Poll: Can We All Agree That The Climate Is Changing?..
 

Politics and blame aside can we agree on that?..

Should we at least try and do something about it?....

We can agree but I would disagree with that agreement.

Slightly warmer air and extra water aint gonna hurt nothin. Isn't this the very thing we have air conditioning for? We're getting ready to move to mars anyway.

Could it be you were drunk when you flew from UK to Spain last month?
And now ranting about Climate Change but infact it's nothing but a Continent Change?
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I would love to be on my own on the surface of Mars - The only opinion that mattered would be mine...

Don't like it - Tell it to my face bitch.....

Sheesh that's very harsh. Why are you so angry? :Oh crap

Me, drunk?..

Bloody nerve.....

I was imagining I was on Mars...

Shit, I think I should go to bed.....

What about all the news about tampering with the read outs lately in the news?

Stop trying to freak me out:upsidedow...

It is obvious that the climate has changed. Anyone with any reasonable amount of intelligence can see that. All you need to do is see how the polar ice caps have melted.

The question is whether or not we as human beings and what we are doing is having any affect on the climate.

Personally, I don't know if we are or not. There isn't enough data to know for sure and likely won't be for another 100+ years. However, it seems reasonable to assume we are and I think we have nothing to lose in lowering pollution and trying to take better care of the Earth.

What Kane said - Thanks Kane...

The aliens are going to come when you do.

All off them? - Shit, it's a bit late for a party...

Just the hot ones :banana

The native martians are horny opinionated buggers.

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Not really in my local climate. Globally, maybe.

We may be fixating on a cycle and not a trend -- and that is the problem.

Economically responsible and moderate solutions are wise -- radical economic dislocation is foolish. The problem is every dirt farmer in the third world wants a car and consumers in developed nations are wasteful or non-adaptive to new green technologies. So in the long term: economically positive change and lower in carbon footprint -- the best of two worlds.

The ''fix'' is in a 30 year pattern of change ...

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Sounds about right to me - I'm not sure about 30 years - Why not forever?..

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We teach this shit in grade school. We are in fact in an ice age, and we are slowly coming out of it. We've been in an ice age for 2.6 million years. It's going to get warmer. You can argue, debate, and try to place blame, but at the end of the day it's going to happen no matter if we ever discovered fossil fuel or not.

Can we fix it or change it? Most likely not. Mankind if capable of great things, but I don't see us being to force this kind of massive change.

The question is how are future generations going to deal with this?

Wondering about the climate avoids action. Give a hoot, don't FUCKING pollute!!1

Maybe I'm just like my father, he was always too bold.
Maybe I'm just like my mother, she was never satisfied.

When doves cry.

That is in my top 5 songs - How did you know that?..

Should I be scared?....

finally a poll result that won't maker me close browser and scream 'motherfucking retards!!' :pimp

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Yeeeeaaah, baby!

Haha! Fuck yeah! Haaaaaaaaaa!

OF COURSE IT'S CHANGING.... IT'S ALWAYS BEEN CHANGING.

We had better just adapt, because we aren't going to stop it from changing.


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The answer is to live it up!

Also start building new nuclear power plants to provide energy for climate controlled buildings and desalination plants.

Now is not the time for the curtailment of industrial production.

For anyone who is interested in a logical point of view from an economics standpoint....



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its hard to tell. we dont have nearly enough data. if you study the almanac you can see they had weather like in the 1800's. droughts heavy rain in some areas etc...

Meanwhile, the simple solution is to reduce fossil fuel use by 90%, and get our fuel from energy crops, just as the world had always done until the late 1800s. Henry Ford never intended his cars to run on petroleum. He stated that one acre of hemp could produce enough fuel to power a machine for 100 years.

Grow energy crops on a large scale and they would breathe in CO2 and reverse the greenhouse effect. Simple once you remove the greedy politicians from the equation.

Of course it is changing. It has never not been changing. Using the term "climate change" to frame this entire debate is misleading and deceptive because it attempts to trick the ignorant masses into believing that the climate has never changed before and that change is necessarily bad. This plays heavily into people's false beliefs that "things have always been this way" and their desire to have things stay the same as they were when they grew up.

Most people have now been trained to think climate change = bad without stopping to ask if the climate is changing into something unprecedented or if it is simply changing back to something we have seen before.

I saw a thing on TV the other night about archeologists in Norway recovering artifacts, that are thousands of years old, from under melted glaciers . That would seem to suggest that there were no glaciers there when the items were deposited.

The video segment is here: Video - Watch Full Episodes Online | Discovery

It should be quite obvious to anyone that climate change buried those artifacts and now climate change is revealing them.


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Drive electric. Use less Fossil fuels. Vote for politicians that make big oil pay for their pollution and help companies and individuals go green. Invest in green energy alternatives. Change your light bulbs from the old style filament-based bulbs to modern LED lights. Buy energy efficient appliances. Ease up on your home heating and cooling. Buy foods grown locally instead of those grown in other countries (less pollution due to transportation). Drink filtered tap water instead of bottled water. Turn off your computer at night. Etc etc.

It might be too late already but I prefer to think that its not.

I thought that we all already agree that climate is changing. It is the human's impact that is debated. Unless it is about new iPhone that is designed by brilliant Merican/ Indian engineers.

I think you're talking to yourself. You sound like a walking billboard for Big Green. :2 cents:



Agreed. But also up for debate is the degree of change, the impact of change and the feasibility of spending trillions trying to stop the change. Why are humans trying to "stop" a natural process to begin with? It's like trying to stop the seasons or tides or something.


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It's constantly changing during about 4.5 milliards of years :)

climate change is the natural way of life Eddie.... the climate has been changing for millions of years.... geezzz.. climate change was the cause of the 'French Revolution' and the reason for the invention of the fireplace which was one of the main factors in the separation of the classes.... for the first time 'royalty' lived is separate areas instead of a large communal areas... maybe we can do something to help 'ourselves adjust' I really don't think al gore and ben afflack are the answer though :2 cents:

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its not too late. cause there is no crisis coming. see kids, the earth is 4 billion years old. been covered in lava, been covered in ice. today we know, thanks to charles, that biological organisms adapt to their climate.

yes, people adapt. someday, when the climate is 20 degrees hotter, & hotties are wearing even less than short shorts, youngsters on GFY will crack a beer & celebrate climate change.

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I answered "Changing, deal with it" because I live in Canada...

This is an outstanding piece that very kindly does not critique the science behind all of this. Climate change science has always struck me as the ultimate example of the very policy/science hubris that was condemned by F.A. Hayek, a presumption of knowledge in the extreme, an opportunity for intellectuals to play as if they are planners of both the world economy and the global climate. It's preposterous. Something tells me that in 20 years time, we are all going to look back at the current hysteria and laugh at its absurdities, same as we laugh at 1970s end-of-the-world manias.

Of course its changing, it has been changing since the earth was formed and it will continue to change.

The real question is how much of an effect humans are having on this change.

Everyone wants to break it down to carbon footprints, cow farts, fossil fuels or whatever but they dont want to confront the REAL issue which is population.

No matter what you attribute the changes to from fossil fuels to farts the more people on earth the more effect we have on the change.

Americans totally castigated the Chinese for their one child policy but it's in all of our futures unless some plague comes along to drastically reduce the people on earth.

We make medical advances that could see us living well past 100 or even 200 potentially with no real thought about the absurd idea that anyone should be able to drop kids anytime and as many as they want. Many times these children are paid for by society, that shit is gonna have to change before any of these issues will have any real shot at being resolved.

I agree with this. Why would the climate not change?

Still seems like we think we're the center of the universe. Or at least it's promoted that way.

omg! We're all going to die! Maybe Al Gore will give us a free ride on his carbon credit jet to another planet? I bet his jet's bumper sticker reads "Eat my carbon, suckers!"

Mankind is doomed to cause its own extinction. It is the next step in our evolution on this planet.

We will have fulfilled our part and our niche will become empty and free up a whole lotta space for other species to evolve without us hogging all of the resources!

I say the sooner we are gone the better! :thumbsup

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Better answer Yes it is changing because it never has been the same.

You could start the trend by offing yourself.

Yep, the climate has been "changing" for 4.5 billion years on Earth. And it will continue to change into infinity. There is no "normal". It is ever-changing.

And I'd love to know how we are supposed to "fix" it. :)
1st off you can't "fix" what isn't "broken".
And second...mankind doesn't have the ability to change it to what we want it to be no matter what. If we could...we would.

Time for the scientific community to hire a marketing/communications team. After reading through the responses, it becomes apparent pretty quickly how little the average joe understands about the subject of climate change.

no, actually alarmists should just shut the fuck up with your elitist finger-pointing bullshit combined with your thinking you actually understand global warming.

gofuckyourself. you are not the solution. you are not a unique snowflake. you are the problem.

Just down the road from where I live, the Wisconsin Glacier stopped advancing about 30,000 years ago. It left behind an escarpment that gradually became Niagara Falls. There's a place along the Niagara River near Brock's Monument at Queenston where you can actually see where the glacier stopped, began receding and formed the original Niagara Falls (it's several miles from where the present-day falls is located). I do a lot of photography in the area and know it well.

30,000 years ago - man had no impact on the stoppage of the Wisconsin Glacier. It was all a part of a natural cycle.

And that's how I tend to regard all the hype and hyperbole about global warming alarmists.

Can we take steps to cut back on pollution to improve the planet? Sure...I'm all for it. But I don't believe for one second that man's influence on the environment is significant enough to trigger global warming. I tend to think the people pushing the panic button have either a vested interest in heightening people's fear...or using it as a diversionary tactic with another agenda in mind.

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