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ilnjscb 03-01-2015 02:18 PM

Anyone know how to defend in a wikipedia war?
 
I've got a situation where someone deleted most of a wikipedia entry, then posted a press release basically crapping on the subject.

Is there any way to defend against this other than editing every time? There must be a defense playbook.

TheSquealer 03-01-2015 02:24 PM

You get a life. Get off the computer and go outside and do actual things in the real world.

AdultKing 03-01-2015 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20406933)
You get a life. Get off the computer and go outside and do actual things in the real world.

:1orglaugh

pornmasta 03-01-2015 02:26 PM

this question can be useful.
there is a lot of propagandists in wikipedia

TheSquealer 03-01-2015 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20406936)
this question can be useful.
there is a lot of propagandists in wikipedia

There is a lot of everything online. Most of it sucks.

ilnjscb 03-01-2015 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20406933)
You get a life. Get off the computer and go outside and do actual things in the real world.

Telling me to get a life but you answer a post in 6 minutes? Just answer the question, skweeler

ilnjscb 03-01-2015 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20406936)
this question can be useful.
there is a lot of propagandists in wikipedia

There are some capable people here, maybe someone will have real ideas.

ilnjscb 03-01-2015 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20406935)
:1orglaugh

Dude, seriously? You're one of my heroes - my wounded heart!!

If you have any actual tips I'd appreciate it.

TheSquealer 03-01-2015 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20406939)
Telling me to get a life but you answer a post in 6 minutes? Just answer the question, skweeler

I'm waiting for my food to come.

There is no answer. Two random dysfunctional or immature Internet dipshits are engaged in a contest of wills. The first to burn out loses. Or... you could focus on productivity and enjoying life.

aka123 03-01-2015 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20406930)
I've got a situation where someone deleted most of a wikipedia entry, then posted a press release basically crapping on the subject.

Is there any way to defend against this other than editing every time? There must be a defense playbook.

All the changes are in the memory; you just reverse to previous edition and that is it. Assuming you have priviledges to do that, or however it works these days (I haven't done Wikipedia for a while). In mega debated topics you can't make changes anymore if you aren't some super administrator, but I don't think this is that debated topic. So reverse baby, reverse.

AdultKing 03-01-2015 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20406941)
Dude, seriously? You're one of my heroes - my wounded heart!!

If you have any actual tips I'd appreciate it.

There are steps that you can take on Wikipedia to have reviews of page wars, edit wars or abuse.

Wikipedia:Reviewing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Beyond that I am not sure what you can do. As an open system it's able to be abused. Wikipedia will moderate the pages of particularly sensitive, abused or repeatedly mis-edited subjects.

There's several things to consider, the primary thing will be the importance of the page. If it's a page on an unknown band it's going to receive less moderation than the page on Israel (which is continually attacked by vandals and propagandists).

rogueteens 03-01-2015 06:14 PM

don't even bother, sensible people know that Wikipedia isn't to be trusted.

ErectMedia 03-01-2015 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20406933)
You get a life. Get off the computer and go outside and do actual things in the real world.

:1orglaugh

420 03-01-2015 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20406933)
You get a life. Get off the computer and go outside and do actual things in the real world.

When I go out there all I can think about is how some asshole changed my wiki page.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20406938)
There is a lot of everything online. Most of it sucks.

I bet that means there is a lot of everything that sucks in the real world. I should probably stay inside.

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20406943)
I'm waiting for my food to come.

There is no answer. Two random dysfunctional or immature Internet dipshits are engaged in a contest of wills. The first to burn out loses. Or... you could focus on productivity and enjoying life.

TheSquealer is the internet's voice of reason. Focus on life for a few weeks then go back and change the wiki. :thumbsup

CPA-Rush 03-01-2015 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20406933)
You get a life. Get off the computer and go outside and do actual things in the real world.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

mineistaken 03-01-2015 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20406943)
I'm waiting for my food to come.

There is no answer. Two random dysfunctional or immature Internet dipshits are engaged in a contest of wills. The first to burn out loses. Or... you could focus on productivity and enjoying life.

How do you know that article is not hurting reputation, business or cost money in any other way? That would be serious "life" right there.

dyna mo 03-01-2015 08:44 PM

how do we know OP is on right side of argument? I want to help but with great power comes great responsibility.

ilnjscb 03-01-2015 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20407164)
How do you know that article is not hurting reputation, business or cost money in any other way? That would be serious "life" right there.

This ^^^ of course *we here* all know not to "trust wikipedia" but a lot of folks don't. Some people take what a wikipedia page says very seriously; so while I'm skipping through the tulips, as advocated by shkweeler, some devil has turned revenue away from my door!

Thanks for the tip AK, I'll school myself in the rules and hope for the best.

TheSquealer 03-01-2015 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20407182)
This ^^^ of course *we here* all know not to "trust wikipedia" but a lot of folks don't. Some people take what a wikipedia page says very seriously; so while I'm skipping through the tulips, as advocated by shkweeler, some devil has turned revenue away from my door!

Thanks for the tip AK, I'll school myself in the rules and hope for the best.

have someone write a simple bot that scrapes the page, then visits it periodically to compare the saved version with the current version and then notifies you of changes (for example on Ubot forums). each time you get a notification, have the bot then go to the page, login and revert it back to the other version. Then never think about it again and try to focus on productivity.

you can't win a war with an idiot who has nothing but time on his hands.... by fighting a battle where you have nothing to win and by investing more time than him. be smart. think. :)

dyna mo 03-01-2015 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20407182)
some devil has turned revenue away from my door!

figures.

RyuLion 03-01-2015 09:24 PM

lol........

NaughtyVisions 03-01-2015 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20407182)
This ^^^ of course *we here* all know not to "trust wikipedia" but a lot of folks don't. Some people take what a wikipedia page says very seriously;

Seems legit to me...

https://wikibomb.files.wordpress.com...ng?w=630&h=397

http://wikibomb.files.wordpress.com/...bomb.png?w=630

https://wikibomb.files.wordpress.com...ng?w=630&h=472

http://wikibomb.files.wordpress.com/...pg?w=630&h=546

http://wikibomb.files.wordpress.com/...pg?w=630&h=501

http://wikibomb.files.wordpress.com/...ng?w=630&h=354

http://therapup.net/wp-content/uploa...pedia-page.jpg

http://s1.totalprosports.com/wp-cont...dia-page-1.png

Harmonizer 03-01-2015 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions (Post 20407249)
Seems legit to me...

You are quoting a wikibomb.files.wordpress site...

NaughtyVisions 03-01-2015 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Harmonizer (Post 20407251)
You are quoting a wikibomb.files.wordpress site...

Of wikipedia vandalism edits....

ilnjscb 03-02-2015 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20407206)
have someone write a simple bot that scrapes the page, then visits it periodically to compare the saved version with the current version and then notifies you of changes (for example on Ubot forums). each time you get a notification, have the bot then go to the page, login and revert it back to the other version. Then never think about it again and try to focus on productivity.

you can't win a war with an idiot who has nothing but time on his hands.... by fighting a battle where you have nothing to win and by investing more time than him. be smart. think. :)

nice one - I wonder if this exists anywhere, then at least you'd get notified

slapass 03-02-2015 05:38 AM

The whole thing is based on being able to footnote trusted sites. If it is something that is news worthy just get it out more so that you have more quotable sources.

_Richard_ 03-02-2015 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20406939)
Telling me to get a life but you answer a post in 6 minutes? Just answer the question, skweeler

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