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freecartoonporn 05-16-2015 08:10 AM

Does traffic from Pirate sites convert ?
 
hi all.,

my imaginary friend has around $ ??k and he would like to invest in buying traffic from sites like thepiratebay , kickass , isohunt and blah blah.

so he would like to know

Does traffic from Pirate sites convert ? at all ?

whats the ratio can he get if he place banner on pirate site's adult category stuff , redirecting to landing page and then cam site ?

Thanks for your time.,

you can also suggest some other methods , not involving pirate sites .

if you think traffic doesnt convert , then why are they still up ? who is financing them ? and why ?

The Porn Nerd 05-16-2015 08:23 AM

Ironic if it did convert, eh?

Isohunt is gone, so is Pirate Bay. Forget those sites man, conversions suck and why support them?

freecartoonporn 05-16-2015 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20475626)
Ironic if it did convert, eh?

Isohunt is gone, so is Pirate Bay. Forget those sites man, conversions suck and why support them?

i am curious , i want to try , why these sites are always top in serp. so how does their traffic convert with cams ?.

poncabare 05-16-2015 10:57 AM

I've got the traffic you want. Let's talk!

Colmike9 05-16-2015 11:18 AM

If you're doing it for branding.. I wouldn't count on converting any of it, though.

freecartoonporn 05-16-2015 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poncabare (Post 20475701)
I've got the traffic you want. Let's talk!

any contact info ?

poncabare 05-16-2015 10:05 PM

Pm sent freecartoonporn

baggg 05-17-2015 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20475626)

Isohunt is gone, so is Pirate Bay.

Both alive and fine.

btw. someone been buying up the adspots for years,so i guess they do convert

freecartoonporn 05-17-2015 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by baggg (Post 20476071)
Both alive and fine.

btw. someone been buying up the adspots for years,so i guess they do convert

thats what i was thinking , i see they have most installs , so they are promoting some PPI program.

they need to pay for server and other costs , if there are any. so it gotta convert, i just dont know the ratio.

anyways, thanks for your input.

aka123 05-17-2015 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by freecartoonporn (Post 20475629)
i am curious , i want to try , why these sites are always top in serp. so how does their traffic convert with cams ?.

I suppose you meant that your imaginary friend wants to try. :)

I have no experience about pirate site traffic, but the users are for sure very diverse bunch of folks. So, you can probably sell them anything starting from Mercedes-Benz to How to pirate more effectively-eBook. Not to all of them, but since it is diverse group, to some of them.

For example my Somali friend who has been rumored to have been visiting such site, told me that there are for example wide variety of ebooks, those are clearly targeted for folks who make a decent living, more than a decent living. So it is not just hippies living in welfare visiting those sites.

aka123 05-17-2015 03:32 AM

Though, there might be some legal risk in doing business with pirate sites.

adultchatpay 05-17-2015 04:28 AM

They are visiting to those sites because they don't wanna pay.
Free stuff is all they ask.

aka123 05-17-2015 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by adultchatpay (Post 20476133)
They are visiting to those sites because they don't wanna pay.
Free stuff is all they ask.

I don't think that is the whole truth. And anyways, they pay for something, unless they live under a boat.

celandina 05-17-2015 07:53 AM

Low conversion, but high volume its usually better then low volume.. Worked for me, two of my former pirates are now my best affiliates and are only posting approved clips.... Win win for both.

freecartoonporn 05-17-2015 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultchatpay (Post 20476133)
They are visiting to those sites because they don't wanna pay.
Free stuff is all they ask.

Quote:

Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20476137)
I don't think that is the whole truth. And anyways, they pay for something, unless they live under a boat.

i guess ,these are the same people who pays for the cyber locker services., aka file sharing sites to get full length content. so its not like 100% of their traffic is broke and looser.

just gotta sell them right product.

JA$ON 05-17-2015 07:56 AM

as someone who has done VERY large amounts of media buying for over a decade on every possible type of site, my experience is the quality is very low. That is if you are selling adult, dating or cams. I can't speak to games or other products.

freecartoonporn 05-17-2015 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by poncabare (Post 20476043)
Pm sent freecartoonporn

i didnt get any pm, just checked, here on gfy and even on icq.

TheSquealer 05-17-2015 11:59 AM

The traffic quality tends to be lower primarily because it includes a huge number of underage people clicking on ads. Just because someone is "looking for free" doesn't mean they won't pay. Hat idea has always been the mantra of loses in this industry. From the salty days of wares sites to password sites to tubes;, they pay and have always paid. Torrent sites have high volume and price is ALWYS relative to quality so quality is not overly relevant in media buys as costs per clock is always determined by those who convert it and earn the highest earnings per click.

Can it work with cams? Obviously... quite a few cam sites buy torrent traffic. Can you make it work without losing $5,000 or $10,000 before actually figuring it out? Unlikely . Buying traffic is a skill. Like any skill, it takes time to learn. That costs money, time, patience and requires a huge amount of determination and drove to make it work. Qualities and traits 99.9% of jack offs in this industry will never have.

TheSquealer 05-17-2015 12:22 PM

Holy shit... Sent from my phone.... So many typos and auto-correct crap.

poncabare 05-18-2015 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn (Post 20476255)
i didnt get any pm, just checked, here on gfy and even on icq.

Odd, I resent the PM just now though. Lets talk!

freecartoonporn 05-18-2015 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20476365)
The traffic quality tends to be lower primarily because it includes a huge number of underage people clicking on ads. Just because someone is "looking for free" doesn't mean they won't pay. Hat idea has always been the mantra of loses in this industry. From the salty days of wares sites to password sites to tubes;, they pay and have always paid. Torrent sites have high volume and price is ALWYS relative to quality so quality is not overly relevant in media buys as costs per clock is always determined by those who convert it and earn the highest earnings per click.

Can it work with cams? Obviously... quite a few cam sites buy torrent traffic. Can you make it work without losing $5,000 or $10,000 before actually figuring it out? Unlikely . Buying traffic is a skill. Like any skill, it takes time to learn. That costs money, time, patience and requires a huge amount of determination and drove to make it work. Qualities and traits 99.9% of jack offs in this industry will never have.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

thanks for insights man, i really appreciate it.

ownedbox 05-18-2015 09:25 AM

exactly. the people in these torrent sites are looking for free stuff. I'm one of these guys by the way.
so expect nothing.

TheSquealer 05-18-2015 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ownedbox (Post 20477062)
exactly. the people in these torrent sites are looking for free stuff. I'm one of these guys by the way.
so expect nothing.

He said, based basing his statement on absolutely no research or experience at all....

If they've been selling ads for the last 15 years, it's not because the traffic has no value. It would seem that any reasonably intelligent person would immediately grasp that.

aka123 05-18-2015 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ownedbox (Post 20477062)
exactly. the people in these torrent sites are looking for free stuff. I'm one of these guys by the way.
so expect nothing.

Yeah, but you probably won't find free chicken nuggets from there, so for example chicken nugget ad might be well in place.

As well, when I am browsing free news from local newspaper's website, I ain't buing news, but there happens to be a shitload of very expensive ad positions, those advertise all kinds of stuff, but not news (well, the newspaper advertises its own subscription).

wehateporn 05-18-2015 09:38 AM

A wee scurvy pirate once told me that yarr it can convert well but 'tis extra naughty

TheSquealer 05-18-2015 09:39 AM

Commercials on TV are worthless because I'm just there to watch the free show along with every single viewer.

brassmonkey 05-18-2015 09:39 AM

pirates will rob yo ass


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