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AdultKing 06-05-2015 07:14 AM

Cloudflare forced to play the same game as everyone else
 
Cloudflare has now been dragged kicking and screaming into the real world where it can no longer offer safe harbour to illegal, infringing or criminal websites.

Quote:

A California Internet company ordered by a federal judge to stop providing services to a copycat version of Grooveshark, the streaming music website shut down in April by a copyright dispute, says it is being improperly thrust into an enforcement role.

The order Wednesday by U.S. District Judge Alison Nathan in Manhattan widening a preliminary injunction against the operators of the cloned Grooveshark to now include CloudFlare, Inc, "makes CloudFlare and other Internet Service Providers the copyright and trademark police for other rights holders," the company's general counsel, Kenneth Carter, said in an interview.
Web company says judge's ruling turns it into 'copyright police' | Reuters

PornDiscounts-V 06-05-2015 07:39 AM

Was never sure why they could do what they do for such sites, but Youtube has to remove infringing content and so does everyone else.

AdultKing 06-05-2015 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by vvvvv (Post 20490889)
Was never sure why they could do what they do for such sites, but Youtube has to remove infringing content and so does everyone else.

Well this judgement, if not overturned, will lead to others which will result in Cloudflare no longer being a "safe haven".

The number of crimeware sites hidden behind Cloudflare is astonishing.

Cloudflare's service is a fantastic one, they are much better off shedding the scum they currently protect.

freecartoonporn 06-05-2015 08:18 AM

why people are using cloudflare ?, reverse proxy is nothing new , its just reverse proxy as a service.

AdultKing 06-05-2015 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn (Post 20490921)
why people are using cloudflare ?, reverse proxy is nothing new , its just reverse proxy as a service.

It's a CDN that has the lowest cost of entry together with collective protection against DDoS, malicious bots and other cool stuff. Unfortunately all this was very attractive to crimeware and other nefarious sites.

Markul 06-05-2015 09:03 AM

This is funny, considering the fact that you used CloudFlare for your little Copy Control Pty scam and defended them in the past when I pointed out that they harbor pirates... in fact you said:

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They are a CDN (Content Distribution Network) that only caches around the world what is served from primary servers elsewhere.

To take the content down, or the site down, contacting the originating host of the content is the correct strategy to pursue.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

AdultKing 06-05-2015 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 20490999)
This is funny, considering the fact that you used CloudFlare for your little Copy Control Pty scam and defended them in the past when I pointed out that they harbor pirates...

Scam ? Copy Control is not and was never a scam, you better retract that or come up with some proof pretty quickly.

Quote:

They are a CDN (Content Distribution Network) that only caches around the world what is served from primary servers elsewhere.

To take the content down, or the site down, contacting the originating host of the content is the correct strategy to pursue.
And this still applies, in fact the court order confirms that by removing the anonymity of Cloudflare from the equation.

Markul, you really do yourself a disservice by trotting out lies and then showing how much you lack in the basic understanding of the issues here.

Markul 06-05-2015 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20491005)
Scam ? Copy Control is not and was never a scam, you better retract that or come up with some proof pretty quickly.


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Fuck off :321GFY

AdultKing 06-05-2015 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Markul (Post 20491018)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Fuck off :321GFY

Yes, we know how you conduct business Markul, as a pirate sympathiser and someone who harbours piracy sites on his network it's no wonder you react like this.

http://bbspics.com/images/2015/06/05...ledName.md.png

After two years you still haven't blocked file locker domains from being exploited by your pirate users.

Markul 06-05-2015 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20491026)
Yes, we know how you conduct business Markul, as a pirate sympathiser and someone who harbours piracy sites on his network it's no wonder you react like this.

After two years you still haven't blocked file locker domains from being exploited by your pirate users.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh you are such an idiot man, why are you even here? No-one likes you except your little bitch Johnny.

Go back to ripping off production companies :thumbsup

AdultKing 06-05-2015 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Markul (Post 20491031)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh you are such an idiot man, why are you even here? No-one likes you except your little bitch Johnny.

Go back to ripping off production companies :thumbsup

I don't rip anyone off, never have and never will. However you're still hosting piracy sites. Says a lot about you.

Bladewire 06-05-2015 09:28 AM


Markul 06-05-2015 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20491035)
I don't rip anyone off, never have and never will.

https://31.media.tumblr.com/1214d74c...i5t1sratm4.gif

Captain Kawaii 06-05-2015 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20491039)

What movie is that from?

Markul. I understand you have a gripe because you have competing services with AdultKing and you feel differently about piracy than some do. But your alignment with pirates, malware and pedophile peeps is not good for your business. :2 cents:

Stop making drama and put some evidence out there. Cold hard facts. You have a nice service. Show that you are worth the support.

AdultKing 06-05-2015 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 20491053)
What movie is that from?

The last Game of Thrones episode, it was awesome.

Markul will come to regret his statements on GFY tonight, I guarantee that. :2 cents:

Markul 06-05-2015 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 20491053)
What movie is that from?

Markul. I understand you have a gripe because you have competing services with AdultKing and you feel differently about piracy than some do. But your alignment with pirates, malware and <FUCK YOU I HAVE KIDS> peeps is not good for your business. :2 cents:

Stop making drama and put some evidence out there. Cold hard facts. You have a nice service. Show that you are worth the support.

I don't need, want or in any way or shape, desire you or any of AK's cronies support.... Now did you just call me a pedo... really? wow. that's fucking low man, even for you.

Bladewire 06-05-2015 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 20491053)
What movie is that from?

Markul. I understand you have a gripe because you have competing services with AdultKing and you feel differently about piracy than some do. But your alignment with pirates, malware and pedophile peeps is not good for your business. :2 cents:

Stop making drama and put some evidence out there. Cold hard facts. You have a nice service. Show that you are worth the support.



The last Game of Thrones :thumbsup

Your inbox is full http://ufonts.com/smilies/i/cool0044.gif












Markul 06-05-2015 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20491056)
Markul will come to regret his statements on GFY tonight, I guarantee that. :2 cents:

https://i.imgflip.com/7vwc5.jpg

xXXtesy10 06-05-2015 09:52 AM

just call them Caitlyn :1orglaugh

pornguy 06-05-2015 09:55 AM

They are claiming it makes them the police.

And it does not at all. it makes them the judges.

Bladewire 06-05-2015 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 20491063)
I don't need, want or in any way or shape, desire you or any of AK's cronies support.... Now did you just call me a pedo... really? wow. that's fucking low man, even for you.

I like Markul :thumbsup


AK & Markul both know you can't have a blog hosting service without stolen content.

Youtube knows this, Instagram, Tumblr. Everyone knows this.

You both are in the same provider space, Markul was just there first :2 cents:


















sandman! 06-05-2015 10:03 AM

they will fight it :2 cents::2 cents:

AdultKing 06-05-2015 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20491081)
[AK & Markul both know you can't have a blog hosting service without stolen content.

That's completely true, we've deleted lots of blogs linking to file lockers and other infringing sites. It all comes down to how pro-actively you police it. Markul's legal situation may be different from ours - however our legal advice is that we need to take pro-active measures to keep infringing content off our service, so we have policies in place that reflect that.

AdultKing 06-05-2015 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 20491085)
they will fight it :2 cents::2 cents:

I'm surprised they haven't immediately appealed, although they have time to consider the judgement - it will be interesting to see how this unfolds.

I think Cloudflare could have avoided all this by establishing a procedure to allow rights holders to identify infringers and their originating server infrastructure.

On one hand Cloudflare says it is just a pass through service, however on the other they refuse to assist those who are investigating or prosecuting civil actions against their clients.

If they are just a pass through service, why then can't they be cooperative with legal action rather than digging their heels in to protect the infringers ?

Nobody is really interested in Cloudflare per se, the interest is really with the originating host of the service or site as that's who will need to shut down the infringers anyway.

Captain Kawaii 06-05-2015 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Markul (Post 20491063)
I don't need, want or in any way or shape, desire you or any of AK's cronies support.... Now did you just call me a pedo... really? wow. that's fucking low man, even for you.

No. I said you align yourself with pedos. Try and keep up. You are on the losing end of this stick. Cloudflare now knows it and others will learn it. Juts FYI they have been quietly making deals with REAL ISPs because they knew this day was coming.

There's nothing low about what I do. Apparently you are filth. Sorry to say that but that's what it looks like.

No hard facts. I expected as much but hoped for more.

Captain Kawaii 06-05-2015 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20491081)
I like Markul :thumbsup


AK & Markul both know you can't have a blog hosting service without stolen content.

Youtube knows this, Instagram, Tumblr. Everyone knows this.

You both are in the same provider space, Markul was just there first :2 cents:


















Imgur just decided this this week as well. No more porn. Much of it stolen or being mis-used by people with no rights to it. They are purging adult content and looking for cat pics. Which is okay by me.

Yeah, I like Markul as well. But his sights need re-alignment, imo.

Bladewire 06-05-2015 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 20491212)
Imgur just decided this this week as well. No more porn. Much of it stolen or being mis-used by people with no rights to it. They are purging adult content and looking for cat pics. Which is okay by me.




This & This

Top posts on IMGUR are porn.

Typical platform, get big, find Jesus and die slowly as users leave.



The adult content on IMGUR is misused by scrapers posting it to Tumblr to get traffic off tumblr and on to their money making sites.Old school spammers need to grow the fuck up and realize that value is what makes money now, not a slash & burn approach. It's less work and more money, they should learn that and adapt.



trevesty 06-05-2015 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 20491212)
Imgur just decided this this week as well. No more porn. Much of it stolen or being mis-used by people with no rights to it. They are purging adult content and looking for cat pics. Which is okay by me.

Yeah, I like Markul as well. But his sights need re-alignment, imo.

Imgur Blog

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

No, they just hired a couple of people to deal with take downs from the public gallery more efficiently and made their NSFW in public "rules" more transparent.

Nothing changed... at all... in practice. :thumbsup

Captain Kawaii 06-05-2015 06:53 PM

Cash not Jesus, Bladewire...:winkwink:

Porn is bad for business: Imgur spent years as a bootstrapped pet project of Alan Schaaf's, but in the past year, it's raised millions of dollars from prominent venture capital firms in order to turn its burgeoning community into a business. Imgur will be rolling out a new promoted ad campaign later this summer, and it's been hiring more salespeople to build a sort of user-generated Internet magazine of the future.

And although they want to keep the Imgurian identity intact, having a content free-for-all with porn everywhere is a major turn-off for premium advertisers. It's no coincidence that the new rules about NSFW content came at the same time as a major app release and announcement about new native ads. (Pornographic content hosted on Imgur ? much of which is accessed via Reddit ? is unaffected for the time being.)

Imgur Community Revolts After Site Tightens NSFW Controls - Mic

There is push back coming to adult from many sides: Govs, mainstream, religious nut jobs. Bottom line is they believe it diminishes their financial returns when porn is mixed too heavily with mainstream. Twitter just caught that, Pinterest seems to already know it and now imgur, wanting to grow has to slowly curtail some of the hardcore and links.
People in the porn business should be happy about this as it pushes the free-loaders/thieves into being consumers. Sure, people will continue to try and scam but the penalties are getting more stiff...so to speak.

Captain Kawaii 06-05-2015 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevesty (Post 20491255)
Imgur Blog

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

No, they just hired a couple of people to deal with take downs from the public gallery more efficiently and made their NSFW in public "rules" more transparent.

Nothing changed... at all... in practice. :thumbsup

I'm sure you benefit from lots of "borrowed" content on reddit and imgur. Change is coming. Not all at once but deal with it.

Markul 06-06-2015 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 20491207)
No. I said you align yourself with pedos. Try and keep up. You are on the losing end of this stick. Cloudflare now knows it and others will learn it. Juts FYI they have been quietly making deals with REAL ISPs because they knew this day was coming.

There's nothing low about what I do. Apparently you are filth. Sorry to say that but that's what it looks like.

No hard facts. I expected as much but hoped for more.

You have no basis to say what you did and you know that the terms of my service clearly state that nothing of that sort is allowed.

:321GFY

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20491056)
Markul will come to regret his statements on GFY tonight, I guarantee that. :2 cents:

Yea... okay dude. Why didn't you just post this instead of sending me a PM:
http://i.imgur.com/LwXzN3Z.png

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Got that last night. Laughed. Reading it again. Laughing again.

Robert I thought about it: Please go ahead and sue.




Holy shit this got off topic fast. I'll give him that, Mr. Fucking Deflection King :2 cents:

johnnyloadproductions 06-06-2015 01:01 AM

This has been going on for over 1 1/2 years now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 20491650)

Holy shit this got off topic fast. I'll give him that, Mr. Fucking Deflection King :2 cents:

:error You started it in this thread...

with this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 20490999)
This is funny, considering the fact that you used CloudFlare for your little Copy Control Pty scam and defended them in the past when I pointed out that they harbor pirates... in fact you said:


I'll clear this up for everyone and point this out in a linear fashion so it is understood how this rivalry between the two of you started, which Markul utterly insists on instigating.

I don't have the PM saved anymore but I remember you commending the effort and donating money to the Copy Control campaign. Your opinion went polar opposite when he also started holding accountable ad networks, one of them was plugrush. You then send me a message which you threatened to even take legal action against Copy Control (which wouldn't have any ground anyway). I shared this with the copy control group.

AK is a good nature troll and when the original iteration of easyxsites/easyxblogs was taken down for revamp and a thread was made about it he simply made the comment
Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19900918)
Well if EasyXBlogs is going to be wiped then that will save me a bit of work reporting all the piracy blogs hosted there.

from: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...ing-sites.html

When I read that, I knew it was on and you were bated in.

Neither of you misses the chance to take a little potshot (AK hasn't done anything for well over 6 months to you), but you (Markul) go out of your way and seem to do so that doesn't segue well, even abusively.

Get over it.

Bladewire 06-06-2015 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 20491650)
You have no basis to say what you did and you know that the terms of my service clearly state that nothing of that sort is allowed.

:321GFY



Yea... okay dude. Why didn't you just post this instead of sending me a PM:
http://i.imgur.com/LwXzN3Z.png

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Got that last night. Laughed. Reading it again. Laughing again.

Robert I thought about it: Please go ahead and sue.




Holy shit this got off topic fast. I'll give him that, Mr. Fucking Deflection King :2 cents:

I made a mistake being an outspoken AK supporter in the past. I hope people can understand where I was coming from at the time.

I'm done with supporting anyone here publicly that can't give a simple thank you privately, reply to a PM or hit me up on Skype. It's litterally like remedial school.

All my public support for AK then he disappears only to resurface in a thread of mine being negative and unsuportive.

I still believe in fighting the good fight and supportibg eachother but not when ... fuck it. Retard school I'm done educating.

Ribbet Hog 06-06-2015 01:06 AM

Is GFY site nannyed out of alot of stuff?

Bladewire 06-06-2015 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 20491661)
This has been going on for over 1 1/2 years now.



:error You started it in this thread...

with this:




I'll clear this up for everyone and point this out in a linear fashion so it is understood how this rivalry between the two of you started, which Markul utterly insists on instigating.

I don't have the PM saved anymore but I remember you commending the effort and donating money to the Copy Control campaign. Your opinion went polar opposite when he also started holding accountable ad networks, one of them was plugrush. You then send me a message which you threatened to even take legal action against Copy Control (which wouldn't have any ground anyway). I shared this with the copy control group.

AK is a good nature troll and when the original iteration of easyxsites/easyxblogs was taken down for revamp and a thread was made about it he simply made the comment
from: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...ing-sites.html

When I read that, I knew it was on and you were bated in.

Neither of you misses the chance to take a little potshot (AK hasn't done anything for well over 6 months to you), but you (Markul) go out of your way and seem to do so that doesn't segue well, even abusively.

Get over it.

Actually he's not good a good natured troll. He's fairly arrogant, and takes for granted even his most outspoken supporters.

Markul 06-06-2015 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 20491661)
This has been going on for over 1 1/2 years now.

/.../

Neither of you misses the chance to take a little potshot (AK hasn't done anything for well over 6 months to you), but you (Markul) go out of your way and seem to do so that doesn't segue well, even abusively.

Get over it.

I knew it was only a matter of time before you'd be in here :thumbsup like clockwork :1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20491662)
I made a mistake being an outspoken AK supporter in the past. I hope people can understand where I was coming from at the time.

I'm done with supporting anyone here publicly that can't give a simple thank you privately, reply to a PM or hit me up on Skype. It's litterally like remedial school.

All my public support for AK then he disappears only to resurface in a thread of mine being negative and unsuportive.

I still believe in fighting the good fight and supportibg eachother but not when ... fuck it. Retard school I'm done educating.

Yea me too, I also supported him. Shame on me lol, but all of this started when I was asking questions about his methods and where this was going - then he started attacking me and never stopped.

So I am just returning the favor :2 cents:

brandonstills 06-06-2015 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by freecartoonporn (Post 20490921)
why people are using cloudflare ?, reverse proxy is nothing new , its just reverse proxy as a service.

I use them because they host common JavaScript and CSS frameworks for free and they are fast. Makes pages load faster. If some other site already used those common libraries my sites get to load them from the browser cache.


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