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blackmonsters 02-19-2015 10:03 AM

Are you a genius? Answer this question.
 
Q: if you are driving in a car at 100 MPH and suddenly slam on the brakes,

while a fly is flying next to you in the front seat,

does the fly get smashed on the windshield?


:1orglaugh

bronco67 02-19-2015 10:06 AM

First of all, let's point out the irony of misspelling the word "brakes" in this thread.

The answer is no, for the same reason you don't fly to the back of an airplane if you jump in the middle of the cabin. Though I don't think knowing that would qualify anyone as a genius.

Choopa Phil 02-19-2015 10:07 AM

No because cars are equipped with brakes not breaks. And also no because the fly has already been accelerated to said speed of 100Mph while being inside

your car.

Edit: Dang it bronco ya beat me to it!

L-Pink 02-19-2015 10:07 AM

I quit reading after "genius and breaks"

aka123 02-19-2015 10:08 AM

Yes, it does smash to windshield. I am not physics kind of genius, but if that fly goes 100mph and your car ain't anymore, there is going to be collision. As does any loose object in your car, including yourself (that's why there are seat belts).

blackmonsters 02-19-2015 10:13 AM

Did anyone who talked shit about my typo get the correct answer?

:1orglaugh

SuckOnThis 02-19-2015 10:16 AM

Does jumping in an elevator make you jump higher?

Choopa Phil 02-19-2015 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20397959)
Yes, it does smash to windshield. I am not physics kind of genius, but if that fly goes 100mph and your car ain't anymore, there is going to be collision. As does any loose object in your car, including yourself (that's why there are seat belts).

Interesting...so if I'm in a plane and it slows down while im not wearing my seatbelt and jump up in the air I'll get smashed into the front of the plan at around 4-500mph...

clickity click 02-19-2015 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20397954)
First of all, let's point out the irony of misspelling the word "brakes" in this thread.

The answer is no, for the same reason you don't fly to the back of an airplane if you jump in the middle of the cabin. Though I don't think knowing that would qualify anyone as a genius.

It's not spelt wron.

Choopa Phil 02-19-2015 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickity click (Post 20397968)
It's not spelt wron.

It was spelled "breaks" before it was edited.

blackmonsters 02-19-2015 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20397954)
The answer is no, for the same reason you don't fly to the back of an airplane if you jump in the middle of the cabin. Though I don't think knowing that would qualify anyone as a genius.

That's not a good comparison because the plane does not suddenly change speeds.
Better comparison is if the plane crashed straight down on it's belly with a fly in flight.
Would the fly be slammed to the floor?

blackmonsters 02-19-2015 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 20397973)
It was spelled "breaks" before it was edited.

No it wasn't.

:1orglaugh

Phoenix 02-19-2015 10:33 AM

The fly is in the air when you hit the brakes. So yes iit will hit the windshield. The fly is moving at 100mph with the car. However it is not attached to the car. Bronco... you had the right idea but backwards. If you jumped in the air at the sametime as a plane suddenly decreased its velocity say by 100mph. You would certainly be diaplaced several meters by the time you landed. Then probably break your neck because good luck landing at 100mph.

Choopa Phil 02-19-2015 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20397978)
That's not a good comparison because the plane does not suddenly change speeds.
Better comparison is if the plane crashed straight down on it's belly with a fly in flight.
Would the fly be slammed to the floor?

hitting the brakes and slowing down (albeit in a plane) is the same thing. You did not specify crashing or a sudden stop.

blackmonsters 02-19-2015 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20397965)
Does jumping in an elevator make you jump higher?

If the elevator is going down at 20 miles an hours and you jump up does you head hit the roof?

:1orglaugh

L-Pink 02-19-2015 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20397979)
No it wasn't.

:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh yea, ok .......

CPA-Rush 02-19-2015 10:42 AM

physics not my subject . :)

Phoenix 02-19-2015 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 20397967)
Interesting...so if I'm in a plane and it slows down while im not wearing my seatbelt and jump up in the air I'll get smashed into the front of the plan at around 4-500mph...

no because you are already moving at the speed of the plane. If the plane stopped or instantly changed its speed when you were in the air then that is a fair comparison to the fly scenario.


QED

blackmonsters 02-19-2015 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 20397983)
hitting the brakes and slowing down (albeit in a plane) is the same thing. You did not specify crashing or a sudden stop.

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20397950)
Q: if you are driving in a car at 100 MPH and suddenly slam on the brakes,

Imagine that the car comes to a very hard sudden stop(with some sliding of course).

brassmonkey 02-19-2015 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20397965)
Does jumping in an elevator make you jump higher?

which planet? :helpme

TheSquealer 02-19-2015 11:00 AM

Holy fuck people. If you jump up in the air in a plane, you come down in the same place (close to it) because you are moving at the same speed as the plane. If the plane decelerates from 500MPH to 0MPH in a short distance such as plowing into the side of a mountain... you certainly continue forward at 500MPH. If it slows down, while you are suspended in the air, obviously you move forward because you are then moving forward faster than the plane. I mean this Sesame Street level physics here.

http://stepasideshow.com/wp-content/.../12/grover.jpg

L-Pink 02-19-2015 11:04 AM

Did you know if you are in an elevator and the cable breaks all you have to do is jump right before it hits bottom and you'll be ok? Fact! Happened to me twice.


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aka123 02-19-2015 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 20397967)
Interesting...so if I'm in a plane and it slows down while im not wearing my seatbelt and jump up in the air I'll get smashed into the front of the plan at around 4-500mph...

It doesn't matter whether you jump in the air or not (although in the air there is less friction). The speed difference between you and the plane is what matters. Or if you think that you can survive car crash by jumping on your seat; be my guest. :)

_Richard_ 02-19-2015 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20397954)
First of all, let's point out the irony of misspelling the word "brakes" in this thread.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

arock10 02-19-2015 11:23 AM

I was plowing your mom at 100mph last night and then came and suddenly stopped but was unhurt. She may have not survived

blackmonsters 02-19-2015 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 20398045)
I was plowing your mom at 100mph last night and then came and suddenly stopped but was unhurt. She may have not survived

Next time turn on the light; that was your mom.

:1orglaugh

dyna mo 02-19-2015 11:31 AM

that's not genius level physics, that's basic entry level physics.

Newton's first law: an object in motion stays in motion unless acted upon by an equal or greater force.

now that said, it can get complicated due to the density of air and the weight of the fly.

pornmasta 02-19-2015 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20397950)
Q: if you are driving in a car at 100 MPH and suddenly slam on the brakes,

while a fly is flying next to you in the front seat,

does the fly get smashed on the windshield?


:1orglaugh

yes.....

why: because i'm a genius

Rochard 02-19-2015 11:49 AM

The fly would smash into the windshield.

Best-In-BC 02-19-2015 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20397950)
Q: if you are driving in a car at 100 MPH and suddenly slam on the brakes,

while a fly is flying next to you in the front seat,

does the fly get smashed on the windshield?


:1orglaugh

No, the inertia is not strong enough vs its light weight.

CDSmith 02-19-2015 11:58 AM

Evil genius, yes.

I am now working on tiny seatbelt prototype to protect fly from windscreen impact.

Shark Tank here I come.

Best-In-BC 02-19-2015 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 20398079)
Evil genius, yes.

I am now working on tiny seatbelt prototype to protect fly from windscreen impact.

Shark Tank here I come.

bahahahha:thumbsup

ManPuppy 02-19-2015 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20398030)
Did you know if you are in an elevator and the cable breaks all you have to do is jump right before it hits bottom and you'll be ok? Fact! Happened to me twice.


.

Mental note - Never get in an elevator with you.

bronco67 02-19-2015 12:30 PM

What if the front and back windshields were not on the car? The car would no longer be it's own environment. By the way, I think I brought this up to my dad when I was about 8 years old. He said "shut the hell up, I'm driving."

blackmonsters 02-19-2015 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20398056)
that's not genius level physics, that's basic entry level physics.

Newton's first law: an object in motion stays in motion unless acted upon by an equal or greater force.

now that said, it can get complicated due to the density of air and the weight of the fly.

Like I would get a lot of views with this title "Are you basic entry level smart".

:1orglaugh

All flies weigh the same and all air in a car has the same density so answer the question.

TheSquealer 02-19-2015 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 20398079)
Evil genius, yes.

I am now working on tiny seatbelt prototype to protect fly from windscreen impact.

Shark Tank here I come.

I always have mixed feelings watching that show. Part of me wants to cheer on the guy with ambition and drive and determination to succeed... but part of me wants to sterilize them when i see what they are trying to market. (like the guy for instance who created a workout shirt where when its soaked in sweat, the logo then appears on the chest)

dyna mo 02-19-2015 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20398115)
Like I would get a lot of views with this title "Are you basic entry level smart".

:1orglaugh

All flies weigh the same and all air in a car has the same density so answer the question.

Sure thing, I'll need the weight of the fly and the density of the air.

Clam 02-19-2015 02:20 PM

My answer is, "maybe". The fly's reference frame is the air in the car, meaning that the fly is positioning itself relative to the mass of air in the car. When you hit the brakes, everything in the car will move toward the front because everything in the car has forward inertia while the car itself is rapidly losing inertia. The air mass in the car will slightly compress at the front of cabin and decompress at the rear, but since the cabin of the vehicle is completely filled with air, there should be no huge air currents created. The fly will probably move forward somewhat. Will it hit the windshield? Maybe, but I kinda doubt it. Of course, this is all predicated on the idea that the windows are up.

But hell, what do I know? My degree is in computer science, not physics...

CDSmith 02-19-2015 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20398126)
I always have mixed feelings watching that show. Part of me wants to cheer on the guy with ambition and drive and determination to succeed... but part of me wants to sterilize them when i see what they are trying to market. (like the guy for instance who created a workout shirt where when its soaked in sweat, the logo then appears on the chest)

Agreed. I am however quite certain that my fly seatbelt will be well recieved.

Choopa Phil 02-19-2015 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clam (Post 20398187)
My answer is, "maybe". The fly's reference frame is the air in the car, meaning that the fly is positioning itself relative to the mass of air in the car. When you hit the brakes, everything in the car will move toward the front because everything in the car has forward inertia while the car itself is rapidly losing inertia. The air mass in the car will slightly compress at the front of cabin and decompress at the rear, but since the cabin of the vehicle is completely filled with air, there should be no huge air currents created. The fly will probably move forward somewhat. Will it hit the windshield? Maybe, but I kinda doubt it. Of course, this is all predicated on the idea that the windows are up.

But hell, what do I know? My degree is in computer science, not physics...

I just don't think a car can decelerate that fast using the brakes alone...hitting a brick wall yea the fly might hit the windshield. Slamming the brakes not so much.

aka123 02-19-2015 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 20398210)
I just don't think a car can decelerate that fast using the brakes alone...hitting a brick wall yea the fly might hit the windshield. Slamming the brakes not so much.

Well, kill a fly and put it to little crash test. Not that hard. At least you would hit the windshield, why not the fly?

Or buy some coke from McDonalds, open the cup's cap, hold the coke in your hand and hit the brakes from 100 mph and see what happens.

Choopa Phil 02-19-2015 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20398225)
Well, kill a fly and put it to little crash test. Not that hard. At least you would hit the windshield, why not the fly?

Or buy some coke from McDonalds, open the cup's cap, hold the coke in your hand and hit the brakes from 100 mph and see what happens.

A fly is a living object that can compensate. During its daily routine has all sorts of pressure and wind force exerted to its body during natural flight. A coke on the other hand doesnt. I understand what you're saying though. Just wondering if a fly actually has the capacity to compensate...maybe not at 100mph but at some speed.

GAMEFINEST 02-19-2015 03:23 PM

I didn't read, Thanks

blackmonsters 02-19-2015 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20398225)
Well, kill a fly and put it to little crash test. Not that hard. At least you would hit the windshield, why not the fly?

Or buy some coke from McDonalds, open the cup's cap, hold the coke in your hand and hit the brakes from 100 mph and see what happens.

You can't kill the fly; the whole point is that the fly is airborne and flying.

aka123 02-19-2015 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20398244)
You can't kill the fly; the whole point is that the fly is airborne and flying.

It being airborne means that it will hit the windshield easier (less friction) and that flying part probably doesn't do much. There was stuff about compensating, but how will the fly know to compensate? You tell it that you will hit the brakes and explain that it will hit the windshield if it doesn't compensate?

aka123 02-19-2015 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 20398239)
A fly is a living object that can compensate. During its daily routine has all sorts of pressure and wind force exerted to its body during natural flight. A coke on the other hand doesnt. I understand what you're saying though. Just wondering if a fly actually has the capacity to compensate...maybe not at 100mph but at some speed.

Compensate for what? The fly will happily continue to "fly" 100 mph, until it isn't so happy anymore.

Choopa Phil 02-19-2015 03:31 PM

We need to create a fly impact detection system so the fly has ample warning and can begin to fly backwards

TheSquealer 02-19-2015 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20398244)
You can't kill the fly; the whole point is that the fly is airborne and flying.

It is flying at 100mph +/- it's own airspeed/direction. How is that not obvious?

dyna mo 02-19-2015 03:44 PM

Is it an african or european fly?

http://i.imgur.com/bDPLZsA.jpg

aka123 02-19-2015 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 20398257)
We need to create a fly impact detection system so the fly has ample warning and can begin to fly backwards

I was developing this but I got flyswatter industry all over me. Same thing happened to my car that doesn't need any fuel or power source whatsoever.


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