and their data center -- if the website is not on dedicated servers he doesn't think it is worth a few hundred or more a month for IT. I would consider that if you need a starting point ...

Clay 01-26-2015 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20371029)
Check out his servers and their data center -- if the website is not on dedicated servers he doesn't think it is worth a few hundred or more a month for IT. I would consider that if you need a starting point ...

What a great idea. I didnt even think of that. Knowing how many servers he runs gives me a better idea at how well he's doing. thanks

Paul 01-26-2015 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ITraffic (Post 20370054)
pretend to be an interested buyer and get all the financials.

/Thread :2 cents:

amateurcanada 01-26-2015 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20369969)
How does The Hun make money?

(Sorry, couldn't resist. LOL)

Lol :) too funny

kittykatt 01-26-2015 11:19 PM

I have a hunch that someone kind of wants to know something from this thread tittle :thumbsup


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