Sometimes I think the US military does shit just because..
 

Out of all the crazy shit you might happen to see.. This..

http://i.imgur.com/Pbr3jMP.jpg

A HC-130 (I think?) refueling two Sikorsky's carrying 2 Hummers each..

What you cant see is 50 the Cirque Du Soleil acrobats...

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that's fucking BADASS!

Hummers gotta joy ride too.

Probably practicing for a possible action.

Instant 4 véhicules and 16 mobile troops on the ground.

Of course they do it just because, that is how they become capable to do shit like that.

Amazing really. I guess they could carry a tank instead of 2 hummers probably as well.

Our military is fucking amazing.

that is badass , looks like scene from movie., amazing.

Not with a helicopter

Why not? :winkwink:

#'Merica

Because the US Army's current M1A2 battle tank weighs over 137k pounds.

So, figure out why not.

Is that a finance thing ?

Actually I was kidding. However Mi-12 theoretically can transport one T-72 :)

Excuse me? I didn't get this question.

Mi-26 and the US CH-47 Chinook in Afghanistan:

http://www.opoccuu.com/mi-26.35.jpg

oh look the #1 terrorist organization in the world is re-fueling in mid air...what defenseless country will they attack next? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

waste of money

Yours.. so bend over and take it like a man.. or bitch your choice.

"The final issue regarding helicopters on the battlefield comes down to an unpleasant premise. The United States may not always be conducting war with a third-world country. It is clear that any competent army armed with sophisticated anti-aircraft weaponry or aviation assets, will quickly drive our fleet of attack and reconnaissance helicopters from the sky, rendering them to a marginal role as a vehicle used for air evacuation and mop-up operations. "

The Helicopter's Grim Future in Modern Combat

There you go - that operation probably cost 1m. Meanwhile, defense contractors suck 300,000b or more out of the US every year with very few results. All they've ever done is fucked us up, put soldiers in harms way, and all so the people who actually fight can come home and get neglected. Shitbags. And fuckin Haliburton had the nerve to try to leave the US for tax reasons!! They're the biggest private cost and the biggest lobby, but no one says anything because they equate them with actual soldiers. /rant

Seems we can lift some tanks or armored vehicles....

http://www.g2mil.com/V-22up1.jpg

I do not believe helicopters are on their way out. Having the weapons to take down a helicopter and the ability is two different things. All countries have anti aircraft measures; Vietnam did in the 1960s/1970s including the Type 63 and the ZSU 57 - deadly for helicopters for sure, yet helicopters were an important part of the war. Iraq had a massive anti aircraft ability, but the very first strike of the Iraq war destroyed any attempt at anti aircraft defense.

While targeting measures are much more sophisticated, it works both ways. An anti aircraft missile system can target a helicopter from a longer distance but at the very same time land based missile systems are tracked in real time and can be taken out by ships at sea.

Ironically, the best anti aircraft defense might be the old school Stingers. No one knows where one might pop up, turn it on, shoot, walk away before any action can be taken.

Helicopters have evolved to a point now where they are more like planes.

http://images.fineartamerica.com/ima...rek-images.jpg

on it's way to spread more freedom :thumbsup

Read the whole article. It addresses Vietnam too.

"The combat record of the helicopter in Vietnam was different from subsequent battlefields. That was true by virtue of the limitations of the Viet Cong-NVA firing accuracy, the limitations of their weaponry - including quantity - and the visual limitations of the jungle or forests which served to protect the helicopters flying overhead."

"The harsh reality is that today the helicopter is a terrible choice of troop transport or firepower against any competent or well-equipped force - of any size

Whether in Mogadishu 10 years ago or Iraq today, the helicopter equation has changed for the worse. Typically, the adversary's ground arms are more available. And whether by luck or skill, the effectiveness of enemy ordnance is far greater than that experienced in Vietnam."

The Helicopter's Grim Future in Modern Combat


Iraq had some anti-AA stuff, yes, but its military lacked will and training, and under these conditions the desert environment favoured US troops. Especially as Iraq didn't have that good airforce combined with other measures; those can for example be used to sink the ships you mentioned. In Falkland it was noticed that ships are quite vulnerable even for a tad potent enemy.

Some SAM missile ground stations are not that much alone.


" After this episode, the Iraqis made no more air efforts of their own, only sending most of their jets to Iran in hopes that they might someday get their air force back. Iran never returned the jets."

Gulf War air campaign - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

LOL. Fucking good use to have jets in Iran. :)

'our military' like you're talking about a football team, 'is fucking amazing' like you're talking about something with a positive goal. The brainwashing of your feeble mind has been highly succesful but what else is new.

I think you mis understand the concept of thinking something is cool or amazing versus actions. Military capabilities and technology is quite an amazing things some times. However just because someone finds it amazing doesn't mean they relish in the thoughts of war, death or killing. Don't be so quick to hate everything..

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Exactly. Or not. Whatever.

You sure that's not just the plot-line of the next Michael Bay movie?

oh no I just run the fuck away every time...only a stupid mother fucker fights over who he will pay taxes to next :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

crucisfissio knows with complete certainty how fucking BADASS that op image is.

he just can't admit it.

Applied on a large scale, it might be a tad crowded. This running away I mean. But few sneaky weasels can always make for it.

In army we called those as "juicy targets". Or any fueling actually. In military sense there is very vulnerable fueling situation and two helicopters with payloads those make these copters as sitting ducks.

it's like you think mid-air refueling is not an option and inherently without risk, etc, et al. :1orglaugh supply chains are always a challenge and always a target. for any military.

i mean really.

I get the tone of your message, but not the English that much. However, my point was seeing that as vulnerable situation, not as some bad-ass situation.

everything in battle has a vulnerability the enemy can exploit. that's just a fact of war. there is no guaranteed strategy using a perfect weapon with perfect means of supply.

you also do not know the context of that image, that could be a quick strike task force that can be deployed anywhere within 48 hours or something. that water crossing supply could be heavily defensed, supported by a variety of vessels that can monitor that flight situation and respond instantly to threats. there could be literally no other way to deploy forces to a particular region other than flying them in like that.

our military prepares and trains for every contigency, having to go to where the hostilities are, wherever they are, is part of that.

Whatever the situation is, unless there is some fucking powershield; it is vulnerable situation, just for accidents if nothing else.

And kudos of having some sort of a attack force that hustles around the world. My country has army for defending our country.

they fight just as much for me as they do for you= not at all :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

you basically, horribly over pay the military, to make new enemies abroad of people who never did shit to the USA...the whole time the USA is in no danger whatsoever and the violence is completely uncalled for, and all other countries, somehow, do not invade like the USA :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

man you have to be a stupid mother fucker to glorify your pimps arsenal :1orglaugh:1orglaugh "look at what I got my pimp so that he can send me to work" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

you are american and I do not expect north koreans and north americans to understand...now go watch them spend your money :thumbsup

hey, thanks!

now back to that BADASS refuel!

first, you simply have to cut back on the smilies. it's too much. really.

next, i'm not glorifying shit. that is a fucking impressive feat of modern technology and i can appreciate it for the complexity and accomplishment. i don't need to include some fucking disclaimer explaining to some fuckwad east eurotard my overall view on war and the cost of military in every fucking thread that has a BADASS picture of military aviation.

Looks like a standard midair refueling. Well, standard for the US.

I'd be surpised if they weren't doing stuff like that.


And the only thing "just because" about this particular shot would be if it was a training exercise. But if it's a shot of actual deployment going on then there is no "just cuz" about it.


Nice to see Crucifissio in here singing his same old song. He's still peeved over the fact that the USA, NATO, the UN, UK, Canada, and basically the entire rest of the world had something to say about his country's desire to turn their neighboring province's cities and towns to ash. I mean really, what nerve. The US are such bullies! Can't even let your army go out and rape ten or twenty thousand women without them sticking their nose in where it doesn't belong.

Now prepare yourselves for the crucifissio patented flying laughing smiley attack ==> :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

For only he knows the truth of everything. The rest of us are all CNN brainwashed. No chance in hell that he's swallowed the Milosevic coolaid. Uh uh, no way. He's like the Serb version of Homer Simpson staying home on a Sunday while his family is at church, saying "Everyone in the world is stupid except me".

All hail Homer Crucifissio.

There is a difference of over 80,000 pounds between a M1A2 Abrams tank and a M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicle. And all armored vehicles are not tanks.

Weren't you in the Marines? Don't you know anything?

what exactly is impressive about it? you have 50million poor people in your country and you use money to build bigger and better machines of terrorism whilst 3rd world shit holes out-rank you in almost everything, except terrorism you are truly the #1 there no contest...

I fail to see what your corporate pimps toys have to do with you? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

"almost everything" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh Keep it up shitstain.

and we all see that.

I would too if i was them... i cant even drive a hummer. im too short to see over the steeringwheel

Says the Serb.... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh don't you have a neighbor to genocide or a group rape to attend?

I remember when they were released to the civilian world, everyone was like "huh?". For us they were like beat up pick up trucks.