Anyone ever wanted your site out of business? What to do?
 

Lets start from scratch: I run I want porn! - a website I coded entirely line by line myself (except the Joomla-backend)- since May 2014.

http://i.imgur.com/kqGidto.jpg

And there is "theporndude", who claims that I've cloned/copied his site. There are a lot of porn directories out there and the I've seen this column-design first at TBLOP and definitely not TPD.
So for me this is ridiculous, but he already convinced himself and I guess there is nothing I can do to change his mind on that.

Actually I'd give a fuck on his opinion, if he would not contact other webmasters to cancel established link/traffic-trades to my site. :disgust
We increase traffic all the time, but he has a lot more - And so he holds the whip hand when he forces them with something like "Remove the link to Iwantporn or I remove mine to your site"

There are more porn directories/linksites like that (where I think mine is the greatest of course ;), but it seems he is only concerned about mine. So I guess I do something right. ;)

I also have a lot of conversations with various webmasters, where some set my link back when they heard the story from my POV, but I guess I would have AT LEAST twice the traffic without his efforts.

Anyone had something similar? How do you get rid of such a disease?

what is the porndudes site? so we can compar \e

edit: The Porn Dude - Top Porn Sites List! ....

my take not identical... similar yes... but not a exact copy...

Just for the records. The link to TBLOP, who were the first with a column design (I guess 2009?)
TBLOP - The Big List of Porn

bro... ill take to to my tgp experiences back in the day... all of em practically looked similar give or take...


I mean looking at it is a directory... i have no clue how much different besides logos and color and add ons can make them look different....

Dragon's Lair rocks - but thats not the topic! ;]

In the same way that bing is similar to google, or every TGP is similar to thumbzilla.

I made similar sites back in 2001 (non adult but with adult links), TPD didn't invent this design or concept.

Thats also my point of view - still he gives a fuck.
He is also around on GFY, but said that he will not discuss this anymore. Maybe he will on this thread...

if it was me , I would tell him to eat a dick... but then again I can to that ...

fuck him , just beat him and if he plays dirty tell him to lick your taint..

alot of whiny cunts these days...


maybe there is another side to the story so ill wait also till i hear that side...




He is cyberbullying u

that is seriously fucked up, the guy is nothing else than parasite and damage to your business, good to know man, hope you can solve the situation and the idiot will get fucked! :2 cents: i have respect to everyone doing legit business, but someone who is putting shit on competition in any way have to get fucked straight to the ass! :2 cents:

well based on what i see on the design till i hear his side then i can only give my opinion...



But I would tell him to eat my dick

Teen cat 4 life

So basically he ripped the design from tblop.com then busts your balls for a design similar to his? LOL. It's a link list ffs.

yes, its fucked.
I daily check backlinks to see if I have to contact someone to redo his actions. And just a few stand up for me. Unfortunately most of them just don't want any troubles.

Yes, thats it. But he also claims that I have copied "his" categories and "his" sites.

I guess he does not understand that there HAVE TO BE commonalities when we list "the best porn sites". And categories -yes- I will remove my tubes, TGPs and amateur section, because they "are taken by theporndude" :1orglaugh

I understand why he asks webmasters to remove links to your site. You are his competition. It's kind of like how porn forums do not want you mentioning other porn forums.

If he is saying you copied him then he is full of shit and is a dumbass. But the link removal makes sense.

I made a post in this thread showing which website is older and younger by using the way back machine.

http://m.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-program-discussion/1151546-porn-lists-websites-copied.html

The porn dude is not very old

No sorry - thats not the same with the forums.
On a forum owners don't want links to other forums on THEIR platform and not on other websites.

I do understand that TPD wont link directly to my site =P

so are you doing it, that removal links or similar things? just to have it clear ... people who are doing it are worse than some tubes and so, because they are fucking directly with your hard work, and those people have to vanish from this and any industry :2 cents:

Thats fucked up but that is an old trick - "if you want my product you have to use it exclusively". He knows you are solid competition and so is trying to beat you with the shelf space game before you get big enough to fight back.

Real way to beat him, IMVHO, is establish personal relationships with as many sites as you can, don't whine, but admit the challenge, as you have done here. In the long run people get tired of that shit and want a good player.

Thats what I do right now - and of course I wont stop.

Nevertheless this is very time-consuming and when I think of the HQ sites where my link was placed once (and his still is), it is quite hard to compete.

So people - who wants to trade?:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

He has A LOT of links to piracy sites, and the sponsors he contacts pull your links? That's crazy!

(Of course, you're not exactly in the clear on that count either - perhaps you could use that in your rebuttal "Yeah, I link to people who steal from you, but THEY do it more!")

So you took the design from TBLOP instead of TPD? I'm confused.

No, not really. I just wanted to say, that IF someone may claim that I've copied the idea of the design it would be TBLOP and not TPD.

I don't see any "cloning" of TBLOP neither. But I knew TBLOP before and I also use a "column-design with rounded edges".

Just to be clear, "The Porn Dude" is NOT me, The Porn NERD. :)

Just keep going man and don't worry about what another site is doing. If you encounter sites that side with him write them off and move on. In the end whoever works harder will "win". :)

just get more backlinks that he cannot influence

Iwantporn is the list with "the best and most popular pornsites" - so its hard to write off very good sites. I mean I want a decent list with truly gems and so I really want good sites on the list. ;)
Additional there are a lot of niche-sites where there unfortunately is no good alternative.

its just fucked :ugone2far

I do - but budget is limited. To outperform him with backlinks would be a fortune.

those sites have quite high alexa rating, how much traffic can those 1pagers gain organically?

or is it all bought traffic and pop unders?

ROFL, MadTHumbs was the first

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Most tubes look the same and YouTube was the first.
And aren't all blogs the same? They have posts sidebars and banners pretty much the same layouts.

His design is not original, by any means. I have seen similar things going back 15 years or more.

Tell 'em to go fuck himself.

He does not deserve anything more.

The layouts are all the same, what other options are there for a site like that?

The designs on the other hand, well they aren't even close to being similar, even the most basic things like *colours* are worlds apart.

The main focus in on the index-site, but there are subsites for each category and details for every site. (You go there by clicking the category in a column.
Examples:
I want porn! - Best porn tubes (try the sort-thing! :P)
I want porn! - Met-art (met-art.com)

One more thing :)
Just wanted to say that I don't want to "win" - I just dont want anyone sabotaging my site.
I don't want him "down" or something similar. Just that everyone can go his own way.

Tho I wouldnt be sad if he would be gone :winkwink:

As I just lost another link I want to refresh this thread a bit. ;)

I know there are some people here on GFY wo have deals with him. May I ask - without an ulterior motive-why?

As "newb" already said, TPD has a LOT of piracy sites -actually categories only listing such sites- and also deals traffic with them. So you basically send him visitors and in return you get "pirates" directly to your sites. People who don't pay for shit. ;]

I do know that for some people traffic is just traffic. But is it really profitable?

PS: Free cookies for everyone at iwantporn ;]

I'm just here for the cookies. =) I'd rather have some special brownies though. :winkwink:

I was just throwing out a recognizable TGP name to make the point that similar is not equal to copied copyrighted material or design.

Wait a minute, 1's and 0's? That's mine!

Those special brownies are not free - and only available under the counter. "take one and go away..GO!"

Well, by "win" I meant YOU win, in your life and business. Winning, despite what Charlie Sheen may think, is really about YOUR life and what YOU want. What another person or business does or has should not affect you, unless you are into jealousy and envy. :) Do your own thing and "win" at your own life.

PS: Add my sites! LOL

I've only ever encountered one real disgruntled person who tried to mess around with my sites.

She key worded up her new website with my website name in the form of "I don't work at suchandsuch.com anymore" so anytime someone looked for my site, hers would pop up.

I waited for her to go away, I had my attorney send her a cease and desist. She ignored that demand and so, sometimes you gotta fight fire with fire. I have 35+ people working for me against just her. So, pretty quickly we solved that issue when I decided to play that way, though I definitely did not want to play. Sometimes you just have to lay the smack down and say......No bitch, NOT TODAY.

She's irrelevant now and this guy will be eventually. Sometimes it's better just to plug on and let his karma be his karma. Cheating in business is never the way to "stay" ahead in my experience, but once in a while you do have to roll up your sleeves and get nasty.

Just don't let it consume you.

Here's a pro tip for you: Everyone you compete with wants you out of business. All of them. The ones wasting time trying to get rid of you are literally your smallest concern.

Just focus on being the best option available to your customers and business partners and you can safely ignore the "competition".

If people don't want to do business with you for whatever the reason may be, then let it be their loss. If losing your business is truly a loss for them they will see it and others will too. And if it isn't you didn't deserve them in the first place.

Focus on what's really important and ignore the idiots. There are a lot of them so there's a lot of ignoring to do, best get started now.

@The Porn Nerd: got ya ;) The sites from your sig? Ill review them. And hit me up if you want to trade links somewhere ;)

@MakeMeGrrrrowl: Hope you are right with karma. The bad guy never wins in movies and lets see if it is here, too... ;)

@pompousjohn: Basically I agree, but I can't be the best option (at least for webmasters), when he is sending much more traffic. And I won't send an competitive amount if I lose backlinks every few days. Kind of a Sisyphus-thing.

But all in all thanks for the good words everyone.
Lets see how I compete in the future. Some sent me a PM with suggestions. I'll try them out!;)
And if some wants to switches from TPD to IWP or just don't give a fuck on his threats the offer still holds: free cookies for everyone! :D

Seems you are repeating capitalism in fast motion. Competitors are gaining strength by swallowing other competitors, eventually they are setting the standards. That guy obviously is on a mission. Like world domination.
When business rivals discuss they do it because all parts are benefitting from it. They find a solution fitting for everybody in their exclusive club. We call this cartel, or antitrust. See the news for popular examples. But TPD is not interested in discussing with you, because he wants to get rid of you.
You can take this to the public (like here), but apart from a few nice words you won't get much help. Most folks will just look for the popcorn.
In your position, I'd try to expand my activities to something TPD can't easily copy. You know some of the guys in your list personally? Write a review about their stuff, let them write guest posts on your site or something like that. Or, if you're a programmer, why not do a simple popularity contest with a bit of celebration for the winner? Focusing on your own mission, not his one, is the key.
You still would have a porn site directory, but with a personal touch. Will grow your traffic. Makes you laugh about TPD.

Not saying you copied, but the fact that you coded something yourself does not mean it can not be copied concept (not the code itself, but the concept).

true, but as I said: If it is copied (and I say its not) than it is copied from TBLOP, not him.
Thats the point