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SuckOnThis 05-17-2015 01:14 PM

Conservative group Heartland Institute caught lying with George Carlin meme
 
This is what they've been passing around on social media....

http://images.dailykos.com/images/80...png?1398528920


This is what Carlin actually said...


Robbie 05-17-2015 01:41 PM

I don't see what the "Lie" is? The bottom line is Govt. is corrupt and DO want us to be exactly what George Carlin is saying.

Who do you think he's talking about? The Government which does what their financial cronies interest tell them to do.

The "uninformed" are the ones who just read the news and media (which he talks about as well in that clip) and take as gospel the Govt. press releases which are "reported" as fact without any investigative journalism at all.

Our govt. buys and sells itself every day. I've said it over and over...I can't blame a company for trying to buy influence. I blame the bureaucrats in POWER who create the environment where only the govt. can decide the "winners" and "losers" in every industry.
Which of course sets THEM up to reap the rewards from companies trying to get ahead of the competition.

Bottom line is...YES, The govt. does NOT want well informed citizens.
If they did, they would simply INFORM us.
Instead they secretly spy on us, cause wars all over the globe, funnel money to defense contractors like it's nothing as they deficit spend us into oblivion.

onwebcam 05-17-2015 01:43 PM

If you look at the government for what it really is, a corporation, rather than what you are led to believe it to be, then technically they didn't "misquote."

SuckOnThis 05-17-2015 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20476412)
I don't see what the "Lie" is? The bottom line is Govt. is corrupt and DO want us to be exactly what George Carlin is saying.

Who do you think he's talking about? The Government which does what their financial cronies interest tell them to do.

The "uninformed" are the ones who just read the news and media (which he talks about as well in that clip) and take as gospel the Govt. press releases which are "reported" as fact without any investigative journalism at all.

Our govt. buys and sells itself every day. I've said it over and over...I can't blame a company for trying to buy influence. I blame the bureaucrats in POWER who create the environment where only the govt. can decide the "winners" and "losers" in every industry.
Which of course sets THEM up to reap the rewards from companies trying to get ahead of the competition.

Bottom line is...YES, The govt. does NOT want well informed citizens.
If they did, they would simply INFORM us.
Instead they secretly spy on us, cause wars all over the globe, funnel money to defense contractors like it's nothing as they deficit spend us into oblivion.

Its meant to turn people against Govt and favor big business (privatization), the reality is govt is controlled by big business.

TheSquealer 05-17-2015 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20476412)
I don't see what the "Lie" is? .

I guess all you quote something that was said 1000s of times by a guy over a decades long career... then as the "other team" you simply find one of those times when he expressed the sentiment differently, and use that clip to announce the big "lie" of that team.

~Ray 05-17-2015 03:46 PM

seems like the condensed version of the truth. did George complain? or just you and heartland?

SuckOnThis 05-17-2015 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Ray (Post 20476486)
seems like the condensed version of the truth. did George complain? or just you and heartland?

Hard to complain from the grave.

Funny how republicans like to act like Carlin was defending them. :1orglaugh

Robbie 05-17-2015 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20476419)
Its meant to turn people against Govt and favor big business (privatization), the reality is govt is controlled by big business.

I was a George Carlin fan since I saw his first special way back over 30 years ago on HBO.

About 3 years ago they did an entire weekend of George Carlin on one of the comedy channels on Sirius Radio. I was driving to Reno and back and listened to hours of it. His comedy, interviews with him, interviews with his wife and kids, his best friends, his manger, etc.

And from everything I have learned of George Carlin...he was a TRUE liberal. And absolutely did NOT trust the govt.
You know, the way a real liberal should.

It was LIBERALS who protested the Vietnam War and said "don't trust the govt."

And I am in agreement with those REAL liberals. Not the fake ones of today who play "team sports" and think the Democrat Party are their "team".

Nope, they protested Democrat Lyndon Johnson right out of running for another term.
The Democratic Convention in 1968 in Chicago was a shitstorm of liberals protesting it.

And when Nixon came into office, they didn't think twice about going after him too.

Because that's what REAL liberals do. They question authority.

johnny o 05-17-2015 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20476419)
Its meant to turn people against Govt and favor big business (privatization), the reality is govt is controlled by big business.

exactly, you guys are missing the point. OP is spot on.

Robbie 05-17-2015 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnny o (Post 20476653)
exactly, you guys are missing the point. OP is spot on.

Yeah, because George Carlin was a HUGE proponent and fan of authority and the govt. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

_Richard_ 05-18-2015 07:05 AM

i don't see where the lie is.. definitely paraphrased, but message is still the same?

Barry-xlovecam 05-18-2015 07:32 AM

Answer me this: If the USA Government is so smart -- why do they fuck-up 90% of the policies they make further fucking-up most national and world issues they touch?

For example in Today's news:

Quote:

Obama bans some military equipment sales to police
USA TODAY - ‎24 minutes ago‎
WASHINGTON - President Obama has banned the sale of some kinds of military equipment to local law enforcement agencies, following widespread criticism of a paramilitary-like response to riots in a St. Louis suburb last August.
Trending on Google+:Obama to Limit Military-Style Equipment for Police ForcesNew York Times
In Depth:Obama Puts Stricter Controls on Military-Style for Police ABC News
Opps, we fucked up!


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