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The Porn Nerd 05-03-2015 01:53 PM

Can You Make $$$ Selling E-Books?
 
Does anyone have any experience selling e-books? Not writing them per se but as an affiliate. Would be interesting to setup a site where all you sold were e-books.

Anyone? :pimp

armysmoke 05-03-2015 02:11 PM

There are lots of people making money selling ebook and selling them as affiliates. Check out warriorforum.com

Adraco 05-03-2015 02:17 PM

I sold ebooks on Digital Point before. It was generally just a pdf file of 1-3 pages. It was some information on how to this or how to that. People bought quite a bit, as long as I kept prices at $4.95-$19.95.

Still amazed that people paid that just for some information. But most were really happy and bought again when I did new relises. Paypal payment works great for those!

crockett 05-03-2015 03:03 PM

I think anyone smart has moved on to selling on Amazon and not so much run of the mill old school ebooks. :2 cents:

Alice22 05-03-2015 04:31 PM

Yea, there is a big market for those.
Check ClickBank | A Global Internet Retailer
They sells HUGE numbers, and you can be an affiliate, many products to chose from.

Sly 05-03-2015 04:39 PM

I buy "ebooks" quite a bit. If I can spend $5 and get one halfway decent idea, it was 500 worthy pennies.

The Porn Nerd 05-03-2015 06:45 PM

Interesting, thanks all!!

I'm thinking of re-launching my old Blog The Daily Spank and don't want to load it up with porn links. LOL But I also don't want to rant for free so ebooks might be the way to go.

Selling via Amazon Crockett? I know there are people who make a living doing this but that's a whole different business model, yes? As in, you gotta basically lick Amazon's bung hole for 2%? LOL

ITraffic 05-03-2015 06:49 PM

amazon affiliates for books is a joke. find another angle.

kane 05-03-2015 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20465874)
Interesting, thanks all!!

I'm thinking of re-launching my old Blog The Daily Spank and don't want to load it up with porn links. LOL But I also don't want to rant for free so ebooks might be the way to go.

Selling via Amazon Crockett? I know there are people who make a living doing this but that's a whole different business model, yes? As in, you gotta basically lick Amazon's bung hole for 2%? LOL

It depends on what you do. If you are just an Amazon affiliate you only get a small percentage of the price of the item as a commission. However, if you write your own ebooks you can sell them on Amazon and make a hell of a lot more.

I have a string of erotic stories I will be starting to sell on Amazon in the near future. It will be interesting to see how they do.

crockett 05-03-2015 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 20465878)
It depends on what you do. If you are just an Amazon affiliate you only get a small percentage of the price of the item as a commission. However, if you write your own ebooks you can sell them on Amazon and make a hell of a lot more.

I have a string of erotic stories I will be starting to sell on Amazon in the near future. It will be interesting to see how they do.

This.. Not being an affiliate but rather selling your books there.. They have the biggest customer base online to sell books to.. Pick a popular topic and gain a following. Don't write a novel.. Write quick easy stuff and churn it out.

ITraffic 05-03-2015 07:15 PM

or outsource the writing to local students or broke artists, writers and academics.

Barefootsies 05-03-2015 07:47 PM

Write ebook(s).

Develop newsletter via targeted marketing leads.

Send email on regular basis sending to nice landing page.

Cha-ching.

:pimp

Tasty1 05-03-2015 08:38 PM

I know a few people who sell kindle books. A lot of times they hire people from India and give them the concept they work out further Mostly books about diet (paleo etcetra). Also hire people for the logo's and make it kindle ready. Or a book like "50 different smoothies'. You can make money if you target at the righ audience. There are several kindle facebook groups for more info.

In Holland you also have an affiliate program where you can publish your books and where affiliates can promote them.

Drake 05-03-2015 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20465805)
I buy "ebooks" quite a bit. If I can spend $5 and get one halfway decent idea, it was 500 worthy pennies.

Good way to look at it.

Bladewire 05-03-2015 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ITraffic (Post 20465877)
amazon affiliates for books is a joke. find another angle.

^ That :thumbsup

adamneve 05-03-2015 11:46 PM

i know someone that "writes" books about the bible(sells on amazon). He has a few writers from India(non know about hte other) ,each gets a different topic & once all done he combines it into one book.
then "wrap" it up nicely and he is making a killing

Bladewire 05-04-2015 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by adamneve (Post 20465964)
i know someone that "writes" books about the bible(sells on amazon). He has a few writers from India(non know about hte other) ,each gets a different topic & once all done he combines it into one book.
then "wrap" it up nicely and he is making a killing

I would love to have a couple good people from India on my team. They are a good country and hard working people. Not so cheap anymore, but you get good quality work from them from what I hear. I'd give them a shot any day :thumbsup

AmeliaG 05-04-2015 02:32 AM

Kinda chump change, compared to other affiliate options and, in my experience (and documented by many others all over the net), ClickBank are terrible payers.

aka123 05-04-2015 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20465888)
This.. Not being an affiliate but rather selling your books there.. They have the biggest customer base online to sell books to.. Pick a popular topic and gain a following. Don't write a novel.. Write quick easy stuff and churn it out.

But those are still e-books, just sold in Amazon. But great idea anyhow. I have thought of writing e-books, maybe I write some and try that Amazon stuff.

That e-mail list thing is also great; I have been selling and buying stuff like that. The buying part has been e-books. I suppose Amazon doesn't mind about me directing traffic to own book page at there? If I combine the easiness of Amazon and the benefits of email marketing.

mopek1 05-04-2015 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 20466015)
Kinda chump change, compared to other affiliate options and, in my experience (and documented by many others all over the net), ClickBank are terrible payers.

What do you mean by "Terrible Payers" ?

Sid70 05-04-2015 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 20465902)
Write ebook(s).

Develop newsletter via targeted marketing leads.

Send email on regular basis sending to nice landing page.

Cha-ching.

:pimp

Sounds doable.

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Barefootsies 05-04-2015 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 20466015)
Kinda chump change, compared to other affiliate options and, in my experience (and documented by many others all over the net), ClickBank are terrible payers.

Depends on how you do the ebooks and if you find one that strikes a cord. If you can send out millions of emails per day, you can turn a decent dollar as long as it's converting. You have a number of ways to get many different mailers sending it, then you can bank nicely.

Yes, Clickbank is difficult to deal with compared to many other options. They do seem to be one of the better networks for ebooks in mainstream, but the payments issue (especially for email based) is tricky. I would only push them if their stuff seriously converted like hotcakes. I am not waiting net30 or net90 to get paid.

Barefootsies 05-04-2015 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20466024)
That e-mail list thing is also great; I have been selling and buying stuff like that. The buying part has been e-books. I suppose Amazon doesn't mind about me directing traffic to own book page at there? If I combine the easiness of Amazon and the benefits of email marketing.

As long as they allow email marketing, you should be good. Main issue there is just making sure you have full opt-in info and are CAN-SPAM compliant.

ZeroHero 05-04-2015 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 20465902)
Write ebook(s).

Develop newsletter via targeted marketing leads.

Send email on regular basis sending to nice landing page.

Cha-ching.

:pimp

:2 cents::thumbsup

MakeMeGrrrrowl 05-04-2015 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 20466072)

I don't know why, but I could watch this all day. How freeking cute. :1orglaugh

The Porn Nerd 05-04-2015 12:31 PM

Thanks for all the great advice!
Being a natural writer and not doing anything with writing or e-books is starting to annoy me. LOL

I will try some of the strategies over the Summer and report back in the Fall and see how it goes. :)

johnnyloadproductions 05-04-2015 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20466585)
Thanks for all the great advice!
Being a natural writer and not doing anything with writing or e-books is starting to annoy me. LOL

I will try some of the strategies over the Summer and report back in the Fall and see how it goes. :)

Being a journalist, what will you write about?

The Porn Nerd 05-04-2015 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 20466666)
Being a journalist, what will you write about?

Actually several topics, thanks for asking. LOL

Entrepeneurship (which I hope I spelled right....)
Grammar (joking)
Music
Drugs
Travel
Sex

But not in that order....:)

johnnyloadproductions 05-04-2015 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20466669)
Actually several topics, thanks for asking. LOL

Entrepeneurship (which I hope I spelled right....)
Grammar (joking)
Music
Drugs
Travel
Sex

But not in that order....:)

Considering your previous career it's just a matter of rehashing from memory, shouldn't be too hard.

The Porn Nerd 05-04-2015 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 20466671)
Considering your previous career it's just a matter of rehashing from memory, shouldn't be too hard.

Indeed! And since most of the rock stars I interviewed are either too old to remember or dead I can basically say whatever I want about The Black Crowes or David Bowie. LOL

...actually I always wanted to write a Porn Nerd 'How To' ebook. You know, how I went from a zero to a hero and fucked all these girls. I mean, how DID I do it? LOL

Kind of like this:

Porn Nerd Network - About Porn Nerd Network

But seriously, a clever 'How To Date Online' or 'How To Navigate Online Profiles' for dating sites might be fun. Of course, there's probably a million ebooks on every single subject but I never let shit like that stop me. :)

johnnyloadproductions 05-04-2015 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20466672)
...actually I always wanted to write a Porn Nerd 'How To' ebook. You know, how I went from a zero to a hero and fucked all these girls. I mean, how DID I do it? LOL

I demand review copies! :)

johnnyloadproductions 05-04-2015 02:47 PM

Anyway, I suggest you write about going from zero to hero and allude to your more mature age. There are plenty of people who are older who still have strong desires to make something of themselves financially or who had the rug pulled out from under them.

Market hard to those people.

The Porn Nerd 05-04-2015 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 20466684)
Anyway, I suggest you write about going from zero to hero and allude to your more mature age. There are plenty of people who are older who still have strong desires to make something of themselves financially or who had the rug pulled out from under them.

Market hard to those people.

Actually a brilliant idea. :) PLUS they are the only fuckers with money anymore. LOL

aka123 05-05-2015 06:12 AM

Okay; I logged into that Amazon book publishing stuff with my existing affiliate account. It seems that they take quite much. Some fucking delivery fees and such. For smaller purchases you may get just under half from the price and might not even get that. Another bummer is that there seems to be different payout limits for every fucking single amazon marketplace; there was 10 marketplaces or something like that. You soon end up having some 99,99 rupias or whatever in Indian market, 1/16 camel in Somalia, and the only markets you get actually money out are the biggest markets, like US and eurozone.

Sounds just like being affiliate, but you have to write the fucking books. Running solo doesn't seem to be so bad option anymore. Please tell me that the volumes from Amazon makes up all that shit? Especially if you already have company in place and running.

Tasty1 05-05-2015 01:04 PM

The people i know aim at Kindle ebooks at amazon. They promote it by givining it away for free (or big discount) the first week to get reviews. And people in the facebook groups review each others books. So you can imagine the first reviews are Always good :) There are more tricks to get on the front page, what is discussed in those groups. You would be surprised how the books that are the easiest to write make the most money. Like "100 ways to congratulate somebody" or more of those 1 dollar books.

'Real' writers in Holland say there is less and less to earn. I think that could be right, i see a big rise of Dutch ebooks on torrent sites.

The Porn Nerd 05-05-2015 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 20467394)
The people i know aim at Kindle ebooks at amazon. They promote it by givining it away for free (or big discount) the first week to get reviews. And people in the facebook groups review each others books. So you can imagine the first reviews are Always good :) There are more tricks to get on the front page, what is discussed in those groups. You would be surprised how the books that are the easiest to write make the most money. Like "100 ways to congratulate somebody" or more of those 1 dollar books.

'Real' writers in Holland say there is less and less to earn. I think that could be right, i see a big rise of Dutch ebooks on torrent sites.

Interesting! I wonder if that is just in Dutch or ebooks in English written in Holland by Nederlanders who speak English?

And who knew there were 100 ways to congratulate someone? LOL I only know of 38 ways! :)

Panty Snatcher 05-05-2015 03:28 PM

i think ebooks are a race to the bottom

Everyone is trying to sell cheaper than the guy next door.

There is a gazillion books @ .99 and they "could" go for more

Tasty1 05-05-2015 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20467444)
Interesting! I wonder if that is just in Dutch or ebooks in English written in Holland by Nederlanders who speak English?

And who knew there were 100 ways to congratulate someone? LOL I only know of 38 ways! :)

Most aiming at English books. Amazon just started in Holland a few months ago and aren't very popular yet. You also have paypro.nl where people can sell their dutch ebooks and affiliates can promote them.

Most people start with the book asking .99 sent to get reviews and sales so they end up higher in the list. And most books that are written in india have a production cost of 500 - 1500 USD depending on how much you outsource.

I was involved in publishing a book in Holland several years ago. The (paper) book in the bookstore costed 15 euro and the writer only get 1,50 / 2,50 euro for it. I had luck, the Publisher thought we would sell max 5000. So i said than let our % low for the first 5000 and we get an extra % when we sell more as 5000. There where more than 60.000 sold and still counting.... So a 3 euro ebook can give you more profit than the traditional sales in bookstores. I must look up what % amazon wants.

brassmonkey 05-05-2015 08:41 PM

try what i sent you if its porn stuff

The Porn Nerd 05-05-2015 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panty Snatcher (Post 20467507)
i think ebooks are a race to the bottom

Everyone is trying to sell cheaper than the guy next door.

There is a gazillion books @ .99 and they "could" go for more

Yeah but that's what everybody told me about the Adult Biz when I started in '08. LOL


Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 20467630)
Most aiming at English books. Amazon just started in Holland a few months ago and aren't very popular yet. You also have paypro.nl where people can sell their dutch ebooks and affiliates can promote them.

Most people start with the book asking .99 sent to get reviews and sales so they end up higher in the list. And most books that are written in india have a production cost of 500 - 1500 USD depending on how much you outsource.

I was involved in publishing a book in Holland several years ago. The (paper) book in the bookstore costed 15 euro and the writer only get 1,50 / 2,50 euro for it. I had luck, the Publisher thought we would sell max 5000. So i said than let our % low for the first 5000 and we get an extra % when we sell more as 5000. There where more than 60.000 sold and still counting.... So a 3 euro ebook can give you more profit than the traditional sales in bookstores. I must look up what % amazon wants.

Old school publishing is the race to the bottom, I think. I wonder how strong the DMCA laws (or whatever) would be if you started selling ebooks without having written them.....not advocating this, of course, just wondering out loud....LOL

aka123 05-06-2015 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 20467630)
Most people start with the book asking .99 sent to get reviews and sales so they end up higher in the list. And most books that are written in india have a production cost of 500 - 1500 USD depending on how much you outsource.

Book's quality depends heavily on the author/ authors. How good can some Indian sourced book be?

kane 05-06-2015 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1 (Post 20467630)
Most aiming at English books. Amazon just started in Holland a few months ago and aren't very popular yet. You also have paypro.nl where people can sell their dutch ebooks and affiliates can promote them.

Most people start with the book asking .99 sent to get reviews and sales so they end up higher in the list. And most books that are written in india have a production cost of 500 - 1500 USD depending on how much you outsource.

I was involved in publishing a book in Holland several years ago. The (paper) book in the bookstore costed 15 euro and the writer only get 1,50 / 2,50 euro for it. I had luck, the Publisher thought we would sell max 5000. So i said than let our % low for the first 5000 and we get an extra % when we sell more as 5000. There where more than 60.000 sold and still counting.... So a 3 euro ebook can give you more profit than the traditional sales in bookstores. I must look up what % amazon wants.

There also seems to be a magic number for what people will pay for certain books. I was reading an article a little while back where someone selling short stories on Amazon said that if they priced them at .99 cents they got good sales. If they raised the price to $1.49 the sales went down a tiny amount, but the extra money more than made up for it. However, when he put the price at $1.99 the sales dropped dramatically so he went back to the slightly lower price.

aka123 05-06-2015 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 20467760)
There also seems to be a magic number for what people will pay for certain books. I was reading an article a little while back where someone selling short stories on Amazon said that if they priced them at .99 cents they got good sales. If they raised the price to $1.49 the sales went down a tiny amount, but the extra money more than made up for it. However, when he put the price at $1.99 the sales dropped dramatically so he went back to the slightly lower price.

Don't ask about those formulas. But if you know the price elasticity, you can calculate the optimum price what brings the most profit.

Price elasticity of demand - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tasty1 05-06-2015 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20467746)
Book's quality depends heavily on the author/ authors. How good can some Indian sourced book be?

Who cares if you sell bad books, as long as they are selling :)
And with a nice concept you can make money.
There are 1001 different sort of books, you don't have to write a thriller.
Get recipes from internet and start selling cook books.

Tasty1 05-06-2015 11:14 AM

Ps, in Holland a second hand ebook website started. First the Judge said it was forbidden. But the higher Judge said it wasn't forbidden. And now a Judge site it isn't forbidden, but you must make sure the ebooks aren't illegal. That has to do with the Usedsoft-arrest.

This could be interesting. A European Judge said you can resell second hand software, legally so why not second hand ebooks... The site that is doing this is Tom Kabinet You can find reactions from lawyers on the internet. But i think most reactions are in Dutch.

Don't pin me down on the details. Now it is forbidden cause they must have extra checks to make sure they aren't selling illegal ebooks but only ebooks that people realy bought themselves and delete from their computer once it is sold.

Discussion by a well know internet advisor is here:
Tom Kabinet in hoger beroep alsnog verboden - Ius Mentis

The site have to decide if they want to go further proceeding. This all hapening in january 2015 and still no real outcome.


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