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dyna mo 05-21-2015 10:28 AM

what's going to happen if it's determined the cops killed all 9 waco bikers?
 
i betcha they killed most all, if not all of them.

bushwacker 05-21-2015 10:34 AM

Not much, paid administrative leave.

Socks 05-21-2015 10:39 AM

Well, for one I imagine there will be strict new policies on time spent at the gun range for shooting practice.

You can't run a gang in 2015 like that. Guys need to be able to shoot straight.

bronco67 05-21-2015 10:46 AM

I know cops were already at the scene (outside the bar), but wasn't all of the shooting inside? And if so, wouldn't a cop be justified to use his weapon if outlaw bikers are shooting?

dyna mo 05-21-2015 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20479676)
I know cops were already at the scene (outside the bar), but wasn't all of the shooting inside? And if so, wouldn't a cop be justified to use his weapon if outlaw bikers are shooting?

the latest accounts purport that the shooting erupted outside, with only 1 shot fired by a biker on the patio. the reports claim there is a video supporting this.

dyna mo 05-21-2015 10:57 AM

not saying this is accurate, but it is a different accounting of events from the official story

When the restaurant refused to ban the Confederation of Clubs, police stationed at least 22 cops including ten Swat officers from the Waco P.D. and the Texas Department of Public Safety in the parking lot outside the restaurant. They did not station either uniformed or plain clothes officers in the restaurant.

The shove in the bathroom became a scuffle in the restaurant. When about 30 Bandidos, Cossacks, Scimitars and other bikers spilled into the parking between the Twin peaks and the Don Carlos Mexican restaurant next door, the police were waiting for them. The scuffle became a knife fight and several men were stabbed. When one of the combatants produced a gun the Swat team opened fire with automatic weapons. Multiple sources have told The Aging Rebel that all of the dead were killed by police.

Biker Truthers Emerge Calling Waco Shootout a 'Police Massacre'

TCLGirls 05-21-2015 11:21 AM

911 caller heard shots before cops even arrived. So even if the dead bikers were all shot by cops, it is legitimate since those bikers were shooting other bikers first. (assuming the dead bikers were also shooters).

Just because the bikers were shooting at other bikers, and may not have been shooting at cops, doesn't mean the cops can't shoot at the bikers.

Markul 05-21-2015 11:26 AM

They get medals...?

Vendzilla 05-21-2015 11:30 AM

Well nothing happened the last time law enforcement killed a bunch of people in Waco Texas. I know one thing, I would never live there!

dyna mo 05-21-2015 11:30 AM

there are at least 2 claims that some killed/injured by gunfire were not part of the melee. the restaurant was a biker destination and had bike nights etc, the claim is these guys weren't there as a part of the meeting.

baddog 05-21-2015 11:32 AM

There is so much bullshit coming out about that event; it will definitely be interesting to see what the autopsies reveal.

Vendzilla 05-21-2015 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20479727)
there are at least 2 claims that some killed/injured by gunfire were not part of the melee. the restaurant was a biker destination and had bike nights etc, the claim is these guys weren't there as a part of the meeting.

I read the staff has been fired, they had been warned about what they were doing. Most places don't allow cuts to be warn

blackmonsters 05-21-2015 11:58 AM

So the cops know about the meeting and they set up outside just in case something goes wrong but nobody has a body cam or even a dash cam running?

dyna mo 05-21-2015 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 20479759)
So the cops know about the meeting and they set up outside just in case something goes wrong but nobody has a body cam or even a dash cam running?

shocker!

i'm also wondering where this formal request is, the one made by the cops, they claim, to have twin peaks not allow the event. certainly if they were so concerned they stationed dozens of cops/swat there, there would be a paper trail of an official request like that.

editeur 05-21-2015 12:17 PM

So, as the most victims are from 'Cossacs' gang and it was the police who stationed near the scene and opened the fire, we may make an assumption that this rival 'Bandidos' gang is, in fact, largely pigs' undercover agents and snitches. Pigs just got 'it's dangerous' signal fro the inside, come to save their collegues and opened deadly fire.

baddog 05-21-2015 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20479764)
shocker!

i'm also wondering where this formal request is, the one made by the cops, they claim, to have twin peaks not allow the event. certainly if they were so concerned they stationed dozens of cops/swat there, there would be a paper trail of an official request like that.

The restaurant chain said no such request was made (at least from secondary reports I read which have all seemed to contradict the initial reports).

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Originally Posted by editeur (Post 20479782)
So, as the most victims are from 'Cossacs' gang and it was the police who stationed near the scene and opened the fire, we may make an assumption that this rival 'Bandidos' gang is, in fact, largely pigs' undercover agents and snitches. Pigs just got 'it's dangerous' signal fro the inside, come to save their collegues and opened deadly fire.

One would think that idiocy such as yours would have been noticed before, but this is the first time I recall seeing your name.

crockett 05-21-2015 12:56 PM

I said at the start of this, that I bet the cops shot them all. It makes no sense that 170 bikers would willingly be arrested if they had just killed people in a gun fight. They would have turned the guns on the cops and tried to get away.

I'm betting they were duking it out, the cops got scared of the number of bikers and started shooting.

sicone 05-21-2015 01:03 PM

Nothing will happen. The will be a lot of saber rattling in the news but at the end of the day, the event will be pushed to the back burner and forgotten as soon as possible.

PornoMonster 05-21-2015 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20479753)
I read the staff has been fired, they had been warned about what they were doing. Most places don't allow cuts to be warn

The franchise license was pulled.

takethebluepill 05-21-2015 01:49 PM

Hopefully suspended or fired.

Only 9 bikers killed? That is disgraceful. A good cop would have been able to bag 10 or more of these parasites and still had time to go back into the diner for a coffee.

Rochard 05-21-2015 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 20479706)
911 caller heard shots before cops even arrived. So even if the dead bikers were all shot by cops, it is legitimate since those bikers were shooting other bikers first. (assuming the dead bikers were also shooters).

Just because the bikers were shooting at other bikers, and may not have been shooting at cops, doesn't mean the cops can't shoot at the bikers.

Cops were on the scene before any shooting began.

dyna mo 05-21-2015 01:55 PM

there were more than outlaw bikers at that restaurant the cops were shooting into. there were non-outlaw bikers, there were patrons dining, both outside and inside that were not even bikers, and all the employees.

Vendzilla 05-21-2015 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 20479845)
The franchise license was pulled.

I stand corrected, that is what I read. They can always reopen under a new name

_Richard_ 05-22-2015 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20479683)
the latest accounts purport that the shooting erupted outside, with only 1 shot fired by a biker on the patio. the reports claim there is a video supporting this.

i heard video has backed this up

Grapesoda 05-22-2015 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20479661)
i betcha they killed most all, if not all of them.

bikers lives matter :2 cents:

dyna mo 05-22-2015 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20480372)
bikers lives matter :2 cents:

i get it! :1orglaugh

Vendzilla 05-22-2015 07:38 AM

Just read where one of the bikers killed was a purple heart recipient.

dyna mo 05-22-2015 07:44 AM

'Criminal Meeting' of Bikers in Waco was Actually Organized Political Gathering


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