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How do companies stay open that never pull a profit?
Companies like Sears and Salesforce?
Sears hasn't pulled a profit it a long time. Salesforce has a rising stock price, but hasn't pulled a profit since they were created, back in 1999. How do they do it? |
Amazon is 20 years old. Never made a penny.
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Few of the many ways to enjoy profit without company being profitable - high salaries at the expense of profit, supplying merchandise/services to your main company at pretty high costs (all profit stays at that supplier company).
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AMZN Annual Income Statement - Amazon.com Inc. Annual Financials |
A better question is "why the hell should a company like godaddy be able to do an IPO in the year 2015.... Give their intense debt and having never turned a profit"
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Profit is not that important if you have a Positive Cash flow
A few non cash expenses Writing off Goodwill Depreciation Also if your cash flow your overhead but the above make you lose many you can get Tax credits |
It's amazing, it's like it's a big scam run by Wall Street. If people keep buying your stock maintaining or increasing the share price then a company can just go on losing money - until the market loses faith in the company.
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Everything is a write off
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special math :2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:
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Leveraged debt.
Turnaround plans you can get creditors to believe. Lots of other ways. |
In Amazon's case it's that they keep spending and expanding, they have oodles of cash but it all goes back into the business - their end game is that one day they will have this huge customer base and they'll be spending much less and become very profitable. And up until now investors believe in the plan.
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what ^^ said is correct.,
they keep building new warehouses and buying things to expand business, so they can show no profit., but in reality that is not a loss that is investment. |
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How else can you explain Pepsi buying Taco Bell, KFC, and Pizza Hut at the height of their popularity and basically running all 3 businesses into the ground. It's all about the write offs.:1orglaugh |
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So, unless the company sells its own stocks in a way or another; it will go down without other money sources, like loaning money. About the other issue; investing vs dividents. Theoretically it is considered that selling stocks to get money from raised stock price and dividents are the same thing as a money source, but I prefer dividents. Also in the case of large stock holders; you don't lose voting power with dividents, as it is usually vote per share (unless there is different stock series). So if you want to rule the company, dividents are always better than selling your power over the company. |
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in the USA bubble=success ...perceived value is much more important than actual value...debt=success...
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Losses
Any Hollywood movie that makes a profit, you're going to see fired accountants. The whole goal of a movie is not to show a profit.
My girl friend's sister loves Titanic and refused to believe me when I said they might turn a profit about the year 2075, if that soon. Movie stars know to ask for money up front, as they get screwed if they ask for a percentage of net profits, gross profits, any profits. Just ask Mel Brooks & Gene Wilder in The Producers. Show a profit, you're fucked |
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