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dyna mo 08-30-2015 07:53 AM

latest poll: stunning turn for Trump.
 
In May, when the Register last polled, 27 percent of likely Iowa GOP caucus-goers viewed Trump favorably while 63 percent regarded him unfavorably. In the new poll, which was released Saturday night, Trump's favorable number is at 61 percent and his unfavorable at 35 percent.

This Iowa poll shows just how amazing Donald Trump’s rise has been - The Washington Post


:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dyna mo 08-30-2015 07:58 AM

the epically funny part of that story/poll is it came from the fucking des moines register, who vowed to not cover Trump because they exclaimed he is a joke.

ahahahahahahahahahhahah.

Sly 08-30-2015 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20565150)
the epically funny part of that story/poll is it came from the fucking des moines register, who vowed to not cover Trump because they exclaimed he is a joke.

ahahahahahahahahahhahah.

I suppose you could give them credit for at least being honest about their bias. :winkwink:

j3rkules 08-30-2015 08:03 AM

Looks like doomsday for the liberal socialist movement.

pr0phet 08-30-2015 08:04 AM

And he now leads Latino voters according to Univision

dyna mo 08-30-2015 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20565151)
I suppose you could give them credit for at least being honest about their bias. :winkwink:

isn't it amazing? how brazen they are to try and dictate views and thoughts, especially re: a presidential candidate.

dyna mo 08-30-2015 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerkules (Post 20565153)
Looks like doomsday for the liberal socialist movement.

and hopefully for the entrenched status-quo politicking/polticians

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0phet (Post 20565154)
And he now leads Latino voters according to Univision

ay carumba!

mineistaken 08-30-2015 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0phet (Post 20565154)
And he now leads Latino voters according to Univision

Leads in terms of republicans? Or leads even over democrats? :winkwink::1orglaugh

Sly 08-30-2015 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0phet (Post 20565154)
And he now leads Latino voters according to Univision

Where did you see that?

SilentKnight 08-30-2015 08:28 AM

It feels like we're watching Gordon Gekko marching towards the Oval Office. :1orglaugh


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dyna mo 08-30-2015 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20565170)
Where did you see that?

i found this


BOOM – Univision Reluctantly Reports Donald Trump Leading With Latino Republicans…. | The Last Refuge

JuicyBunny 08-30-2015 08:40 AM

Salaries for workers will rise when US dumps illegal work force.
Chavez said it
Republican latinos are saying it just like the Donald.

AT this point the field against Trump aint worth a shit. Might as well give him a shot. Worse that can happen is four more years of nothing.

mineistaken 08-30-2015 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0phet (Post 20565154)
And he now leads Latino voters according to Univision

To be precise: leads latino republican voters.
And not that much of leads, but has the most people who see him favorable.
As in "do you see this candidate favorable" yes and no.
Not as in - which ONE of the republicans you vote for.

Having said that - it is still nice to hear that not all of them are sheep who ate up liberral media bullshit about Trump being "raciss"

Paul Markham 08-30-2015 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JuicyBunny (Post 20565189)
Salaries for workers will rise when US dumps illegal work force.
Chavez said it
Republican latinos are saying it just like the Donald.

AT this point the field against Trump aint worth a shit. Might as well give him a shot. Worse that can happen is four more years of nothing.

And prices will rise. Same as when he tries to balance trade. Saw him blaming Vet Health Care on incompetent managers. so he will have to hire better ones, who cost more.

I agree with his aims and agree that prices will rise. how many Americans will and how will it effect the poor, working class, lower middle class when the $ in their pocket buys less.

Barry-xlovecam 08-30-2015 09:24 AM

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...test-iowa-poll

http://assets.bwbx.io/images/i0YPViqNQ34s/v1/-1x-1.jpg


Poll are full of shit usually early in the game anyway ...

mineistaken 08-30-2015 09:32 AM

Ben carson ties at 32% amongst republicans. Here goes demtards' lies about "raciss republicans" :thumbsup:1orglaugh

Barry-xlovecam 08-30-2015 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20565217)
I agree with his aims and agree that prices will rise. how many Americans will and how will it effect the poor, working class, lower middle class when the $ in their pocket buys less.

Trump can start by leading by example:The Trump Collection mens wear line should all be American made. I am sure Trump can figure out how to break his contracts with the Chinese factories producing the products sold with his name. I say Donald Trump shits where he eats :1orglaugh

Poor people don't buy what Donald Trump sells but they do buy the crap that Walmart gets from China and sells cheap.

In the long shot that Trump is elected I will be selling Walmart and the other low-end retailers' stocks short :2 cents:

Barry-xlovecam 08-30-2015 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20565224)
Ben carson ties at 32% amongst republicans. Here goes demtards' lies about "raciss republicans" :thumbsup:1orglaugh

That is funny actually and just further proof that these polls are a joke. No offence to Dr. Carson.

dyna mo 08-30-2015 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20565217)
And prices will rise. Same as when he tries to balance trade. Saw him blaming Vet Health Care on incompetent managers. so he will have to hire better ones, who cost more.

I agree with his aims and agree that prices will rise. how many Americans will and how will it effect the poor, working class, lower middle class when the $ in their pocket buys less.

we're a long way away from inflation and full employment, both of which are necessary for your doomsday example.

dyna mo 08-30-2015 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20565217)
And prices will rise. Same as when he tries to balance trade. Saw him blaming Vet Health Care on incompetent managers. so he will have to hire better ones, who cost more.

I agree with his aims and agree that prices will rise. how many Americans will and how will it effect the poor, working class, lower middle class when the $ in their pocket buys less.

the other part of this that doesn't make sense is if wages rise, then people have more $ in their pockets to buy more, not less.

bronco67 08-30-2015 10:21 AM

It's just a barometer for the idiocy of the republican voting base. That is all.

And Trump actually is the best candidate they have. I listened to that Sarah Palin/ Donald Trump interview, and I like a couple of things he has to say about simplifying tax code, and getting the middle class out of the rut they're in. But that's only if I believe he believes what he's saying -- and I'm finding it hard to do that.

marcop 08-30-2015 10:27 AM

I had lunch with two Republican friends on Friday, and they both liked the same four candidates: Trump, Ben Carson, Carly Fiorina, and Ted Cruz.

CurrentlySober 08-30-2015 10:31 AM

I read the thread title as 'stunning turd' so as you can imagine, I'm somewhat disappointed :(

mineistaken 08-30-2015 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20565230)
That is funny actually and just further proof that these polls are a joke. No offence to Dr. Carson.

Yeah, because no way it can be true that republicans are not raciss. Better for demtards to believe that poll is a joke than that :thumbsup

dyna mo 08-30-2015 10:37 AM

The current polls have status quo career politicians quaking in their boots. They take these polls very seriously.

Sly 08-30-2015 10:39 AM

If Republicans don't vote for a black man, they are racist.

If Republicans do vote for a black man, it's not a real vote, because come on, they are racist.

Barry-xlovecam 08-30-2015 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20565246)
the other part of this that doesn't make sense is if wages rise, then people have more $ in their pockets to buy more, not less.

Without a productivity gain, if wages rise prices will have to rise too. Your selling price normally anticipates a profit (after taxes). Taxes are another big issue.

I am anticipating a national sales tax within the next 5 to 10 years to pay for social benefits, a national healthcare and toward deficit reduction. This might add 10% to 20% on the selling price of all goods. Combine that with wage demands and lower cost goods importation restrictions: the USA will become a much poorer nation with consumption taxes hitting the lower and middle classes hardest. Conversely, if we over tax capital gain to pay for social benefits, a national healthcare and toward deficit reduction: Investments and Venture Capital would be much harder to find.

We are between a rock and a hard spot and no candidate (so far) is addressing the real economic issues and a few are uttering total populist bullshit -- that I for one am not buying.

dyna mo 08-30-2015 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20565277)
Without a productivity gain, if wages rise prices will have to rise too. Your selling price normally anticipates a profit (after taxes). Taxes are another big issue.

I am anticipating a national sales tax within the next 5 to 10 years to pay for social benefits, a national healthcare and toward deficit reduction. This might add 10% to 20% on the selling price of all goods. Combine that with wage demands and lower cost goods importation restrictions: the USA will become a much poorer nation with consumption taxes hitting the lower and middle classes hardest. Conversely, if we over tax capital gain to pay for social benefits, a national healthcare and toward deficit reduction: Investments and Venture Capital would be much harder to find.

We are between a rock and a hard spot and no candidate (so far) is addressing the real economic issues and a few are uttering total populist bullshit -- that I for one am not buying.

sure, i get that, except for the national tax part. wages and prices are tied together, markham was trying to suggest that a wage increase would lead to a price increase, he then took that price increase out of context and claimed people wouldn't have more wages to afford the price increase.

Joshua G 08-30-2015 11:06 AM

its all over. the next president is decided.

& he will win 49 out of 50 states. california? forever lost to the mexican invasion.

:winkwink:

Barry-xlovecam 08-30-2015 11:17 AM

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I see the forest not the trees -- the writing is on the wall. The politicians will not talk taxes until after the election -- plan ahead -- even if I am wrong I will have a plan B ready at hand.

Robbie 08-30-2015 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20565294)
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...es-coming.html

I see the forest not the trees -- the writing is on the wall. The politicians will not talk taxes until after the election -- plan ahead -- even if I am wrong I will have a plan B ready at hand.

And don't hold your breath waiting for the media to actually ASK them about that tax during a debate.

They are too busy trying to play "Gotcha" with the candidates rather than ask real questions that affect the people.

dyna mo 08-30-2015 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20565294)
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...es-coming.html

I see the forest not the trees -- the writing is on the wall. The politicians will not talk taxes until after the election -- plan ahead -- even if I am wrong I will have a plan B ready at hand.

that's a VAT/GST tax.

L-Pink 08-30-2015 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20565301)
that's a VAT/GST tax.


With almost 20% of US income not being reported a national sales tax really is needed.

dyna mo 08-30-2015 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20565307)
With almost 20% of US income not being reported a national sales tax really is needed.

why not get ways and means in place to get that income tax instead of trying to fix that with a national sales tax?

more importantly, a national tax doesn't really have anything to do with markham's assertion that a wage increase leads to a price increase such that wage earners would be in a worse position than before.

L-Pink 08-30-2015 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20565312)
why not get ways and means in place to get that income tax instead of trying to fix that with a national sales tax?

more importantly, a national tax doesn't really have anything to do with markham's assertion that a wage increase leads to a price increase such that wage earners would be in a worse position than before.


The only way to really tax people working off the books is to tax what they spend. Since this is a growing part of our economy, some say 2 trillion, something needs done.

And a lot of these people receive benefits then earn unreported income, double-fucking taxpayers.

ilnjscb 08-30-2015 12:00 PM

Prediction - the new wave of attacks against Trump will be that white supremacists support him.

dyna mo 08-30-2015 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20565317)
Prediction - the new wave of attacks against Trump will be that white supremacists support him.

you mean like david duke? :winkwink:

dyna mo 08-30-2015 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20565316)
The only way to really tax people working off the books is to tax what they spend. Since this is a growing part of our economy, some say 2 trillion, something needs done.

And a lot of these people receive benefits then earn unreported income, double-fucking taxpayers.

wouldn't that new tax double fuck on the book tax payers then? they're paying their fair share of income tax + the sales tax to make up for the off the book guys?

L-Pink 08-30-2015 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20565321)
wouldn't that new tax double fuck on the book tax payers then? they're paying their fair share of income tax + the sales tax to make up for the off the book guys?

True. What the country needs is a simple 3-4 page tax code based on a fair percentage for personal band income with most loopholes/exemptions closed And a consumption tax based on type of purchases.

ilnjscb 08-30-2015 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20565320)
you mean like david duke? :winkwink:

him and others - they vote republican every election, but this time it will be made into a special thing. I think it will fail.

dyna mo 08-30-2015 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20565327)
True. What the country needs is a simple 3-4 page tax code based on a fair percentage for personal band income with most loopholes/exemptions closed And a consumption tax based on type of purchases.

now you're just dreaming! :winkwink:

but yeah, no, i wonder how many pages the current tax code is, i'd bet several thousand pages of baloney.

Robbie 08-30-2015 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20565328)
him and others - they vote republican every election, but this time it will be made into a special thing. I think it will fail.

David Duke ran for President in 1988 as a Democrat.
Then in 1992 as a Republican.

dyna mo 08-30-2015 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20565328)
him and others - they vote republican every election, but this time it will be made into a special thing. I think it will fail.

they're trying!

White nationalist David Duke praises Trump's candidacy - CNNPolitics.com

L-Pink 08-30-2015 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20565330)
now you're just dreaming! :winkwink:

but yeah, no, i wonder how many pages the current tax code is, i'd bet several thousand pages of baloney.


How about 74,000 pages.


http://i.imgur.com/ZWgAUoi.jpg

Sly 08-30-2015 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20565332)

LOL, not much of an endorsement. I just saw on his blog that he is freaking out about the media claiming it was an endorsement because it isn't.

Robbie 08-30-2015 12:21 PM

And just think....before 1913 there wasn't an income tax. It was unconstitutional.

So Congress simply put in the 16th amendment and made it constitutional. :(

Barry-xlovecam 08-30-2015 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20565316)
The only way to really tax people working off the books is to tax what they spend. Since this is a growing part of our economy, some say 2 trillion, something needs done.

And a lot of these people receive benefits then earn unreported income, double-fucking taxpayers.


That is probably the plan -- the taxman will always be there.

The real question is what will be taxed? If it is just consumer goods consumption such a tax would be regressive.

If real estate as well as other securities and intangibles are taxed the rate could maybe be 3% or 4%. The big time tax evaders (or sheltered speculators) are not using Obamaphones and EBT cards.

dyna mo 08-30-2015 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20565334)
How about 74,000 pages.


http://i.imgur.com/ZWgAUoi.jpg

Holy crap!

L-Pink 08-30-2015 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20565339)
The big time tax evaders (or sheltered speculators) are not using Obamaphones and EBT cards.


74,000 pages of tax code with 99% of them devoted to special interest exemptions and avoidance.

dyna mo 08-30-2015 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20565336)
LOL, not much of an endorsement. I just saw on his blog that he is freaking out about the media claiming it was an endorsement because it isn't.

How bout that media, doing a heck of a job! Making up the story so they can make a backhanded attack.

Not unlike a couple gfy libs.


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