TheButch is a fucking low ass scammer
 

He fucked me over and got paypal to believe it. Brought it to his board and then when i wanted to post our icq history he deleted it because it showed he was fucking lying .

Do not do any business with him he is a fucking scammer , i gave him a chance after reading enough threads about him, but a few of the people said he was ok so i went with it.

Never promote on his board, even if the deals looks so great. He has nothing but a board that does not generate any traffic or sales. Also not when he says he is going to push clients to you.

I was just too stupid to fall for it.

:321GFY

How much have U Paid him?
if You paid via PAYPAL Simply report it or make unauthorizted transcation and all Your funds will return with no iusse :-)

Give much details to understand better and U Should Banned him from Gfy.com
reported him to Erik

the deal was not done here. the whole story is a trip. :2 cents::2 cents:

I thought everyone knew his board is a scam

this is true

So.. What happened?

well, he offered me a deal part money 250 and 10% he would get us the lead personally from all those who would contact him for hosting. however even after he said he would refund the money if we wouldn't be happy and after the first week no sign of any leads, week two non, i started asking him also if we would get a banner, he said no. I said but there are no leads being send in from his board or form which he is using to collect clients for us. He told me to wait till the end of the months and i would be happy. Well to keep this short it never happened.

I did try to get it back from paypal, they said he did give me what i ordered, even when i showed them our conversation on icq. I will phone them tomorrow and see why they decided against me.

However the 250 is not even that much of a problem but it is just a guy that needs to be stopped.

GTFO with that shit. Anyone who's been around long enuff knows the deal with him. Be fucking real :2 cents:

He would be if people stopped giving him money.

Apparently you have been on this board since 2008, surely you know how to use the search function.

clueless!! search the op

Crazy that this guy can be doing the same shit for over ten years and people continue to fall for it

With regards to paypal, they're probably stating you had a month of advertising, the service you paid for.

If this is the case, you want to argue to paypal, the service agreed was traffic. You can prove you did not receive, using your stats, proving no traffic was sent from his forum :thumbsup

Good luck

do a chargeback then :)

:pimp :pimp :pimp

good luck

well i have read the post, but some one at the office said maybe you have give a change because some well know people on this board and on icq said they did ok biz with him.

I cant charge it back because it was not done with my cc sadly.

After i paid him he started that he needed another 250 to buy a domain because he didn't wanted to wait for the money from his own bank account. I didn't fall for that and it was also the point i knew there was something wrong and i started asking questions.

I have been in this industry since 2002 so yeah i should have known better. But i know people can change, however this is one guy who will always be a scammer.

Juan I love how you twist the story and want to be the victim, I'll spend a couple of minutes one time reply to your accusations. Just to set the record straight.

How many hosts threaten people physically and also to take down their server with
attacks?
You did that.



You bought my bare minimum ad deal which basically allowed you to spam 1 thread in the mainchat on my board. I do not allow any commercial spam om my board since 2010. 5 years if that is hard to calculate. You were posting there as agreed, the day you contacting pp asking for a refund for non-delivery of the agreed ads you were posting on the very same thread.

I sold you ad space, you got ad space as agreed, I even posted on the very thread your antics, and said I would leave the ads as agreed until July 31st, I could have deleted your thread, but i did not play your silly games.

When you started whining and bitching about the response I told you multiple times, your prices are not enticing major action, and you told me you would drop them and promote the specials. That is not the issue, you got what you paid for.

You went ahead tried to charge back basically with PP and they saw exactly the truth, you paid for exposure you got exposure.

Then the minute you realized PP was not going to side with you for a bogus claim you came to this forum started this thread.

And on top of that you icqed me and threatened me physically and my server.

Here is the ICQ logs, all this has been posted on the very thread you paid for exposure dude.

""Web Fun
12:00 you fucked me and you know it. never set a step in europe or i will fucking hunt you down you piece of shit.

TheButcher
12:00 This sounds like a threat
Web Fun
12:00 it is a threat

TheButcher
12:01 I told you all the time, I will extend the ads, you went tried to be screw me with paypal, even when you did that I left your ads up till the last day.
12:01 Now go fuck off leave me alone
Web Fun
12:01 go fuck your self before i bomb you server into othing you piece of shit, i will fuck you on anny forum out there if i see you.

TheButcher
12:02 get lost, and stop contacting me.
Web Fun
12:02 you do not decide fucker. rot in hell.

TheButcher
12:03 blocking you and posting this convo on the board, since you are not a reasonable man, you are a sour loser and you just threatened me. Talk to your self from now on, I blocked you.""

Now I suggest you grow up, stop acting like a little piece of shit, take it like a man, realize what you paid for you got and what you offered webmasters was not driving them to switch their hosting to.


You bought ad space, you got it, you cried like a baby to PP they said sorry ads were delivered.

PS making physical threats and threats to down a server are a crime in my country, not sure where you are but your IP's have been logged so you might want to re-think your threats, it might not be good to carry them out.

You buy ad space, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't depending on the service and price you are offering. You had over 800 clicked hits to your ad space in 30 days from what I have logged. Maybe you need to rethink your hosting business and change the packages and prices to make sales, that is your problem not mine.
I delivered exactly what you paid for, it is right there on my board, but since you acted like a little bitch I banned you on July 31st when the ad s you paid for were over.

a great day.

I am particularly impressed that you have servers in the middle of the ocean.

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On another note, your pricing is expensive and it's not clear what makes your services "cloud hosting". Perhaps you'd like to clarify that.

Two different stories

yep i know a part of this story. i will stay out of it tho

I love this thread, a guy pays for a thread he gets it and he tries to charge back, Paypal says no way Jose, and he calls me out for delivering exactly what I sold him. It is hilarious.

Please research the facts before making assumptions. When you pay for a thread on a webmaster forum to add your announcements/news/spam, that is what you got. A thread where you can post your hosting offers when no other commercial spam is allowed. You do not buy a thread on a non-spam forum for traffic or expect a mass exodus of hosting clients. It is called exposure and brand awareness.

Just the same as when Visa, Mastercard, Pepsi, Coke pay for sponsoring a sporting event, they do it for the exposure and name recognition they don't expect people to stop watching the event and run out buy their product or service.

He paid for a thread and he got that thread till the very last minute he had paid for it.

If you promote a service for example a hosting business and people seeing your thread do not find the prices, services or whatever to their liking, they will not sign up, but you still got your company name in front of webmasters.

You really should follow the original thread to see how the thing played out.

Laters

So TheButcher - This was never said?..

You got that right, I did however offer to extend his ads to keep a first time advertiser happy. His reply was something to the effect of "No Paypal will reverse the ad money." I could quote him but not on icq right now to do a search of the past chat convo.

Another classic GFY case of Tard on Tard Crime

Fucking hilarious!

back to business

Guy is pissed he got to advertise his site and didn't get any sales...
Yeah? Join the club.. You got what you paid for and nobody was interested.

TheButcher is a known hunk of shit scammer. He has been from the beginning.
:2 cents:

How many legit views on that thread?

The OP never replied to this thread.

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...companies.html

The OP also claims the board he advertised on had no traffic, if that's true that is something he could have easily determined before agreeing to advertise.

Sounds like a case of a fool and his money imho.

Dave it is funny how you only post parts of the conversation you find good for your image. Your lucky i deleted your ass from icq so i can't find where my histroy is saved, but when i find it i will post it. However this is a part of the log i posted to paypal and it clearly says the deal with something different than an thread deal. I would never agree to a thread deal for 250 or 500 dollar. Are you out of your mind. That is 250 for a thread that is sticky for just two days. No adult board is that good for business.

.TheButcher Jun 30 at 19:37 can you please put me intouch with who ever runs their sales I want to work out a deal with themthanksWeb Fun Jun 30 at 19:38 Well i do a lot of their sales, depending on what it is you would like to make a deal about ��TheButcher Jun 30 at 19:38 I am looking for a host to hok up with to push a lot of new clients and make some money off itHere is what I run, Web Fun Jun 30 at 19:38 Ok TheButcher Jun 30 at 19:38 the 2nd largest adult webmasters board for 11 yearsno spam, no announcemnets, I drive all business to my advertisersWeb Fun Jun 30 at 19:39 right TheButcher Jun 30 at 19:39 have 2 spots open out of 70 spotsWeb Fun Jun 30 at 19:39 sponsor chat right?TheButcher Jun 30 at 19:39 wnat to make some money off the spot with a hostyes that's me what I want is a 1 time ref fee off every new server clientand in return i discount my ad packge by 50%becasue of the 70 ad spots I have 1 bottom banner one openWeb Fun Jun 30 at 19:40 How large is the ref fee you have in mind and how much the package price. TheButcher Jun 30 at 19:40 and 2 of the base packageI want 10% off the first month of the initial order no matter the size of the server deal they make and 50% of my ad packageyes it might cost them a lotmore than $500 a monthbut they get serious bsuienss for $250 up front and 10%have a look at the mainchat matethere is no spam, no one can join start posting until one of my 3 admins or me approves their first post in the introductions threadso that way no one slips in spams wheile there is no admin or me onlineand I have close to 71,000 registered (verified) usersWeb Fun Jun 30 at 19:42 Ok, 250 and 10%, i going to take that to the next meeting tomorrow and see what we can do with this. TheButcher Jun 30 at 19:43 I cna dribve a lot of new server

Where are those clients you are talking about, there was non. When i find the rest of the history i will post more.

At least here you can delete it Dave you piece of shit.

C:/Documents and Settings/(your username)/Application Data/ICQ/(your ICQ number)

Dude manages people's servers... can't find icq logs on his own computer. Makes sense

DYOR is worth mentioning here. Also, whatever program you have to generate tags on here is shit.

By the way if you post on TheButcher's shitty board and used the same username and password as GFY you might want to change it. The last time TheButcher was called out for his scams he posted in the thread under hacked GFY usernames to try and make it look like people defending him, and he was able to post under those usernames because they used the same passwords as his board...

oh there's more :2 cents::2 cents:

You sir are one stupid idiot.

First of all I am having a blast with this thread because the OP is not the smartest apple in the barrel, as you can tell I don't often post on any other board unless it gives me a good laugh.

Second I am not into wasting my time posting with other nicks because I have better things to do with my life.

Third if you had a clue about VBulletin you would know the admins can not see passwords. That's why when someone on my board asks me to give them their password I tell them to reset it themselves or give me one i will reset it. I'll explain that again since it might be too hard for you to comprehend, I can not see user passwords on my board.

The guy bought a thread to post on, he got what he paid for, you have to take it like a man, you try ads they either work for you or they don't, but no point trying to charge it back with paypal, making physical threats or threats to take down a server. This shows how silly he is.

Have a great night, I'm done.

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you keep talking about ads, but where are they you never put up an ad for me ever. But we will see who is right here. I called paypal they are going to open it again and told me i should have won and if they find you are scamming they will close your account. So lets hope for every one that i am winning so they can close your account for good. :)

Shit just got real :1orglaugh

Doesn't sounds like a scam. You got what you paid for, the post advertising on his forum. Maybe you should have checked how much traffic went through his site :2 cents:

I can offer you a banner link for $2 a month on a banner page if you like :thumbsup

Times must be tough :1orglaugh

you can't dispute digital goods! so tell us how you got around that? did you say it was tangible goods? keep in mind i know the whole story :)

Either you are dense, stupid or do a very good impersonation.

I sold you this ad deal. You even had an extra day of sticky, and don't tell me you never had the sticky because I am pasting your email below where you saw the sticky thread and was whining for it to be made a sticky for the whole month. I told you no, that would not happen because I did not sell you a month sticky. I am done with you and your baby tears. You should grow up, and move on.


Ad package you bught and were delivered.

"PACKAGE #1 - RESOURCES PLUS

1. One thread in "MAINCHAT" forum, to which you can add as many posts as you wish.
2. PLUS "FEATURED Listing" on "THE DIRECTORY" Free Links Directory For Adults Only - Home
3.We add your company to the appropriate category in the CONTACT FORM, when members or guests request information about a category, you will get a copy of the request to follow up with that person.
4. Larger sig upto 624 x 90
5. Larger Avatar upto 150x1500 instead of 100x100
6. 2 days sticky thread.
7. A dedicated support person to point out and contact you about relevant business threads.
8. Advertisers get a RED user name in 16 pts (Underlined) font to get more exposure when they make posts!"


You email asking for the sticky to be made a month.

"Hello Dave,



Seems we are making our first sale of your board soon, that is was the introduction post. I rekon that it needs to stay at the if want to keep this ball rolling. But he first need to order and pay before it is for sure.



Or you must think it goes better without having that thread sticky, which I think it will not. We need a lot of sales if people order the smallest package. 20 per month at least to make our money back.



Let me know what you think.



Regards,



Juan"



To which I replied



" Hi Juan

A campaign is not instant, if it was no one would buy ads for more than a few days, have patience my friend.

When I looked up your listing on Resources just a few minutes ago I see there have been 236 visits from just "Resources" to your site

Here it is Free Links Directory For Adults Only - Error

>>> NOTE: I have since removed his listing that's why now it does not show up. <<<

The package I sold you includes 2 days sticky, I left it for 3 days. If I leave a sticky up for 70 advertisers all the time it would be the first 2 pages of the board covered with stickies, which defeats the purpose.

Have patience my friend



peace."



For the last time, you got exactly what I sold you. Get a life.

Have you advertized with Mr Deiz yet on SignBucks?

About Us - SignBucksDaily

Another... satisfied...customer...

Have you tried Google Ads?

Lol
 

This. Is. Funny.

This package is not the one you offered me on chat, you would get us the lead personally through your form. Why else do you need our sales email. You would be sending in clients which you never did. We would never go for that bullshit package. It doesn't make it true is you later add a package you sell to other people.

But i done with this thread. Paypal will figure this out.