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wehateporn 07-23-2015 05:30 AM

More Than 22,000 Brave Nurses Refusing to Submit to Mandatory Vaccinations
 

Despite a CDC study that found mandatory vaccines for nurses offer no protection for patients, hospitals are pushing hard for forced vaccinations. Many nurses are choosing to lose their jobs rather than submit to forced mandatory flu vaccinations, and one has even sued the hospital, state, and federal governments for $100,000,000.

(End All Disease) Nurses against Mandatory Vaccines (NAMV) was founded and formed by our CEO became alarmed when mandatory vaccination policies were being introduced into workplaces, and there seemed to be no rhyme or reason. First and foremost, NAMV is not anti-vaccine, but pro-choice when it comes to vaccination. We believe that all persons should have the right to choose and refuse medical treatment; that means nurses and healthcare workers alike.

Continued More Than 22,000 Brave Nurses Refusing to Submit to Mandatory Vaccinations » The Event Chronicle

geedub 07-23-2015 05:58 AM

My cousin was told he needed a flu shot or would be forced to resign.. He's a radiologist.. Some things I understand but a flu shot, cmon.

Barry-xlovecam 07-23-2015 06:13 AM

Statistical Risk of Suffering a Severe Case of Vaccine-Preventable Disease | The S File ? -- Health

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In summary:

The risk of a reaction from a single vaccine seems to be about 1 in 100,000. The risk that any one child will suffer a severe reaction over the entire twelve-year vaccine schedule is about 1 in 2600.
The risk of any one person suffering a severe case of a vaccine-preventable disease each year in our entire population is about 1 in 1500.
The risk of a child having a severe case of a vaccine-preventable disease is about 1 in 600 each year for all childhood diseases grouped together. This risk varies widely depending on the disease. Some disease risks are close to 0. Infant diseases are more risky than childhood ones.
We don?t know the exact number of serious vaccine reactions, as many are likely to go unreported or are not recognized. We also don?t know how to factor in possible long-term, hidden effects of vaccines. If we someday can learn these numbers, the known vaccine risk may increase.
So we come back to our original question: Are vaccines safe? Yes. Do they have severe side effects? yes. Are these severe side effects common? Not very. Is vaccinating to protect against all these diseases worth the risk of side effects? That?s the million-dollar question.
Your chances of contracting a secondary disease of infection from hospitalizations or even from visits to busy doctor's offices and clinics are pretty good -- less than 1:300? if you count common colds, etc ... Safest thing is to go live in a cave in sackcloth:2 cents:

CaptainHowdy 07-23-2015 06:32 AM

Ok .........

wehateporn 07-23-2015 06:33 AM

Thanks for the link, it's good to see honest sites like this admitting that the risk of vaccines is unknown because it's unreported and unstudied, so hence they are simply shots in the dark, a game of vaccine roulette :thumbsup

"We don?t know the exact number of serious vaccine reactions, as many are likely to go unreported or are not recognized. We also don?t know how to factor in possible long-term, hidden effects of vaccines. If we someday can learn these numbers, the known vaccine risk may increase."

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20531306)
Statistical Risk of Suffering a Severe Case of Vaccine-Preventable Disease | The S File ? -- Health



Your chances of contracting a secondary disease of infection from hospitalizations or even from visits to busy doctor's offices and clinics are pretty good -- less than 1:300? if you count common colds, etc ... Safest thing is to go live in a cave in sackcloth:2 cents:


michael.kickass 07-23-2015 06:36 AM

Congratz to them, no one should be forced to do anything against his will.

Threatening them to lose their jobs is just plain pathetic.

ruff 07-23-2015 06:37 AM

Better living through chemistry. Nothing wrong with a flu shot. Is everybody looking to go back to the dark ages? Get some goddamn knowledge on the subject first.

PR_Glen 07-23-2015 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ruff (Post 20531335)
Better living through chemistry. Nothing wrong with a flu shot. Is everybody looking to go back to the dark ages? Get some goddamn knowledge on the subject first.

hey, i hate anti vaxxors more than anyone but the 'knowledge' involved with flu shots is random at best. For the most part they are very ineffective and having to take them often is a bit much.

pornmasta 07-23-2015 06:52 AM

It looks kind of irresponsible to me

ruff 07-23-2015 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20531342)
hey, i hate anti vaxxors more than anyone but the 'knowledge' involved with flu shots is random at best. For the most part they are very ineffective and having to take them often is a bit much.

Where do you get your information? Flu shots are extremely effective and have been for years. This is documented. So don't take any, nobody is making any of you take vaccines. Health care workers are sometimes required to take them. They know this up front. If they don't like it they can get another job. Ebola shows up in your neighborhood, you'll be first in line for a vaccine.

takethebluepill 07-23-2015 08:45 AM

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aka123 07-23-2015 08:49 AM

""We really don't have a good grip on the epidemiology of influenza in the healthcare setting," Kelley said.

Still, it?s clear that vaccination is the best strategy to minimize getting flu, he said. "It makes sense to vaccinate healthcare personnel. The evidence is just not as strong as most organization like to suggest, which this study highlights."

"It's the best intervention we currently have, so we need to keep using it while working toward a better flu vaccine," Kelley said."

Analysis finds limited evidence for HCW flu vaccination | CIDRAP

czarina 07-23-2015 08:50 AM

I agree with their position. I wouldn't let my employer dictate which vaccines I put into my body.

aka123 07-23-2015 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by czarina (Post 20531450)
I agree with their position. I wouldn't let my employer dictate which vaccines I put into my body.

The job position dictates that. If you are secretary with the same employer, I am quite sure that there is no regulation about your vaccination.

Those nurses have known very well the requirements of the job.

aka123 07-23-2015 09:40 AM

About those brave nurses, can I ask why they do that? They probably still take the other required vaccines, right? Is it really worth it to lose a job for a flu shot? They most likely give the same shots for their patients. At least in here they do.

That is a bit like "Brave porn webmasters against porn. Yeah, take from that bitches!" :)

MrBottomTooth 07-23-2015 09:41 AM

I have to put up with this crap too. (Not a nurse but work in health care). Our employees are given the option not to take it, but if they don't take it and they get the flu they either have to take Tamiflu pills, or stay away from work for 2 weeks. Most people can't afford to miss work for 2 weeks so about 90% of them get it.

aka123 07-23-2015 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 20531500)
I have to put up with this crap too. (Not a nurse but work in health care). Our employees are given the option not to take it, but if they don't take it and they get the flu they either have to take Tamiflu pills, or stay away from work for 2 weeks. Most people can't afford to miss work for 2 weeks so about 90% of them get it.

It is crap that you can't work as a sick in health care?

Jman 07-23-2015 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ruff (Post 20531417)
Where do you get your information? Flu shots are extremely effective and have been for years. This is documented. So don't take any, nobody is making any of you take vaccines. Health care workers are sometimes required to take them. They know this up front. If they don't like it they can get another job. Ebola shows up in your neighborhood, you'll be first in line for a vaccine.

Last year flu shot in Quebec WAS NOT effective and that was announced and documented by actual doctors.

Medscape: Medscape Access

Another Epic Fail for Influenza Vaccine

Ask google and you will get more documentation

ruff 07-23-2015 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jman (Post 20531522)
Last year flu shot in Quebec WAS NOT effective and that was announced and documented by actual doctors.

Medscape: Medscape Access

Another Epic Fail for Influenza Vaccine

Ask google and you will get more documentation

Do you know why the flu shot was not effective? Because the virus mutated so fast that the shot was NOT as effective. Don't take a flu shot, who cares? Do you think vaccines cause autism? Did you get a polio shot? You can't even go to school in the US without required vaccination shots. Flu vaccine is the least of your worries. You're either in or your out.

MrBottomTooth 07-23-2015 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20531513)
It is crap that you can't work as a sick in health care?

It's crap that you're forced to take this poison or be forced away from work for 2 weeks. If some people miss 2 weeks of work unexpectedly they'd probably miss a mortgage payment. The norm when you're sick is to miss a few days at most and collect your sick pay. Not be forced out of work for 2 weeks straight which is ridiculous.

Also I forgot to mention if our facility is declared a flu outbreak (that's at least 2 people with the same symptoms), then the same rules apply. Either take Tamiflu or miss 2 weeks of work if you haven't had your flu shot . The most pathetic thing is I can't remember the last time they got the flu strain right. The shit they pump into us is completely useless more often than not.

Here's this year's great success.

Flu shots given in Ontario almost a complete mismatch to dominant strain of the virus this year

wehateporn 07-23-2015 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 20531641)

Either take Tamiflu or miss 2 weeks of work if you haven't had your flu shot . The most pathetic thing is I can't remember the last time they got the flu strain right. The shit they pump into us is completely useless more often than not.

Really strange that they're still pushing Tamiflu given that it's been admitted it doesn't work

What the Tamiflu saga tells us about drug trials and big pharma | Business | The Guardian

aka123 07-23-2015 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 20531641)
The norm when you're sick is to miss a few days at most and collect your sick pay. Not be forced out of work for 2 weeks straight which is ridiculous.

Is few days enough to make you not contagious? As the issue in here is not about you being able to work, the issue is that you don't spread it around.

MrBottomTooth 07-23-2015 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20531660)
Is few days enough to make you not contagious? As the issue in here is not about you being able to work, the issue is that you don't spread it around.

It's normally contagious for as long as 5 days maximum after first symptoms show, which will be within 48 hours. So the 2 weeks is longer than necessary. But the main point is the shit barely works anyway. Give it out for free to the people that want it. If they want to force it on the health care employees then I guess it should also be forced onto the people they are trying to protect like nursing home residents. Strangely enough it's illegal to force it on them unless they consent.

MiamiBoyz 07-23-2015 01:32 PM

You just KNOW those nurses are fucking each other with strap on dildos when they should be helping to prevent disease!

What a shameful disgrace to the uniform indeed!

celandina 07-23-2015 02:25 PM

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Right on !!

Belongs right in with the with the "Flat Earth Society" folks and those who want Trump as a President.:thumbsup


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