Working on traffic trading sites
 

I am planning to start working on traffic trading sites. What tips could you give me, and what would you recommend, as far as these:

a) SmartCj (it will be probably my choice)
b) Smart Thumbs + Trade Pulse
c) Smart Thumbs + Trade Expert (this one seems to be good and popular, I am not sure, but maybe because of only 1.5% traffic skim in free version, which is less than 2% in Trade Pulse)

I would consider TGPX, but this one is no longer fully supported and live, so I would not want to use it, I think. I don't want to use the new TGP script from MechBunny too, for this, at this point. There is other TGP scripts, also, but Smart Thumbs is, by far, the most popular one, and it should be the best choice.

So, to sum it up. What tips could I get from you, and would you go with Smart Cj, or Smart Thumbs, and if so, would I go for Trade Expert, or Trade Pulse, or maybe some kind of other traffic trading script too?

Smart Thumb + Trade Expert (paid version)

A theoretical question, related to this - Lets say there is 100 sites with 100 unique visitors to each (not from trades). This would be 100 sites, and 10,000 unique visitors a day (again, not from trades, only direct traffic, search, referrals, and everything else).

With this:

a) How much additional daily traffic can I generate with traffic trades, approximately. Cam I double or even triple it, lets say (100 sites, 30,000 visits a day),
b) What would be the best methods of monetizing this theoretical 30k daily visitors, besides affiliate sales (adult paysites, could be other xxx offers too). I guess I could add something like an instant message, and banner ads. Would popunders work on something like this, or would they have too much of a negative effect on the tgp sites (so it would not be good to use it).

Thanks.

You might also wanna checkout Arrow Trader, Crystal Trader and Progress Trade Manager.

I use TGPX and its free now thanks to the community upgrades. Personally I like it better than Smart Thumbs but Comus (Paid) was the best out of all 3.

Yeah you can double or even triple it providing

1. Site Design and Content gives high productivity (low productivity traffic isn't good for trading).
2. Site speed is critical (better be on a great dedicated if you want beyond 30k uniques).
3. To monetize you would probably want to sell some of your extra traffic (see sig). No you wouldn't want to use popunders (atleast not on your main page), no one would want to trade with you.

Just wanted to add, Arrow takes 1%, and Progress TM only take 0.8%.:thumbsup


Dunno, what tips do you need?
:winkwink:

1) I know TGPX. I had it installed a couple of years ago, and I was getting some php errors, but I was able to fix it, I think. TGPX is better, because there is more control over how thumb galleries display, and possibly other things too. With TGPX you can add new galleries on the top of the main page, every day, and it is not possible with Smart Thumbs. This is how a website like this should work, I think, and this is how tubes work (ie. beeg.com, DansMovies.com). People go to these sites, every day, or even several times a day, and they want to see new content, on the top. This is how you can get bookmark traffic, and this can be better than traffic from search or other sources, I think.

2) It looks like ComusThumbs.com is still available, also as a paid version. I've never really heard of it, and I need to check it out. Another thing with Smart Thumbs is, that they now offer one admin and multiple websites version (just like Mech Bunny tube script), which may be good. I've never tried it, so I am not sure. It can make working on the sites, a lot faster, I think.

1) Lets say, I set up a site, get good design (ie. YoungLeafs.com, and add some kind of content, towards the top of the site, every day. After that, I set up some trades, and with this, what would be the best way to do that? Looking at YoungLeafs.com, as an example, they have 4 columns and 10 rows of thumbs in a section, lets say. What amount of clicks on this section, would be optimal for traffic trades? All clicks, 100%? Probably not. Settle at 50%, and see how it goes. Maybe even less. Test things out, and look at the stats? I've never really worked on a network of tgp or traffic trading sites, so I am not sure how to start this part. Would traffic trading setup look the same on the entire site? More galleries towards the bottom of the site, other pages of the site? I am not sure if all aspects of what I've asked about make sense, but in general, I am wondering, what are the good rules of setting up traffic trading.

2) As far as I understand, I don't want too many ads. I can have some ads, but it is the best to use it with moderation, so any of the websites, does not look like spam. This is how the best and the biggest sites do it anyway, they never have too many ads, as it probably does a lot more bad than good (traffic drops, and overall income level gets lower, because of this). Banner ads from something like ero-advertising.com or exoclick.com, should be ok, and not much more than this. I can probably add links to live cams, dating, some other types of adult sites, on the top of the websites (or somewhere else), and this could generate some small additional income, over time too. What would be the other elements of making everything work, and generating good financial results?

3) As far as I understand, I would be looking at the numbers / stats, associated with trading, like productivity, and other things. How would this part work?

4) Lets say, I have 50 tgp domains, very good (good design, worked on, everything set up very good). How much a network of 50 sites like this can make per month? As far as I understand, selling traffic to places like TrafficHolder.com, and TrafficShop.com, would be the main source of income, from the sites. Is it possible to set everything up, take some time to update the existing sites, and keep expanding to 100, 200, and maybe even more, and still making more $$$. It sounds like it should be doable, but it may be not as easy, in reality, I think. Sites like this would be a very good source of backlinks too, over time.

The main difference between Comus and TGPX is:

TGPX can only setup thumbs by the table. You can cheat and do 1x1 tables for customization but gets tedious and will probably cause problems on some designs.

Comus can customize macros per thumb. Big thumb, small thumb, new, best, random, etc thumbs can go basically anywhere in your design.

Hi xFoundry,

We have many webmaster who use our parking system to generate traffic. Is a landing page with all your site included and showing related searches from your network. Because each link is relevant google seems to like it.

Is just place our search technology on a page and google does the rest. (it has a lot of extra options like android search App, traffic exchange based on search and all search info from your visitors that can be used for adding unique text)

Include your parked domains now in mySearchTRAFFIC! | mySearchTRAFFIC.com

I wrote a guide about this 11 years ago still up to this day. Most of the links are gone but the concepts are still about the same.
https://gfy.com/webmaster-q-and-fucki...ermediate.html

2. I wouldn't even put any banner ads, maybe one or two text links on the main page. Usually you would want to get the visitor into your FHG first, second a Trade, third if there still around FHG again and so on. You could also send every third click to your chaturbate account or sell the traffic. You could change the order of any of these or even put percentages on the action. Too much blind linking will destroy your traffic quality though. Some people get by with just 100% to gallery and trade with toplists it all depends on you.

3. Depending on your setup, skim and toplist. Find trades of the same niche as your website, send them traffic, if they return productive traffic trade with them. If not drop them, keep doing this until stability is established and growth is progressive.

4. Yeah, I see a lot of companies doing entire networks of TGP sites which trade with each other, and also cover multiple categories.You probably won't have to update too often if you use sponsor galleries, but if taking submissions could get very time consuming for multiple sites. Once you build a TGP that has a few thousand galleries, stable trades, stable income it'll run itself and you can wash rinse repeat increasing income.

Thanks for the info! I went over your tutorial now. Do you still work on traffic trading sites? How much daily traffic do you have? I've been talking to a person with around 100k per day. I am not working on this right now, as I am doing something else, but I am planning to, after I am done (this may be 12 moths or more, though).

Does going with SmartCj.com script, and nothing else, sounds like a good choice, or would it be better to at least try several of them, and see how things go... The reasoning here would be, that free versions of scripts skim traffic, and if I would get into the SmartCj.com one, I would not have to pay twice, for paid version (buy script license, and a traffic trading script license, as a separate thing).

I wanted to work on live cameras and dating, but I was kind of suggested to work on traffic trading sites. If I can a) get a domain, b) set up a site (I don't mind working on it, or investing some $$$ in the design), c) get it to the point where it makes some kind of income on the regular basis, d) and build up on that (keep expanding), this would be a perfect thing. I could put the traffic trading sites on something like seo hosting (different ips from different countries / locations), and use it as a source of backlinks to cams and dating too...

Edit:
Based on experience, TGPX + paid versions of Trade Expert, sounds like it could be good too... I am not sure about TGPX though, because it is not updated, and old. It may not be the best long-term choice.

As far as the tgp / traffic trading sites, I think that updating galleries on a daily basis, is an important thing. I would like to have something like:

Today's galleries:
- - - - - - - - - - -
Yesterday's galleries:
- - - - - - - - - - -
"Older" galleries:
- - - - - - - - - - -

and keep moving the thumbs one section down, every day. This is how the best traffic trading sites worked in the past, I think. This is not the most important thing, and it is just one aspect of this, but I think that it can make quite a lot of a difference. And, in general, as far as I remember, something like this is not possible with Smart Thumbs. Is there any other script, which does something like this, and it is not outdated / old (not updated / website down)?

It would be better to just try different combinations of scripts and see what works for you. I personally don't like the newer traffic trading scripts and prefer the older ones such as Traffic Manager 3 and Arrow Trader.

To be honest many sites (TGP with skim) in the past using Todays, Yesterday, etc were really updating every 5-15 minutes. Real use of today, yesterday, galleries is usually used by non skim TGPs (you won't get many bookmarkers skimming or blind linking surfers).

With the goal of generating the most productive clicks you don't want to keep starting over everyday. You want the most historically productive thumbs at the top going all the way down with strategically placed new thumbs with everything updating every 5 minutes to keep content updated and fresh. That type of design gives you the most productive site that adapts to your visitors.

@pornstarlet-net - I am not able to pm you, even though I made 100 posts (How does it work, by the way?). Can you give me your email, or pm it, if you can. We can probably do some info exchange (I do it with a lot of people, I know a lot about all this, by now, too).

Thanks.

in order to trade traffic, you need to have traffic in the first place

you can try Stream Rotator+Crystal Trader script, it's working like a charm :thumbsup

A lot of people start something like this, with just buying, from places like:

- TrafficHolder.com
- TrafficShop.com, or
- AvaTraffic.com

TGPX at github.com

Are there any people familiar and working on TGPX, currently / new sites? I mean, would you say it is ok to invest time in the above software, with a perspective of 5 or 10 years? I know that TGPX is good, probably the best. How does this work and look, these days?

Thanks.

I was wondering about one more thing, regarding this. I would like to make websites of very good quality, as a longer-term investment, and graphic designs with cost some money, in order to do it good. What would be the difference, between setting up 5, 10, or 50 separate websites, lets say. I guess I can attempt to work on the level of 25,000 daily traffic, and this can go to one or 50 sites at the same time, theoretically. More domains will pick up more traffic from search, and some other places, but it wont be a lot. So what would be the difference between working on 5 and 50 separate websites, and what is a good number of sites, as far as staring a network of tgps.

Related to this, how many niches should I target, and how would I select that. I guess I could look at numbers from AdWords Keyword Tool, and decide, based on that (this should be the best way to go, I think). See whats popular, and what the competition is. Something like this is not difficult to do, and I know how to get a good and fairly fast overview of the adult niche.

So, how many websites should I start, is 10 ok? How many niches should I target, with this? Would I stick to one, or target 10 separate ones?

Start one and grow from there. You won't be able to do 10 if you can't do 1.

Watch this tutorial:


At the moment you're that guy wearing the blue shirt in the bleachers.

a) It's going to depend on you and your traders. It's probably going to be very hard to find good trades these days so I wouldn't get your hope up on growing your traffic too much by trading.

To be brutally honest I doubt this will work out very well for you. It might have in 2008 but times are different and even if you get past that you have a lot to learn. Good luck though if you try. I'm not trying to be an ass, just honest.

Yeah. Start with one. Start with the niche you know the most about or the one you think is going to do the best. Give it at least a month to see what you are dealing with and if you'd like to continue.

So, what could be a general model of starting a SmartCj.com (lets say) site, and expanding it into a network, later on?

1) Get good and inexpensive hosting, could be something like a VPS from ovh.com, for $36 per year.

2) Select a niche. With this, should I focus on just one niche or several niches, or just work on anything that I may want?

3) Get a good domain name, install SmartCj.com on it, and get a good logo / branding / graphic design.

4) Add content to the site. Link to picture and video galleries, and so on.

5) Find trade partners, and set up trades. How would this part work? How many trade partners do I need to begin with, and are there any limits (like 10 trade domains per domain is ok, or I can have 100, how does this work?)? Then how do I trade traffic. It is described in the tutorial that was mentioned in this thread, but would it be something like every other click, every third click, every fourth click, what is the best here?

6) Buy traffic from one of the places like TrafficHolder.com, TrafficShop.com, or AvaTraffic.com, and measure the productivity of the trades, as mentioned in the tutorial, which was mentioned above. Keep the good trades, drop the bad ones, probably look for more good. Also, probably look, and take into consideration all other stats and data that are shown within the admin of the SmartCj.com script.
With this, how much traffic should I buy per day, and this questions assumes that I already have a certain amount of trade partners set up. It sounds like 1,000 is ok per day, but maybe more, or maybe less, and try several traffic brokering places? How would this part work. And, I am assuming, that I wont be buying traffic every day. This may be once every seven days, or once per month, maybe.

7) What do I do next, what are the other steps and factors, before going to step 8:

8) Setting up another SmartCj.com site, and work on it based on the rules, above.

I guess the goal would be to set up certain amount of sites (what target number of sites is good?) and grow them with traffic trading without spending excessive amounts of money for traffic from brokers, to begin with. Traffic productivity would be one of the factors here, the higher the productivity, the better the results, so I would be looking for high productivity traffic, at a low price lets say. I may be trying to get traffic through regular social media marketing, seo, and referral traffic too, also direct traffic, as websites are planned to be attractive / good.

So:

1) Find good quality traffic, at a good price.
2) Make websites look good, and attractive to visitors. Make them valuable to them, so they come back, possibly...

I mean, what are the factors, and rules of getting everything to work, meaning growing it. Working on this and generating larger numbers of daily traffic, over time.

Lets say I want to target 100,000 daily traffic over time. How many target domains does it sound like to you? Would I achieve that with 50 websites, maybe 100, or more. How does this part work?

Read this + view the video + work.


Stop asking yourself questions and just do something. Whatever it is. If it doesn't work, try something else. If you're stuck ask questions.

You won't get anywhere without putting time on it.

I am not sure if somebody could give me this info, but how something like this would look? Lets say I want to achieve 100,000 daily traffic on the traffic trading domains. How would I plan it, and execute this plan, in the shortest possible amount of time?

a) What would be the factors, which would help in achieving this fast, and doing it good, overall
b) How many domains would I create for something like this, as far as planning
c) How many trade partners would I target per domain?
d) Would I trade traffic with my own sites?
e) how would I structure the network of this sites? Would they all be the same, or would I try to shape it in some kind of pyramid, lets say, with the busiest site on the top.

What are the do's and don't of traffic trading / SmartCj.com sites? And again, any kind of advice, which would contribute to better results, would be very good.

Thanks.

xFoundry,

if you like to test something with domains to get traffic contact me on Skype so i can show you something that works for a lot of sites.

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