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J. Falcon 08-15-2015 03:07 PM

Difference between: Intelligent and Intellectual
 
Explain the difference in your own words.

Jel 08-15-2015 03:13 PM

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Joshua G 08-15-2015 03:15 PM

intelligence is innate, genetic. intellectual is earned through years of study & acquisition of a worldview. As such a person can be smart but not have a well rounded perspective of life.

to the contrary one can think they are an intellectual but lack intelligence, & it shows in their misperceptions on things, like when crockett tried to school dyna mo on electricity, & demonstrated he is clueless on what he is talking about.

:2 cents:

CaptainHowdy 08-15-2015 03:20 PM

Intelligent: Someone with full possesion of his capacity of intellection.

Intellectual: Someone with apparent full possesion of the intelligent's intellection.

NatalieK 08-15-2015 03:35 PM

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Jel 08-15-2015 03:42 PM

ok proper reply then, generally speaking I'd sum it up as:

intelligent = knowing you don't know everything

intellectual = thinking you know everything

aka123 08-15-2015 03:56 PM

Intelligent-> smart, or do you need more synonyms for this?
Intellectual-> someone devoting time and effort to grow his knowledge beyond practical matters and is also interested about philosophical issues. Quite snobbish word.

SilentKnight 08-15-2015 03:56 PM

Intelligent = smart
Intellectual = someone who is (sometimes) smarter than merely intelligent.

Relentless 08-15-2015 04:03 PM

Intelligent = Someone who knows that people capable of doing something matter more than people capable of thinking about something

Intellectual = Someone capable of thinking about something

J. Falcon 08-15-2015 04:23 PM

Hmm, interesting, some replies differ from each other more than I thought.

For me:

Inteligence has more to do with education, skill, technical training, etc.

An intellectual is more about reflection, meaning of concepts and ideologies, philosophy, etc.

Intelligent = doer
Intellectual = thinker

Vendzilla 08-15-2015 04:23 PM

imagination is more important that knowledge

SilentKnight 08-15-2015 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 20551698)
Hmm, interesting, some replies differ from each other more than I thought.

For me:

Inteligence has more to do with education, skill, technical training, etc.

An intellectual is more about reflection, meaning of concepts and ideologies, philosophy, etc.

Intelligent = doer
Intellectual = thinker

That's not to say the two are mutually exclusive, though.

Mutt 08-15-2015 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20551693)
Intelligent = Someone who knows that people capable of doing something matter more than people capable of thinking about something

Intellectual = Someone capable of thinking about something

well that's a pretty unintelligent summation, intellectual thought and development has as much impact on how we live as technology does. science developed from natural philosophy. philosophers and intellectuals are dangerous because they can have great influence on lesser intellectuals, those people who are 'capable of doing something', can do a lot of damage or good.

i think the greatest scientists in history have also been highly intellectual, though not as gifted in language, which is the intellectual's tool of his trade.

The world is becoming more filled up with pseudo-intellectuals thanks to the Internet. Reading and becoming familiar with the ideas of intellectuals doesn't make one an intellectual himself no more than somebody who loves music, studies it and can understand it is a musician.

Mutt 08-15-2015 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20551699)
imagination is more important that knowledge


"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination."


- Albert Einstein

oppoten 08-15-2015 11:23 PM

For my money...intelligent = is , intellectual = has /acquires.

People are born intelligent, but intellectual has a lot to do with the books you read, the choices you make and the people you surround yourself with. Like how some posters in this thread want to give off an air of authority, while others like me don't really care about such things :2 cents:

Relic 08-15-2015 11:33 PM

The intelligence of intellectualism.

MichaelP 08-15-2015 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aka123 (Post 20551689)
Intelligent-> smart, or do you need more synonyms for this?
Intellectual-> someone devoting time and effort to grow his knowledge beyond practical matters and is also interested about philosophical issues. Quite snobbish word.

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Relic 08-15-2015 11:39 PM

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Vendzilla 08-16-2015 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 20551810)

"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination."


- Albert Einstein

?Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.?


― Albert Einstein


It's one of my favorite quotes by anyone

Jel 08-16-2015 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oppoten (Post 20551816)
For my money...intelligent = is , intellectual = has /acquires.

People are born intelligent, but intellectual has a lot to do with the books you read, the choices you make and the people you surround yourself with. Like how some posters in this thread want to give off an air of authority, while others like me don't really care about such things :2 cents:

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editeur 08-16-2015 04:26 AM

...

- What's the difference between intelligent and intellectual?
- The difference is very signifficant, - replied he. - I can only exlain it with the help of an allegory. Do you know what does this word mean?
I nodded.
- When you was very young, one hundred thousand people lived in this town, who were getting their wage for kissing a disgisting red dragon in the ass. You likely don't remeber him already...
I shook my head. Once in my young days I actually saw the red dragon, but has already forgotten how it would look like, - so now I still remember just my own fear.
- Naturally, that one hundred thousand hated the dragon and dreamed about getting ruled by a green toad who was waging a war against the dragon. So, the deal was done with the toad, they poisoned the dragon with the lipstick which they got from CIA and they began to live their life the new way.
- But how is all that story related to the intell...
- Wait, - he raised the hand. They thought under the toad their will be doing the same thing as before as their job, but the wage will be a dozen times more. But actually, it turned out that instead of thousands of kissers, only three professionals are needed nowadays, who, working 8/5, would continuously do deep blowjob to the toad. And who of that hundred of thousands would be chosen as one of these three is going to be decided after open competition, where they would have to diplay not just their highest professionalism, but also the ability of doing an optimistic smile with the edges of the mouth as they are doing their job.
- To be honest, I've already lost the thread...
- And the point is this: those one hundred thousand were called "intelligents". And these 3 are "intellectuals".

...

(c) V. Pelevin

Jel 08-16-2015 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by editeur (Post 20551896)
...

- What's the difference between intelligent and intellectual?
- The difference is very signifficant, - replied he. - I can only exlain it with the help of an allegory. Do you know what does this word mean?
I nodded.
- When you was very young, one hundred thousand people lived in this town, who were getting their wage for kissing a disgisting red dragon in the ass. You likely don't remeber him already...
I shook my head. Once in my young days I actually saw the red dragon, but has already forgotten how it would look like, - so now I still remember just my own fear.
- Naturally, that one hundred thousand hated the dragon and dreamed about getting ruled by a green toad who was waging a war against the dragon. So, the deal was done with the toad, they poisoned the dragon with the lipstick which they got from CIA and they began to live their life the new way.
- But how is all that story related to the intell...
- Wait, - he raised the hand. They thought under the toad their will be doing the same thing as before as their job, but the wage will be a dozen times more. But actually, it turned out that instead of thousands of kissers, only three professionals are needed nowadays, who, working 8/5, would continuously do deep blowjob to the toad. And who of that hundred of thousands would be chosen as one of these three is going to be decided after open competition, where they would have to diplay not just their highest professionalism, but also the ability of doing an optimistic smile with the edges of the mouth as they are doing their job.
- To be honest, I've already lost the thread...
- And the point is this: those one hundred thousand were called "intelligents". And these 3 are "intellectuals".

...

(c) V. Pelevin


arock10 08-16-2015 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20551699)
imagination is more important that knowledge

Don't think Einstein quotes apply to you

j3rkules 08-16-2015 07:12 AM

Being intellectual is the inclination to employ only deductive reasoning - logic - to the farthest extent possible in order to reach your conclusions. Being intelligent - as far as it relates to intellectualism: "intelligence" in the broadest sense has other meanings as well - is being good at doing the same.

TheSquealer 08-16-2015 08:12 AM

in spite of what people tend to think, intelligence is not a fixed trait. You can raise and lower your IQ. More importantly, you can raise or lower your childs IQ. Further, we have a habit of confusing learned skills abilities which come after years and years of focused, dedicated and determined practice, with inordinate intelligence... when intelligence rarely plays a role at all.

just a punk 08-16-2015 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 20551664)
Explain the difference in your own words.

Absolutely different things. The one can be intelligent but stupid, and the one can be intellectual but rude and offensive.

PluginForage 08-16-2015 08:23 AM

Intelligent uses sound reasoning and deduction. Intellectual uses feelings and mostly unsound reasoning and concludes with the wrong deductions most of the time.

Mutt 08-16-2015 08:27 AM

You may be able to stretch your IQ the way somebody can build up muscles even if you weren't genetically gifted but genes are powerful.

I just heard a new study linking the genes for longevity and intelligence and when I heard it I thought of highly intelligent people through history and they do seem to live long - Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson well over 80, Einstein 75, Darwin about 75

There's more to intelligence than what IQ can measure, Einstein's IQ was high but not freakishly high.

Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson well over 80, Einstein 75, Darwin about 75

Mutt 08-16-2015 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PluginForage (Post 20552083)
Intelligent uses sound reasoning and deduction. Intellectual uses feelings and mostly unsound reasoning and concludes with the wrong deductions most of the time.

That's exactly the opposite of what I read from psychologists, 'intelligence' includes feelings/intuition, the intellectual is a slave to facts/logic

PluginForage 08-16-2015 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 20552090)
That's exactly the opposite of what I read from psychologists, 'intelligence' includes feelings/intuition, the intellectual is a slave to facts/logic

Let me guess you are an intellectual. :1orglaugh

Vendzilla 08-16-2015 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 20552001)
Don't think Einstein quotes apply to you

I have one that applies directly to you

?Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.?
― Albert Einstein

Mutt 08-16-2015 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PluginForage (Post 20552134)
Let me guess you are an intellectual. :1orglaugh

i'm more of a dilettante, interested in too many subjects to be real knowledgeable in any one of them, also more intuitive and creative that an intellectual

Serge Litehead 08-16-2015 09:51 AM

and thus it can be concluded that although dogs can be intelligent, they are not capable of being intellectual

J. Falcon 08-16-2015 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holograph (Post 20552171)
and thus it can be concluded that although dogs can be intelligent, they are not capable of being intellectual


That's an interesting conclusion and really breaks down the definition so that almost anyone can comprehend it.


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