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Pseudonymous 06-10-2015 07:36 AM

Opinion on FHGs (which way is better)
 
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Which way of displaying the full sized photos do you like better, the slider or just linking directly to the jpg.

I seem to prefer this way instead of going to the jpg, pressing back, choosing another, etc, also at the end of the tour, you can make it lead right to the tour, if you chose to do so.

its also nice on the mobile.

Ive had a couple people say they dont prefer it, but maybe just because its not the standard way?

Captain Kawaii 06-10-2015 08:21 AM

Slider is very nice. I like it. Luckily the thumbs link directly to the thumbs so should be okay for tgp peeps. Gallery functions nicely for mobile and going to the tour is very natural. Nice work.

Robbie 06-10-2015 08:44 AM

Honestly...it doesn't matter.

Once you create the FHG's...who do you give them to? All the affiliates with tremendous amounts of traffic (like it used to be)?

Nope, you basically have 2 places that still has traffic: Freeones and The Hun.

All of our big TGP's are gone now. And tube sites have all the traffic (and it's shitty).

FHG's were at one time the lifeblood of this business. Now? I concentrate more on tube clips. Not long ones. But maybe 5 minutes max.

I wish that there was traffic again for our thousands of affiliates to have and send us sales...but it ain't there for galleries anymore. :(

CaptainHowdy 06-10-2015 08:44 AM

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freecartoonporn 06-10-2015 08:47 AM

you want real answer ?.

slider with on hover zoom specific part , so i can see her pussy lips clearly. and get off.

original picture is bigger , but in slider it gets smaller and cant see shit like that , but i like the slider part so add something which will make pic bigger while i am on it.

eg.
first one
jQuery Zoom

Pseudonymous 06-10-2015 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20495106)
Honestly...it doesn't matter.

Once you create the FHG's...who do you give them to? All the affiliates with tremendous amounts of traffic (like it used to be)?

Nope, you basically have 2 places that still has traffic: Freeones and The Hun.

All of our big TGP's are gone now. And tube sites have all the traffic (and it's shitty).

FHG's were at one time the lifeblood of this business. Now? I concentrate more on tube clips. Not long ones. But maybe 5 minutes max.

I wish that there was traffic again for our thousands of affiliates to have and send us sales...but it ain't there for galleries anymore. :(

Thats wrong, my last few launches, ive had 30-50 sales a day in the first week, 95 percent from affiliates. Affiliates are still a HUGE part of my program. You continuously give them stuff for years and dont miss a week, and they stay onboard. Especially when it sells

When you are in with the affiliates, and they jump onto each new site of yours, its a great thing, having all the remaining ones on your side is tough to do. Luckily when I got into solo, i had a few people who helped me out and I had a great model, which helped. There isn't nearly as many left but they also have left new good program owners giving them stuff so theyre excited when something new and good comes out. its still enough to take my sites to 300-500 active members a site

However affiliate sales do slow down after a while, as your models become well known and people just go back to your tour without going through affiliates or just google the models name and end up at at the tour. Either way affiliate sales always slow down when everybody already knows her (while organic sales rise), which makes it seem like affiliates dont do much but theyre the ones who get me to the place to begin with.

Pseudonymous 06-10-2015 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by freecartoonporn (Post 20495110)
you want real answer ?.

slider with on hover zoom specific part , so i can see her pussy lips clearly. and get off.

original picture is bigger , but in slider it gets smaller and cant see shit like that , but i like the slider part so add something which will make pic bigger while i am on it.

eg.
first one
jQuery Zoom

Good call, thanks! I will do that

Robbie 06-10-2015 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pseudonymous (Post 20495121)
Thats wrong, my last few launches, ive had 30-50 sales a day in the first week, 95 percent from affiliates. Affiliates are still a HUGE part of my program. You continuously give them stuff for years and dont miss a week, and they stay onboard. Especially when it sells

When you are in with the affiliates, and they jump onto each new site of yours, its a great thing, having all the remaining ones on your side is tough to do. Luckily when I got into solo, i had a few people who helped me out and I had a great model, which helped. There isn't nearly as many left but they also have left new good program owners giving them stuff so theyre excited when something new and good comes out. its still enough to take my sites to 300-500 active members a site

That sounds awesome! We have thousands of affiliates. And many of them USED to send 30 + sales a day each. But now? None of them have any traffic left.

Can you show me one free site left out there other than the Hun and Freeones and maybe 2 or 3 others that I'm forgetting who have traffic? It used to be THOUSANDS of sites with traffic sending sales. I know, because my partner and I used to have some pretty damn big TGP's.

Not asking for your affiliate "secrets" lol
Just asking...show me some sites that can post your hosted galleries and have tons of traffic like it used to be.

I would think those sites would be common knowledge if they existed. Simply because they would be popular sites. Right?

Pseudonymous 06-10-2015 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pseudonymous (Post 20495121)
Thats wrong, my last few launches, ive had 30-50 sales a day in the first week, 95 percent from affiliates. Affiliates are still a HUGE part of my program. You continuously give them stuff for years and dont miss a week, and they stay onboard. Especially when it sells

When you are in with the affiliates, and they jump onto each new site of yours, its a great thing, having all the remaining ones on your side is tough to do. Luckily when I got into solo, i had a few people who helped me out and I had a great model, which helped. There isn't nearly as many left but they also have left new good program owners giving them stuff so theyre excited when something new and good comes out. its still enough to take my sites to 300-500 active members a site

However affiliate sales do slow down after a while, as your models become well known and people just go back to your tour without going through affiliates or just google the models name and end up at at the tour. Either way affiliate sales always slow down when everybody already knows her (while organic sales rise), which makes it seem like affiliates dont do much but theyre the ones who get me to the place to begin with.

and to add to this post:

Regardless if they didn't send me alot (which they do), that type of attitude just sends you spiralling even quicker. Even if its worth an extra 5 percent, its worth doing beacuse if you had that attitude towards everything that adds 5 percent, you would end up doing none of them and your sales would drop a significant perentage. Doing every little thing you can do well is why my sites are still successful

I see that negative attitude with alot of people left in solo, who needs a good tour now, sales are lower, not even worth it, who needs fhgs now, its not even worth it, then they come out with something shitty and sales rreally suck and they say, i told you so. :/

Pseudonymous 06-10-2015 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20495140)
That sounds awesome! We have thousands of affiliates. And many of them USED to send 30 + sales a day each. But now? None of them have any traffic left.

Can you show me one free site left out there other than the Hun and Freeones and maybe 2 or 3 others that I'm forgetting who have traffic? It used to be THOUSANDS of sites with traffic sending sales. I know, because my partner and I used to have some pretty damn big TGP's.

Not asking for your affiliate "secrets" lol
Just asking...show me some sites that can post your hosted galleries and have tons of traffic like it used to be.

I would think those sites would be common knowledge if they existed. Simply because they would be popular sites. Right?

i didn't even build my program on the hun, that was before my solo program. and my sites have reached very high levels. freeones was only a powerhouse for myself in 2010, since then, they aren't a top affiliate. even then they weren't my very top

theres tons of big ones left, sites with 20,000-40,000 uniques daily and some more. all very very targeted traffic. i wont give all my sources but to name a few big ones. petiteteenager last time i checked, probably had 60,000 uniques a day atleast, nnconnect.com has 20-30k?, yourdailygirls is massive too (maybe 60-75k/day uniques? rough guess). review sites, etc.. i want to name others but im not doing the work for everybody, if youre involved in solo paysites, these are things you should know with little homework

but they wont send to any type of solo, just ones that fit into their style/niche. which is teen/college girl, tease, etc

those traffic numbers might not seem insane but those are ALL paying customers who sit there and wait for new great models, their conversion ratios are very good. and its as targeted as you can get, unlike thehun, freeones, etc and theres about 50 sites like that, while only 10-15 are regulars, the rest add up

Robbie 06-10-2015 09:24 AM

Got ya.

I was thinking more in terms of bigger sites. Hell, our TGP used to have 20,000 uniques in 30 minutes or less.

But yeah, I suppose if you have a ton of small sites like that in the teen niche sending you a sale every day or two...then it is worth it to you to do the FHG's

Good for you! I stand corrected. :)

Our "powerhouse" now is social media. Evolving and keeping up with things has been why we are still strong while so many others have fallen by the wayside.

Good to see that others are still in there too!

Pseudonymous 06-10-2015 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20495158)
Got ya.

I was thinking more in terms of bigger sites. Hell, our TGP used to have 20,000 uniques in 30 minutes or less.

But yeah, I suppose if you have a ton of small sites like that in the teen niche sending you a sale every day or two...then it is worth it to you to do the FHG's

Good for you! I stand corrected. :)

Alot of the real big ones dont send directly to the fhgs, its typically all the smaller ones who do, that add up. FHGs also end up with spots in google too. Another example of people who post fhgs, boards like peachyforum, freeones board and freeones model sections, then there are the countless message boards where fans just post links, when your model gets big enough, u'd be surprised how many places your stuff gets posted. They might not be affiliates, but every sale you get that is organic/google, could have very well seen a fhg of yours. Ive seen my fhgs posted on chive comments a ton after people asking who the model is. Not everything can be measured but one thing is for sure, my fhgs do get ALOT of traffic, so i know how many eyes are on it, and there is no way that many eyes aren't turned into sales. Launch a new site and then put analytics on your fhgs, you'd be amazed

The type of models most of solo works with, have content thats very sharable as theyre a similar age of general social media users, so they end up on social media, celebrity gossip sites, everywhere, hell there are facebook pages just posting my fhgs over and over.

Anyway i think it all adds up.

Tom_PM 06-10-2015 09:33 AM

If it were me, and it's not, I would not even bother with anything. Just link to the full sized image. Whenever I look at an FHG, I will always, always, always without fail open the actual full sized picture in an actual new tab by itself. If I want to zoom in I can hit ctrl-+. If I want to save I can right click and save. If an FHG prevents it, then fuck them I will search Google for the model and find everything I want with no ads at all.

So I figure, why bulk up the code and complicate things? Unless it helps a large segment of your viewers then it's a waste of time.. if you ask me. But that's just me. Try a poll on some actual galleries.

Pseudonymous 06-10-2015 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom_PM (Post 20495169)
If it were me, and it's not, I would not even bother with anything. Just link to the full sized image. Whenever I look at an FHG, I will always, always, always without fail open the actual full sized picture in an actual new tab by itself. If I want to zoom in I can hit ctrl-+. If I want to save I can right click and save. If an FHG prevents it, then fuck them I will search Google for the model and find everything I want with no ads at all.

So I figure, why bulk up the code and complicate things? Unless it helps a large segment of your viewers then it's a waste of time.. if you ask me. But that's just me. Try a poll on some actual galleries.

Well if the previewer could show both full size and smaller view, its nothing but more convenient no? the next image link is right there, instead of going back, reselecting a new image and making it big again

as of right now, i can understand your point but if it was done like the previous poster (freecartoonporn) mentioned


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