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Paul&John 04-24-2015 01:05 AM

TIME: Vaccines Don?t Cause Autism, Even in Kids at Higher Risk
 
The study was working on a pretty large sample (95k+ children)

Vaccines Don?t Cause Autism, Even Among Kids at Higher Risk
study: JAMA Network | JAMA | Autism Occurrence by MMR Vaccine Status Among US Children With Older Siblings With and Without Autism

ReggieDurango 04-24-2015 02:11 AM

Vaccines are good

nico-t 04-24-2015 03:16 AM

Too much money goes on in that industry to trust any study.

Just like radiation from cell phone towers etc. For every 100 studies saying it's harmful for humans, there are 100 studies saying it's not harmful. Dig deep into the latter and you'll always find a company behind it that gains from the towers financially (e.g. phone providers,governments, etc).

Paul&John 04-24-2015 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20457315)
For every 100 studies saying it's harmful for humans, there are 100 studies saying it's not harmful.

Except with the vaccines vs autism situation there are no studies which say those are linked.. actually there was one which was then pulled back because of manipulation and the sample consisted only from 12 children.

VikingMan 04-24-2015 04:14 AM

Have fun with your vaccine damaged kids you fucking degenerate zombies.:321GFY While your at it make sure you feed them extra pesticide laden food. Everyone knows that Round Up is a nutrient just like fluoride as well as all the toxic shit that is included with so many vaccines. Fucking kid next door has brain cancer, kids all over the place have autism, and I see way way way more kids messed up in various ways than when I was a kid.

crockett 04-24-2015 09:07 AM

The more you prove there is no link, the more the anti vaxers believe it's a conspiracy.

It's the same with conspiracy theorist and people whom don't believe global warming exist. The more you disprove their beliefs the more they double down on their mis information.

They have done studies on this kind of thing and in almost all cases these kind of people never change their thoughts on a subject they just become more and more convenced they are right.

PR_Glen 04-24-2015 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VikingMan (Post 20457347)
Have fun with your vaccine damaged kids you fucking degenerate zombies.:321GFY While your at it make sure you feed them extra pesticide laden food. Everyone knows that Round Up is a nutrient just like fluoride as well as all the toxic shit that is included with so many vaccines. Fucking kid next door has brain cancer, kids all over the place have autism, and I see way way way more kids messed up in various ways than when I was a kid.

there is far more evidence linking obesity in parents to any of those things, but nobody wants to stop stuffing their faces.. keep shovelling down that sugar though and blaming vaccines. your anger, it's hilarious.

Sly 04-24-2015 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VikingMan (Post 20457347)
Have fun with your vaccine damaged kids you fucking degenerate zombies.:321GFY While your at it make sure you feed them extra pesticide laden food. Everyone knows that Round Up is a nutrient just like fluoride as well as all the toxic shit that is included with so many vaccines. Fucking kid next door has brain cancer, kids all over the place have autism, and I see way way way more kids messed up in various ways than when I was a kid.

When we can't explain something, we blame aliens, not vaccines.

http://www.troll.me/images/ancient-a...st-be-real.jpg

This is how the myth of unicorns came about. Nobody could explain properly that they were looking at a fucking rhinoceros, therefore: unicorn!

2MuchMark 04-24-2015 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VikingMan (Post 20457347)
Have fun with your vaccine damaged kids you fucking degenerate zombies.:321GFY While your at it make sure you feed them extra pesticide laden food. Everyone knows that Round Up is a nutrient just like fluoride as well as all the toxic shit that is included with so many vaccines. Fucking kid next door has brain cancer, kids all over the place have autism, and I see way way way more kids messed up in various ways than when I was a kid.

Maybe, but its not due to Vaccines.


Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20457535)
there is far more evidence linking obesity in parents to any of those things, but nobody wants to stop stuffing their faces.. keep shovelling down that sugar though and blaming vaccines. your anger, it's hilarious.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

DAMNMAN 04-24-2015 11:17 AM

I have no problems with vaccines. I got all of mine growing up and feel that they are of great benefit to society.
Unfortunately greed has reared it's ugly head and U.S. government/ corporate corruption is getting paid off heavily.
Don't trust the new model in which vaccines are created as cheaply as possible for profit at the expense of quality.

I believe that the MMR vaccine from a few years back may have been the cause of autism, I don't believe the false studies and the way that they are done by the corporations themselves. Vaccines are good, but not the ones created half assed due to CORRUPTION!!!!!

wehateporn 04-24-2015 11:42 AM

From a quick scan there are 3 problems which jump straight out

1. They look for all forms of Autism including genetic, rather than just Regressive Autism (i.e. Vaccine Autism), thereby diluting the association.

2. They assume that MMR is the only vaccine associated with Autism; just because a child skipped MMR doesn't mean they skipped the other 50 jabs. Those who are at most risk will almost certainly go Autistic after the other jabs even if they skip MMR.

3. Craig J. Newschaffer from the A. J. Drexel Autism Institute

VikingMan 04-24-2015 02:39 PM

Snicker all you want guys but if I took the same toxic garbage and put it into your food I would be arrested and imprisoned for a very long time.

The Porn Nerd 04-24-2015 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20457315)
Too much money goes on in that industry to trust any study.

Just like radiation from cell phone towers etc. For every 100 studies saying it's harmful for humans, there are 100 studies saying it's not harmful. Dig deep into the latter and you'll always find a company behind it that gains from the towers financially (e.g. phone providers,governments, etc).

BAM!! Winner.

Vaccines are produced by....class? Large pharmaceutical companies correct!! The same companies that endlessly advertise all those drugs on TV with those endless nasty side effects. So combine that with the 'journalism' these days and we get....total bullshit.

Yeah, I trust this (not).

Jel 04-24-2015 03:04 PM

you can't just use 'one side profits' as an argument... that means literally jack shit. *someone* profits out of pretty much everything there is, so if a bunch of kooks decide using a keyboard causes cancer, and a bunch of stuff is published saying 'keyboards cause cancer', then the manufacturers respond with 'we did studies, no they don't', how in hell is 'ah, but look who profits by saying keyboards don't cause cancer - the keyboard manufacturers!' any kind of logical argument?

wehateporn 04-24-2015 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20457535)
there is far more evidence linking obesity in parents to any of those things, but nobody wants to stop stuffing their faces.. keep shovelling down that sugar though and blaming vaccines. your anger, it's hilarious.

30 Scientific Studies Showing the Link between Vaccines and Autism

30 Scientific Studies Showing the Link between Vaccines and Autism

wehateporn 04-24-2015 03:29 PM

Vaccines cause autism, says confidential document from corrupt drug company

Vaccines cause autism, says confidential document from corrupt drug company - NaturalNews.com

MiamiBoyz 04-24-2015 04:19 PM

In other news...

Radiation doesn't cause cancer.

Smoking proven beneficial on many levels and driving drunk actually decreases the likelihood of an accident.

Oh and UFOs are actually angels.

OneHungLo 04-24-2015 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20457825)
30 Scientific Studies Showing the Link between Vaccines and Autism

30 Scientific Studies Showing the Link between Vaccines and Autism

And look at all the shit they are pumping on that site....as you've said yourself - follow the money!

OneHungLo 04-24-2015 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20457832)
Vaccines cause autism, says confidential document from corrupt drug company

Vaccines cause autism, says confidential document from corrupt drug company - NaturalNews.com

store.naturalnews.com - Again - follow the money!

Far-L 04-24-2015 09:30 PM

ummmm....

Vaccines use mercury as a preservative and no one is willing to wonder if there is a connection?

TIME has been a shill for all sort of corporate and government entities like the CIA and Monsanto etc. for years, going all the way back to when it made Hitler man of the year.

Relentless 04-24-2015 09:37 PM

Vaccinate or Sterilize.

If they gave those as the only two options we wouldn't be facing the postpect of a smallpox outbreak past one generation.

oppoten 04-24-2015 09:45 PM

The vaccine theory does not seem compatible with what autism actually is.

I think it's an in utero thing. Some lack of bonding with the mother.

wehateporn 04-25-2015 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 20457963)
And look at all the shit they are pumping on that site....as you've said yourself - follow the money!

Read the studies they posted, the studies have not been funded by the website

wehateporn 04-25-2015 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 20457964)
store.naturalnews.com - Again - follow the money!

Natural News have provided their sources, just the messenger

wehateporn 04-25-2015 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 20458064)
TIME has been a shill for all sort of corporate and government entities like the CIA and Monsanto etc. for years, going all the way back to when it made Hitler man of the year.

True, TIME aren't suddenly going to switch sides and start working for the people

wehateporn 04-25-2015 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20458065)
Vaccinate or Sterilize.

If they gave those as the only two options we wouldn't be facing the postpect of a smallpox outbreak past one generation.

Vaccines often do sterilize, so the pro-vaccine people will be gradually removed from the genepool.

Who is going to deliberately release Small Pox?

wehateporn 04-25-2015 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oppoten (Post 20458071)
The vaccine theory does not seem compatible with what autism actually is.

I think it's an in utero thing. Some lack of bonding with the mother.

The vaccine link is only relevant to one part of the spectrum, it's the type where the child regresses into Autism post-vaccine, this is due to vaccine-induced autoimmune disease in the gut which prevents the brain from being properly nourished, though it can be improved dramatically by going on a Casein diet.

Paul&John 04-25-2015 09:33 AM

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PornoMonster 04-25-2015 09:54 AM

So, Every Kids got the MMR in 70's 80's 90's 2000's

But Autism has only risen in the later of the years....

What else has gone up every 10 years????

Fake foods, Fast foods, ETC. Kids eating more and more every day, lazy parents.
I took a loaf of bread, put it in the garage a couple of years ago... It barely has any mold, it shrank a little and is hard as a brick, but still there.....

wehateporn 04-25-2015 10:08 AM

This is not about MMR, it's about every vaccine which contains aborted fetal tissue

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 20458394)
So, Every Kids got the MMR in 70's 80's 90's 2000's

But Autism has only risen in the later of the years....

What else has gone up every 10 years????

Fake foods, Fast foods, ETC. Kids eating more and more every day, lazy parents.
I took a loaf of bread, put it in the garage a couple of years ago... It barely has any mold, it shrank a little and is hard as a brick, but still there.....


wehateporn 04-25-2015 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul&John (Post 20458375)

Live vaccines which cause the recipient to shed the disease are being used for all three of those, so it's not anti-vaxxers who are keeping them alive. However, I would be a lot more concerned about picking up lifelong Diabetes Type 1 or MS from a vaccine than about the risk of someone getting spots from Measles for 1 week. :2 cents:

crockett 04-25-2015 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 20458394)
So, Every Kids got the MMR in 70's 80's 90's 2000's

But Autism has only risen in the later of the years....

What else has gone up every 10 years????

Fake foods, Fast foods, ETC. Kids eating more and more every day, lazy parents.
I took a loaf of bread, put it in the garage a couple of years ago... It barely has any mold, it shrank a little and is hard as a brick, but still there.....

This is what I say it is.. it's damn sure not vaccines, it's all the shit which people shovel in their mouths these days. Look at all the steroids live stock is injected with and all the processed foods everyone eats. Not to mention every asshole and his bother drinks energy drinks like they were koolaide..

There wasn't all this shitty food even just 30 years ago. Fast food wasn't a main course 30 years ago it was an occasional thing..

TheSquealer 04-25-2015 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oppoten (Post 20458071)
The vaccine theory does not seem compatible with what autism actually is.

I think it's an in utero thing. Some lack of bonding with the mother.

severe brain impairment caused by the mother not bonding with a fetus. you must be a phd in neuroscience.

wehateporn 04-26-2015 03:02 AM


MrGusMuller 04-26-2015 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20457315)
Too much money goes on in that industry to trust any study.

Just like radiation from cell phone towers etc. For every 100 studies saying it's harmful for humans, there are 100 studies saying it's not harmful. Dig deep into the latter and you'll always find a company behind it that gains from the towers financially (e.g. phone providers,governments, etc).

:thumbsup

Monsanto supporter refuses to drink weed killer - Fortune



ITraffic 04-26-2015 05:36 AM

people should really be questioning why all forms of human behavior and action are being pathologized and why they are accepting of this. what is the root that wants to turn every sphere of human life into a sickness?

discovering why that is in your mind an the mind of society is much harder than posting linksfrom natural news or a daily show clip. it will take some honest introspection.

that means you all will just keep posting crap from the internet and debate that crap like it will really solve and change anything : )

arock10 04-26-2015 06:07 AM

Wehateporn jerked off at least 20 times to this thread

wehateporn 04-27-2015 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 20458899)
Wehateporn jerked off at least 20 times to this thread

It is good when we see that more GFYers have worked this scam out :thumbsup

seeandsee 04-27-2015 03:11 AM

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OneHungLo 04-27-2015 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 20458064)
ummmm....

Vaccines use mercury as a preservative and no one is willing to wonder if there is a connection?

TIME has been a shill for all sort of corporate and government entities like the CIA and Monsanto etc. for years, going all the way back to when it made Hitler man of the year.

So what? Are you saying the study conducted by the The Journal of the American Medical Association is bogus?

wehateporn 04-27-2015 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 20459914)
So what? Are you saying the study conducted by the The Journal of the American Medical Association is bogus?

Not bogus, just smoke and mirrors, look carefully at the study then notice the difference with the headlines

OneHungLo 04-27-2015 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20459981)
Not bogus, just smoke and mirrors, look carefully at the study then notice the difference with the headlines

Ok, because they didn't specify the mmr vaccine? is that what you have a problem with?

"These findings indicate no harmful association between MMR vaccine receipt and ASD even among children already at higher risk for ASD."

95,000 children studied. what's your take on that? so jama is now a bunch of paid shills working for the government and pharmaceutical companies?

OneHungLo 04-27-2015 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20457825)
30 Scientific Studies Showing the Link between Vaccines and Autism

30 Scientific Studies Showing the Link between Vaccines and Autism

Anything there peer-reviewed? :)

wehateporn 04-28-2015 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 20460259)
Ok, because they didn't specify the mmr vaccine? is that what you have a problem with?

"These findings indicate no harmful association between MMR vaccine receipt and ASD even among children already at higher risk for ASD."

95,000 children studied. what's your take on that? so jama is now a bunch of paid shills working for the government and pharmaceutical companies?

Just because a child skips the MMR doesn't mean they don't get another 50 jabs which can also cause them to regress into Autism, hence the study is pointless. It is like pretending that only one make of gun can kill.

wehateporn 04-28-2015 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 20460265)
Anything there peer-reviewed? :)

At least 90 published peer-reviewed studies already condemn Thimerosal

Evidence for Thimerosal Risk - Page 1 | Vaccination News

Evidence for Thimerosal Risk - Page 2 | Vaccination News

nikki99 04-28-2015 01:15 PM

jenny mccarthy īs research gone :(

OneHungLo 04-28-2015 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20460819)

No I'm talking about a link between autism and the mmr vaccination.

Will you ever admit that there's a pretty good chance that there is no link at least between mmr and autism?

Rochard 04-28-2015 06:08 PM

There is zero proof vaccines cause any problems.

ManPuppy 04-29-2015 04:56 AM

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nikki99 04-29-2015 10:28 AM

50 vaccines


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