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crockett 05-27-2015 09:25 PM

Russian dindos once again massing forces on Ukraine boarder
 
Exclusive: Russia masses heavy firepower on border with Ukraine - witness | Reuters

Guess the Putiler is growing restless once again and wants to start poking the fire again.. Of course Russians claim they dindo nuttuns.

brassmonkey 05-27-2015 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20484381)
Exclusive: Russia masses heavy firepower on border with Ukraine - witness | Reuters

Guess the Putiler is growing restless once again and wants to start poking the fire again.. Of course Russians claim they dindo nuttuns.

thats where taco bell is located :2 cents::2 cents:

sandman! 05-27-2015 11:13 PM

well the Russians can do whatever they fuck they want within their borders.

not even going to bother clicking the link

lol

crockett 05-28-2015 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 20484408)
well the Russians can do whatever they fuck they want within their borders.

not even going to bother clicking the link

lol

Yes because Ukraine the place they keep sending all this military hardware & troops is with-in their boarders...

just a punk 05-28-2015 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20484592)
Yes because Ukraine the place they keep sending all this military hardware & troops is with-in their boarders...

Think of the Ukraine for Russia like Colombia for the USA. I know you're overbrainwashed but this kind of psychotherapy can stabilize your condition. Maybe now you will be able to sleep w/o your usual nightmares. Forget about it and start thinking about your own North American problems (US, Mexican or Canadian - I don't know exactly from where you are) :2 cents:

wehateporn 05-28-2015 07:24 AM

Nothing wrong with this, Russia are the main peacekeepers in that neck of the woods

klinton 05-28-2015 07:29 AM

it seems more logical to see eastern Ukraine as a Russian area of influence...than to see Iraq as a US area of influence...or Germany...or whatever

but what do I know:1orglaugh

now, lets go watch Rambo together, he knows everything about good and bad guys and foreign policies:1orglaugh

just a punk 05-28-2015 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20484626)
now, lets go watch Rambo together, he knows everything about good and bad guys and foreign policies:1orglaugh

http://i.imgur.com/tKwKmYX.png?1

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

klinton 05-28-2015 07:43 AM

yeah, exactly, and many more like that.:winkwink:
there is also movie about Georgia from last years....
Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20484629)
http://i.imgur.com/tKwKmYX.png?1

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


crockett 05-28-2015 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20484615)
Think of the Ukraine for Russia like Colombia for the USA. I know you're overbrainwashed but this kind of psychotherapy can stabilize your condition. Maybe now you will be able to sleep w/o your usual nightmares. Forget about it and start thinking about your own North American problems (US, Mexican or Canadian - I don't know exactly from where you are) :2 cents:

Since we are talking about brain washed.. I know you are too brainwashed to see the difference, but the US doesn't steal or take land from other sovereign nations forcing their citizens to become part of the US.

Yes we might interfere with other govts but so does every other major player on the world table. The US doesn't roll tanks into Mexico or Canada and take their land.. :2 cents:

I realize it's hard to understand the difference, but even though you claim to hate Putin.. you still fall for his dumb propaganda..

Anyway, I knew that you wouldn't be able to debate the actual subject of Russia invading Ukraine.. but would rather deflect to blame the USA.. You are a good little Putinbot..

crockett 05-28-2015 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20484626)
it seems more logical to see eastern Ukraine as a Russian area of influence...than to see Iraq as a US area of influence...or Germany...or whatever

but what do I know:1orglaugh

now, lets go watch Rambo together, he knows everything about good and bad guys and foreign policies:1orglaugh

That's because Russia is just a 2nd teir regional power.. while the US is a 1st tier world power.. :1orglaugh

Barry-xlovecam 05-28-2015 08:46 AM

Quote:

MOSCOW — Russian President Vladimir Putin lashed out at the United States on Thursday, accusing it of meddling in global soccer amid an unprecedented corruption scandal.

In televised comments, Putin called the U.S. involvement in the FIFA investigation "strange" and said the country was overstepping its power amid growing concerns, especially that of Russia's, that the scandal could affect that country's hosting of the 2018 World Cup.

Speaking to journalists Thursday, Putin called the probe "a clear attempt to keep Mr. (Sepp) Blatter from being re-elected as president of FIFA," according to an official statement on the Kremlin's website. Blatter is expected to win a fifth term Friday.

"This is a blatant violation of the principle of how international organizations function," Putin said. "We are aware of the pressure that he was subjected to in relation to Russia holding the 2018 World Cup."
FIFA corruption: Vladimir Putin accuses U.S. of meddling
Putin is not paranoid :1orglaugh

just a punk 05-28-2015 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20484651)
Yes we might interfere with other govts but so does every other major player on the world table. The US doesn't roll tanks into Mexico or Canada and take their land..

Oh yeah..

http://randomoverload.org/wp-content...8bikes.jpg.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20484651)
That's because Russia is just a 2nd teir regional power.. while the US is a 1st tier world power..

http://www.lolcommission.com/wp-cont...-image-462.jpg

And that's why you have no free medicine and no free education :1orglaugh

klinton 05-28-2015 09:37 AM

haha, same thoughts...he is KGB guy, paranoya is normal state of mind for these people ;-)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20484678)
Putin is not paranoid :1orglaugh


klinton 05-28-2015 09:39 AM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
maybe you should read history more or sth...
pointless
Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20484646)
Yes we might interfere with other govts but so does every other major player on the world table. The US doesn't roll tanks into Mexico or Canada and take their land.. :2 cents:


brassmonkey 05-28-2015 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20484682)


http://www.lolcommission.com/wp-cont...-image-462.jpg

And that's why you have no free medicine and no free education :1orglaugh

more sanctions for you!! :)

crockett 05-28-2015 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20484738)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
maybe you should read history more or sth...
pointless

Oh shut up dumb fuck.. 200 years ago the world was very diffrent. It's not 200 years ago, today. Russia shouldn't be acting as if it were.

just a punk 05-28-2015 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20484906)
Oh shut up dumb fuck.. 200 years ago the world was very diffrent. It's not 200 years ago, today. Russia shouldn't be acting as if it were.

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/20..._s-d4l5rbk.jpg

klinton 05-28-2015 01:41 PM

I'm talking about XX and XXi century....
and i dont remember calling you names...so please show how classy you are in other place :winkwink:
there we go charlie, first link from google:
History of U.S. Military Interventions since 1890
even if you skip "peaceful landings" during natural disasters its quite big list....and it doesnt cover all spec op operations and "the permanent stationing of armed forces"
Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20484906)
Oh shut up dumb fuck.. 200 years ago the world was very diffrent. It's not 200 years ago, today. Russia shouldn't be acting as if it were.


pimpmaster9000 05-28-2015 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20484381)
Exclusive: Russia masses heavy firepower on border with Ukraine - witness | Reuters

Guess the Putiler is growing restless once again and wants to start poking the fire again.. Of course Russians claim they dindo nuttuns.

yeah just look how close they placed their country to your military bases :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

http://www.cjournal.info/wp-content/...taryGlobal.jpg


american dindus din du nuffin! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

pimpmaster9000 05-28-2015 04:36 PM

https://socioecohistory.files.wordpr...tary_bases.jpg

crockett 05-28-2015 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20484993)
yeah just look how close they placed their country to your military bases :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

http://www.cjournal.info/wp-content/...taryGlobal.jpg


american dindus din du nuffin! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Notice we didn't have to roll tanks into 99.9% of those countries to get military bases.

directfiesta 05-28-2015 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20484646)
Since we are talking about brain washed.. I know you are too brainwashed to see the difference, but the US doesn't steal or take land from other sovereign nations forcing their citizens to become part of the US.

Yes we might interfere with other govts but so does every other major player on the world table. The US doesn't roll tanks into Mexico or Canada and take their land.. :2 cents:

I realize it's hard to understand the difference, but even though you claim to hate Putin.. you still fall for his dumb propaganda..

Anyway, I knew that you wouldn't be able to debate the actual subject of Russia invading Ukraine.. but would rather deflect to blame the USA.. You are a good little Putinbot..

Quote:

In 1993, a joint Apology Resolution regarding the overthrow was passed by the U.S. Congress and signed by President Bill Clinton. The resolution apologized for the overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom and said the United States had annexed Hawaii unlawfully.[75]
:warning

crockett 05-28-2015 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20485002)
:warning

hawaii annexed 1893... Over 120 years ago. There isn't a person alive today when that happened..

mineistaken 05-28-2015 06:04 PM

The funny thing is that we had (still have?) one person who actually believed that there were no Russian troops invading Ukraine, just "local people".

Seems like saying "dindo nuffin" works :1orglaugh

klinton 05-28-2015 07:33 PM

not troops per se, but special OPs from KGB/FSB. that was at the beginning of the conflict...
are Russian forces present in Eastern Ukraine with tanks and so on ? well...where is the proof ??? where are the satelite photos ?
in my opinion its proxy war with special forces..and maybe few tanks
Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20485058)
The funny thing is that we had (still have?) one person who actually believed that there were no Russian troops invading Ukraine, just "local people".

Seems like saying "dindo nuffin" works :1orglaugh


pimpmaster9000 05-29-2015 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20485001)
Notice we didn't have to roll tanks into 99.9% of those countries to get military bases.

yes yes the people of those countries were all like "US dindus please build military bases in our country because honest hones US politicians are held is such high regard, please come and make a military base we want to be a vassal state" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh sounds legit...

you did not have to roll in tanks but if the vassal states did not agree to your military presence their leaders would have an *accident* or their country would get """"""""""""liberated"""""""""""" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

only an american would actually believe that other countries actually want armed american didnus...please US dindus come and napalm us :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

MiamiBoyz 05-29-2015 05:23 AM

Makes me wet
 
http://40.media.tumblr.com/36552aa94...qyo4o1_540.jpg

directfiesta 05-29-2015 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20485048)
hawaii annexed 1893... Over 120 years ago. There isn't a person alive today when that happened..

how about giving the cut-off date that is accommodating to you ... and we will take it from there ....

1900 ? 1950 ? 1990 ? 2001 ? 2003 ? 2012 ? yesterday ?

just a punk 05-29-2015 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20485398)
how about giving the cut-off date that is accommodating to you ... and we will take it from there ....

1900 ? 1950 ? 1990 ? 2001 ? 2003 ? 2012 ? yesterday ?

Why do you ask? He said it clear enough: 1893. If you ask for Native Americans genocide, Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, My Lai massacre, Guantanamo, Afghanistan rapes, unjustified occupation of Iraq with thousands of civilians (women, kids and old men) killed just for fun, the cut-off date will be different of course. It's not a good idea to ask such questions to a brainwashed creature. You won't get the answer anyways :2 cents:

PornoStar69 05-29-2015 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20484381)
Exclusive: Russia masses heavy firepower on border with Ukraine - witness | Reuters

Guess the Putiler is growing restless once again and wants to start poking the fire again.. Of course Russians claim they dindo nuttuns.



Crock, you do know he works for that illuminati secret society.

Its his job to start a war - although they (illuminati) will pull many many false flags.

It takes 2 to tango



The amount of fake ass events they create is funny

Boston bombing fake
Sandy hook line and sinker fake
Cinema shooting fake

I highly suggest you check out the 'illuminati card game'

crockett 05-29-2015 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20485398)
how about giving the cut-off date that is accommodating to you ... and we will take it from there ....

1900 ? 1950 ? 1990 ? 2001 ? 2003 ? 2012 ? yesterday ?

I'd say modern era should be obvious. Cars were not even a thing in 1893 people rode horses & buggies. There was no phone lines in peoples homes and it was pretty fucking easy for a govt to do things with out the people knowing..

Fast forward to the modern era where we are all informed very easily. In this modern era govt's should not be acting as they did 100 years ago. Govt's should not be rolling tanks to steal other people's land.

It's one thing if there is instability or the govt is attacking others. However in this case, Russia created the instability and used it as an excuse not to be "peacekeepers" but to "steal" land.

Of course you and your putinbot buddies are too brainwashed to understand the difference. The US didn't roll into Iraq & Afghan and annex their land. The US rolled in be it right or wrong but we handed the land back over to the govt when we were finished fucking stuff up.

Also Russia isn't the peaceful fuckfaces you seem to think they are. They have been involved in 12 wars since 1991.

List of wars involving Russia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


In the same time period the US has been involved in 11 and that counts the 1st Gulf War and the following no fly zone as separate wars. It also counts Afghan & the drones attacks in Pakistan as "separate" wars as well as the 2nd Iraq War & ISIL as being separate.


List of wars involving the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But of course you dindo nuttin Russians blame the US for all your woes while pretending to do nuttins..

I used to think North Korea was taking lessons from Russia, but at this point it's clear that Putin has been taking lessons from NK on how to dumb down and brainwash the masses.. Seems to be working wonderfully for him.. Even the people whom claim they hate him spread his dumb-ass propaganda..

directfiesta 05-29-2015 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20485435)
I'd say modern era should be obvious. Cars were not even a thing in 1893 people rode horses & buggies. There was no phone lines in peoples homes and it was pretty fucking easy for a govt to do things with out the people knowing..

Fast forward to the modern era where we are all informed very easily. In this modern era govt's should not be acting as they did 100 years ago. Govt's should not be rolling tanks to steal other people's land.

It's one thing if there is instability or the govt is attacking others. However in this case, Russia created the instability and used it as an excuse not to be "peacekeepers" but to "steal" land.

Of course you and your putinbot buddies are too brainwashed to understand the difference. The US didn't roll into Iraq & Afghan and annex their land. The US rolled in be it right or wrong but we handed the land back over to the govt when we were finished fucking stuff up.

Also Russia isn't the peaceful fuckfaces you seem to think they are. They have been involved in 12 wars since 1991.

List of wars involving Russia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


In the same time period the US has been involved in 11 and that counts the 1st Gulf War and the following no fly zone as separate wars. It also counts Afghan & the drones attacks in Pakistan as "separate" wars as well as the 2nd Iraq War & ISIL as being separate.


List of wars involving the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But of course you dindo nuttin Russians blame the US for all your woes while pretending to do nuttins..

just a year ... 4 numbers ... easy no ?

klinton 05-29-2015 08:04 AM

sure it is, and strangely - always installing puppet governments before pulling out ;-)
US Interventions after 1890
it seems that you skipped that link from my previous post, thats why its bigger now. no worries, you dont have to tell that 1890 is old history. lots of the stuff is from 80's, 60's, 50's , 70's of XX century..and even from XXI century..can you believe that ?:1orglaugh
Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20485435)
The US rolled in be it right or wrong but we handed the land back over to the govt when we were finished fucking stuff up.


crockett 05-29-2015 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20485447)
sure it is, and strangely - always installing puppet governments before pulling out ;-)
US Interventions after 1890
it seems that you skipped that link from my previous post, thats why its bigger now. no worries, you dont have to tell that 1890 is old history. lots of the stuff is from 80's, 60's, 50's , 70's of XX century..and even from XXI century..can you believe that ?:1orglaugh

What do you think your govt does? In those 11 wars the Russian Federation has been involved in since 1991. The entire purpose of each was was to install "Moscow friendly" puppet govts in break away states.

You seriously can not be this brainwashed to see that your govt does the same thing you whine about the US doing.. but it's somehow different because of "USA"..

Once again as usual you can not even debate on the topic of Russia invading Ukraine, but rather distract, distract, distract blame USA! You are a glorious little Putinbot I hope he gives you a forum warrior medal.

klinton 05-29-2015 08:56 AM

1. I'm not Russian
2. I'm aware of it
3. at least they do it in the direct proximity of their borders, which is - somehow - understandable
Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20485451)
What do you think your govt does? In those 11 wars the Russian Federation has been involved in since 1991. The entire purpose of each was was to install "Moscow friendly" puppet govts in break away states.

You seriously can not be this brainwashed to see that your govt does the same thing you whine about the US doing.. but it's somehow different because of "USA"..

Once again as usual you can not even debate on the topic of Russia invading Ukraine, but rather distract, distract, distract blame USA! You are a glorious little Putinbot I hope he gives you a forum warrior medal.


Nitzer Ebb 05-29-2015 09:10 AM

http://i.imgur.com/pOiCt38.jpg

klinton 05-29-2015 11:40 AM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

crockett 05-29-2015 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20485497)
1. I'm not Russian
2. I'm aware of it
3. at least they do it in the direct proximity of their borders, which is - somehow - understandable

It's actually worse. They are imposing their rule on their neighbors by force. This is why no one really like Russia's flavor of koolaid. With Russia it's like you are forced to shop at the dollar store. No one really wants to buy their shit at the dollar store, but it's bargain basement..

The US however offers a different approach. The US is like Costco, if you join our club you get much better products and access to lots of friends and to be part of the winning team..

It's a no brainier as to why the only countries whom jump on the Ruskin bandwagon are broke as fuck or dictatorships, hell even China abandoned Team Ruskin.. The rest of the world wants to be on Team American no matter if they admit it or not..

It's only the kids no one likes whom want to join Team Ruskin.. :1orglaugh

directfiesta 05-29-2015 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20485899)
It's actually worse. They are imposing their rule on their neighbors by force. This is why no one really like Russia's flavor of koolaid. With Russia it's like you are forced to shop at the dollar store. No one really wants to buy their shit at the dollar store, but it's bargain basement..

The US however offers a different approach. The US is like Costco, if you join our club you get much better products and access to lots of friends and to be part of the winning team..

It's a no brainier as to why the only countries whom jump on the Ruskin bandwagon are broke as fuck or dictatorships, hell even China abandoned Team Ruskin.. The rest of the world wants to be on Team American no matter if they admit it or not..

It's only the kids no one likes whom want to join Team Ruskin.. :1orglaugh

wow !!!!

just a punk 05-30-2015 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20485899)
It's actually worse. They are imposing their rule on their neighbors by force. This is why no one really like Russia's flavor of koolaid. With Russia it's like you are forced to shop at the dollar store. No one really wants to buy their shit at the dollar store, but it's bargain basement..

The US however offers a different approach. The US is like Costco, if you join our club you get much better products and access to lots of friends and to be part of the winning team..

It's a no brainier as to why the only countries whom jump on the Ruskin bandwagon are broke as fuck or dictatorships, hell even China abandoned Team Ruskin.. The rest of the world wants to be on Team American no matter if they admit it or not..

It's only the kids no one likes whom want to join Team Ruskin.. :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Are you drunk or on drugs?

klinton 05-30-2015 05:13 AM

no, I would paint it different: conflict between two apporaches: US corporations doing whatever they want with other countries or countries that have "independent" governments of pigs (red Orwell ?) who want to do good for themselves, not for US corpos.
btw. I dont remember China abandoning "team Ruski" ???
Chinese are too smart people to abandon any major player, they play with everyone and guess what - dont start wars for money, they just flood markets with cheap products and later buy whole countries...isnt it better ?:winkwink:
btw. i thought that you will interprete the fact that China created new global "bank/monetary fund", alternative to the current one (US rules) as a sign of China abandoning "Team America"...but it looks like everyone is free to its own interpretations in this world heheh.
Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20485899)
It's a no brainier as to why the only countries whom jump on the Ruskin bandwagon are broke as fuck or dictatorships, hell even China abandoned Team Ruskin.. The rest of the world wants to be on Team American no matter if they admit it or not..


crockett 05-30-2015 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20486074)
no, I would paint it different: conflict between two apporaches: US corporations doing whatever they want with other countries or countries that have "independent" governments of pigs (red Orwell ?) who want to do good for themselves, not for US corpos.
btw. I dont remember China abandoning "team Ruski" ???
Chinese are too smart people to abandon any major player, they play with everyone and guess what - dont start wars for money, they just flood markets with cheap products and later buy whole countries...isnt it better ?:winkwink:
btw. i thought that you will interprete the fact that China created new global "bank/monetary fund", alternative to the current one (US rules) as a sign of China abandoning "Team America"...but it looks like everyone is free to its own interpretations in this world heheh.

They abandoned their strict commie ways and opened up to trade with the US and the rest of the West. Mother Russia wasn't exactly happy about this..but China has grown big and fat to the point they don't take orders from their mom anymore..

Lets just sit back and watch the two current situations and how they take place.

Ukraine was Russia's bitch and wanted to be friendly with the European powers to the West. Because it's next door to Russia, they were able to bitch slap Ukraine with military force. In 20 years people in Ukraine will be just as isolated as they are now and will be just as poor. Russia will do nothing to spur their economy. The people will be poor with the best option to leave for the West..

Cuba.. yet another old bitch of the USSR. However after the collapse Russia wasn't able to keep their thumb on Cuba's head to the same effect as they could in Ukraine. It didn't matter much though because the US didn't like Cuba so much..

The US finally decides.. hey WTF.. no reason to remain angry at Cuba after all these years lets be friends. There isn't much Russia can do to stop this as Russia is really just a regional power these days and Cuba is far out side it's realm..

In 20 years Cuba will be a booming economy as it was before it fell to the commies. Why? Because America will invest in them and the thousands of Cubans whom have done well for themselves in the US will also be spending money there or starting businesses.

On one had you have the Russia brand.. Oppression.. On the other you have the US brand which is Capitalism.. of course capitalism can not be perfect when people are involved but it sure as hell beats the pants off oppression..

edit.. I will say Cuba's future booming economy depends a lot on Cuba and their internal corruption. The US will invest in Cuba, but if internal corruption becomes to much as it did in Russia when the USSR fell then the US and our businesses will stop investing.

For US support to work, you need a functioning govt which isn't over run with corruption.. Example is Mexico. The US in the 80s tried to spur economic growth in Mexico by moving many factories there but Mexican corruption was too high so the companies stopped doing business there.. No one invests in shaky countries as long as Cuba plays their cards right they will be big..

Ukraine on the other hand will still be oppressed by Russia and that's why no one wants to drink Russia's koolaide.. Russia is like the jealous abusive boyfriend whom gets mad if his girl talks to anyone else. Those kinds of relationships only last so long they always end up with either the boyfriend killing the girl or the girl leaving.

directfiesta 05-30-2015 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20486175)
They abandoned their strict commie ways and opened up to trade with the US and the rest of the West. Mother Russia wasn't exactly happy about this..but China has grown big and fat to the point they don't take orders from their mom anymore..

Lets just sit back and watch the two current situations and how they take place.

Ukraine was Russia's bitch and wanted to be friendly with the European powers to the West. Because it's next door to Russia, they were able to bitch slap Ukraine with military force. In 20 years people in Ukraine will be just as isolated as they are now and will be just as poor. Russia will do nothing to spur their economy. The people will be poor with the best option to leave for the West..

Cuba.. yet another old bitch of the USSR. However after the collapse Russia wasn't able to keep their thumb on Cuba's head to the same effect as they could in Ukraine. It didn't matter much though because the US didn't like Cuba so much..

The US finally decides.. hey WTF.. no reason to remain angry at Cuba after all these years lets be friends. There isn't much Russia can do to stop this as Russia is really just a regional power these days and Cuba is far out side it's realm..

In 20 years Cuba will be a booming economy as it was before it fell to the commies. Why? Because America will invest in them and the thousands of Cubans whom have done well for themselves in the US will also be spending money there or starting businesses.

On one had you have the Russia brand.. Oppression.. On the other you have the US brand which is Capitalism.. of course capitalism can not be perfect when people are involved but it sure as hell beats the pants off oppression..

http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/...ps43d8efbb.jpg

just a punk 05-30-2015 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20486175)
They abandoned their strict commie ways and opened up to trade with the US and the rest of the West. Mother Russia wasn't exactly happy about this..but China has grown big and fat to the point they don't take orders from their mom anymore..

Lets just sit back and watch the two current situations and how they take place.

Ukraine was Russia's bitch and wanted to be friendly with the European powers to the West. Because it's next door to Russia, they were able to bitch slap Ukraine with military force. In 20 years people in Ukraine will be just as isolated as they are now and will be just as poor. Russia will do nothing to spur their economy. The people will be poor with the best option to leave for the West..

Cuba.. yet another old bitch of the USSR. However after the collapse Russia wasn't able to keep their thumb on Cuba's head to the same effect as they could in Ukraine. It didn't matter much though because the US didn't like Cuba so much..

The US finally decides.. hey WTF.. no reason to remain angry at Cuba after all these years lets be friends. There isn't much Russia can do to stop this as Russia is really just a regional power these days and Cuba is far out side it's realm..

In 20 years Cuba will be a booming economy as it was before it fell to the commies. Why? Because America will invest in them and the thousands of Cubans whom have done well for themselves in the US will also be spending money there or starting businesses.

On one had you have the Russia brand.. Oppression.. On the other you have the US brand which is Capitalism.. of course capitalism can not be perfect when people are involved but it sure as hell beats the pants off oppression..

edit.. I will say Cuba's future booming economy depends a lot on Cuba and their internal corruption. The US will invest in Cuba, but if internal corruption becomes to much as it did in Russia when the USSR fell then the US and our businesses will stop investing.

For US support to work, you need a functioning govt which isn't over run with corruption.. Example is Mexico. The US in the 80s tried to spur economic growth in Mexico by moving many factories there but Mexican corruption was too high so the companies stopped doing business there.. No one invests in shaky countries as long as Cuba plays their cards right they will be big..

Ukraine on the other hand will still be oppressed by Russia and that's why no one wants to drink Russia's koolaide.. Russia is like the jealous abusive boyfriend whom gets mad if his girl talks to anyone else. Those kinds of relationships only last so long they always end up with either the boyfriend killing the girl or the girl leaving.

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crockett 05-30-2015 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20486179)



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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20486232)

Obviously you know I'm right, because you have no blame the USA remarks to refute with, so you are both left with resorting to posting memes.. your beloved communism is and always has been a dead end..

The capitalist pigs have won.. why? Because it works hence the reason Russia and China have both switched to it even though their systems are both highly corrupt..

just a punk 05-30-2015 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20486285)
The capitalist pigs have won.. why?

You are wrong again. The socialist "pigs" won. I mean the first world countries like Sweden, Switzerland, Norway etc. Everything goes as it was predicted by Marx. Someday your country will achieve the same level of development and you will have socialism too (I mean free medicine, free and mandatory education etc). The problem of Russia and China is that both countries have tried to jump over capitalism right into socialism. As we all know today, this didn't work*.

*Actually it was almost worked during 20s (НЭП) and 60s (Оттипель) of 20th century when Russia has made two real big leaps during a very short time (totally defeated illiteracy, won the space race, made mandatory vaccination, became the most educated country in the World etc). Unfortunately those achievements were lost in Brezhnev's times because of corruption, pretending and indifference.

P.S. In fact, we are still the most educated country on this planet: Russians are the Most Well Educated: UK Ranked Seventh

pimpmaster9000 05-30-2015 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20486291)
P.S. In fact, we are still the most educated country on this planet: Russians are the Most Well Educated: UK Ranked Seventh

americans are too brainwashed to believe that anybody could be better at anything than 'merica and that nobody is jelly :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

crockett 05-30-2015 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20486291)
You are wrong again. The socialist "pigs" won. I mean the first world countries like Sweden, Switzerland, Norway etc. Everything goes as it was predicted by Marx. Someday your country will achieve the same level of development and you will have socialism too (I mean free medicine, free and mandatory education etc). The problem of Russia and China is that both countries have tried to jump over capitalism right into socialism. As we all know today, this didn't work*.

*Actually it was almost worked during 20s (НЭП) and 60s (Оттипель) of 20th century when Russia has made two real big leaps during a very short time (totally defeated illiteracy, won the space race, made mandatory vaccination, became the most educated country in the World etc). Unfortunately those achievements were lost in Brezhnev's times because of corruption, pretending and indifference.

P.S. In fact, we are still the most educated country on this planet: Russians are the Most Well Educated: UK Ranked Seventh


You seem to over look a problem the US has when it comes to healthcare. We have a population of 319 million people. Sweden has 9.5 mil, Switzerland has 8 mil, Norway has 5 million..

Those countries have the population of single states with-in the US. It's much easier to give your population free heathcare when you don't even have 1/10th the population which the US has..

However.. a state in the US with the population of Norway which is Massachusetts does have a working healthcare system where everyone is that state is covered. Obamacare was modeled after that state's healthcare system and it's goal is to get everyone covered with healthcare.. but once again we have 319 million people to cover even Russia does not have half of the US population..

crockett 05-30-2015 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20486351)
americans are too brainwashed to believe that anybody could be better at anything than 'merica and that nobody is jelly :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

We all see how well you Russians put your educations to work. I mean it's not like 80% of the males in Russia are useless drunks or anything. The rest of the world is just over whelmed with all the innovation coming from those well educated Russians.. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh


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