Darwinism lacks explanation for new discovered life that has not evolved for >2 Billion years
 

An international team of scientists has discovered the greatest absence of evolution ever reported — a type of deep-sea microorganism that appears not to have evolved over more than 2 billion years.


“It seems astounding that life has not evolved for more than 2 billion years — nearly half the history of the Earth,” J. William Schopf, a professor at the University of California at Los Angeles, and the study’s lead author, said in a statement.

“Given that evolution is a fact, this lack of evolution needs to be explained.”


Scientists discover organism that hasn't evolved in more than 2 billion years | UCLA

Just quotin'

"Research actually provides further support for Darwin,..."

just re-quoting the study's lead scientist's comment I included in my OP

“Given that evolution is a fact, this lack of evolution needs to be explained.”

It's at the top of the article :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Amazing how people read into shit and forget the bullet points.

Ama-ZING! :1orglaugh

From your link:


?The rule of biology is not to evolve unless the physical or biological environment changes, which is consistent with Darwin,? said Schopf, who also is director of UCLA?s Center for the Study of Evolution and the Origin of Life. The environment in which these microorganisms live has remained essentially unchanged for 3 billion years, he said.

?These microorganisms are well-adapted to their simple, very stable physical and biological environment,? he said. ?If they were in an environment that did not change but they nevertheless evolved, that would have shown that our understanding of Darwinian evolution was seriously flawed.?

When one organism "evolves" into another the original isn't wiped out. If the newly adapted organism doesn't consume all the resources, they'd both have a chance for survival. I don't believe evolution always happens out of necessity.

^^^^^this

To further quote...

“The rule of biology is not to evolve unless the physical or biological environment changes, which is consistent with Darwin,” said Schopf, who also is director of UCLA’s Center for the Study of Evolution and the Origin of Life. The environment in which these microorganisms live has remained essentially unchanged for 3 billion years, he said.

“These microorganisms are well-adapted to their simple, very stable physical and biological environment,” he said. “If they were in an environment that did not change but they nevertheless evolved, that would have shown that our understanding of Darwinian evolution was seriously flawed.”

ie their environment didn't change, so there was no stimulus to inspire any need to evolve.

Once you evolve to being perfect for your environment and the environment isn't subject to any changes there is no need to continue to mutate.

lolz, it appears y'all are not familiar with the socratic method of creating dialogue around critical thinking.

the simple fact is that this discovery allowed further proofing of the theory. FYI, it's still a fucking theory and consequently, this discovery allowed further discussion amongst the intelligent.


y'all are all too busy playing gotcha. have fun with that!

god does not approve this thread

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

it's as if y'all think I stopped reading the article on this right after the quote I used.

the fact is (from the article)::::::::::::

can you brainiacs see the difference here? :1orglaugh

So, how this contradicts with evolution?

Darwinism explains evolution, it does not directly explain the lack of evolution.

It doesn't contradict evolution or god. God created everything and then it started changing for mostly unknown reasons.

where did I say it contradicts evolution?

it says right there - no pressure, no evolving

^^^^^this ?The rule of biology is not to evolve unless the physical or biological environment changes, which is consistent with Darwin,?

That depends what is counted as "environment", as the competition inside the specie is one primary driver for evolution. You know, bigger penises, feathers, more bright colours and so on. That was sexually oriented, but also competition for food etc. Evolution is not just that you adapt into some environment and live happily ever after in some harmony.

Maybe the organism reached its 'evolutionary peak' and can't evolve any further.

BTW, I believe you read the whole article, and I also believe that it'd be wise if someone hands Harmon a dick. :upsidedow

I kept the "lacks" part as that kind of argument.

that's what's so fun about this discovery. Darwinism is the theory of evolution not the theory of the lack of evolution. By making this amazing discovery, science works from the exact opposite view to add proof to the theory. By creating dialogue and asking questions re: Darwinism, science worked.

I like that.

OK, I'll add some more to the dialogue now.

This life form survived 5 mass extinction events.

Are we to believe its environment was so completely protected from these events that consequently, absolutely zero evolution was required?

simple explanation: the environment did not change hence the organism did not change :2 cents:

What's to say this thing didn't actually evolve into a whale and there was never enough competition for resources to wipe out the original creature?

I can't see how evolution would work where every human for instance would instantly change (evolve) into a new species. I assume there'd be a small pack of mutated humans that could theoretically evolve, reproduce and eventually wipe out the original humans.

it would be interesting to find out how much this organism did evolve prior to not evolving..

5 mass extinction events during this 2 billion years. I'm guessing it was deep enough under whatever each and every time that its environment was completely unchanged. food sources, everything.

Why not? Stromatolites were the dominant form of life on Earth for over 4 billion years and their environment did change since then. However, stromatolites have remained the same anyway. Fortunately for all complex life forms something happened that forced evolution to take a leap forward.

exactly. I'm with you,:thumbsup there are so many different types of discussions to have over this discovery.

1/2 the time of Earth's existence and these guys chilled out that whole time! I would bet there is a lot to learn from this/

Protected? How about fit already? You know, for example humans have habitated most of the Earth, at least in terms of areas not under water. That hasn't happened by having significant evolution, we were already fit. Main thing that has changed has been skin colour; that is pretty much it.

Some inventions are timeless and others need tweaking. Evolution probably works like earth gods. Lots of random chance is involved.

You can see it by looking at it. :)

Do you have any proof of this "god"?

Or in other words, stromatolites might have evolved, but those that did evolve, ain't stromatolites anymore. :)

Maybe we are the evolved stromatolites. :)

don't get me wrong, I *think* I understand how rare life is, but surviving 5 mass extinction events and evolving is crazy enough, to survive all those with absolutely zero evolution is truly astounding !!

:2 cents:

This was the same thing that immediatly came into my mind when i read OP's post....
The logic of life is so simple....

It lives in mud.. Mud is an environment of dirt and water. Has dirt & water changed over the last 2 billion years?

while we're at it someone please explain the platypus

ADAPTATION is not EVOLUTION.

Love these debates. LOL

Also, the lack of something does not prove the existence of a thing.
Show me the missing link then maybe I will buy evolution.

ANCIENT ALIENS 4EVER!!!

that's a good point, this organism is even more impressive for future study.

at chernobyl it has.

I didn't have my camera when I met him. He's a pretty cool guy though; great inventor.

I didn't go to school so... This is the first I'm hearing about evolution.

Meteorites and asteroids transport living microorganisms throughout space. They don't evolve during this trip (not that we know of). Perhaps something triggers these microorganisms' 'evolution process' and that something has likely not happened.

Oh, then let me explain it to you:

We all came from monkeys - yet monkeys are all around us still. Hmmm....never mind, we all came from monkeys.

PLANET OF THE APES 4EVER!!!

I know about that part.

While I was skipping school I watched all of katt williams' stand up. Katt Williams - Evolution & Athiests - YouTube

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Darwinism hinges on adaptation.
http://evostudies.org/wp-content/upl...tion-Model.jpg

Oh my God this thread HAS to be embarrassing to OP.

Quick, msg a mod and hope they delete it :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

It would be more to our advantage to intensly study the microbiome living on our species and how it impacts our evolution, then that of deep see mud.

you're bringing God into a thread about evolution. yes, that's embarrassing to me.

not enough to have my fun chatty thread deleted though. :pimp